pResident and repukes now attack Edward's "lack of military experience".

[TankLV]

Just reported on CNN.

No link.

Are these idiots for real?

Do they really want to go there?

AWOL bush* and his "I had better things to do" go fuck yourself dick?

Do they REALLY want to go there?

Boy I can't wait for this campaign.

Edwards will eat them alive.

[peekaloo]

1. lol.....common ground!

[keithyboy]

72. Let's see, Edwards was how old during Korean and Viet Nam wars?

Let's see, Cheney was how old during Korean and Viet Nam wars?

OK, nuff said.

[livetohike]

2. Another sign of desperation

Just open the door George and Dick. Open the door a little wider....that's it.

:nuke: The sound of their campaign imploding.

[PaDUer]

24. These people are truly insane..

it's time the media jump into this with the truth about * and his real TANG record! The media must have copies of the true records and it's time they use this as their "talking points" when the imposter brings this up. They should interview, lol, the jerk and produce the real facts and copies of his records on national tv. Both of them should be charged for what they've done plus, having the military records altered, they ALL should be jailed. These are sick, desperate thugs!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

3. pot say hello to kettle..they also attack Edwards as being a "rich guy"

i thought being a rich chickenhawk was the litmus test for entry into the bush* cabal?

[tlcandie]

49. Yes, the infamous quote....

"The haves and have mores. Some call you the elite, I call you my base." Loud applause and laughter immediately following this fact.

Do these people really think that if they fling all this crap that it won't stick to them?

[koopie57]

70. I would vote for these two men!!!!

It was a good choice Kerry made.

[aden_nak]

4. Ha ha, that's rich.

So George "AWOL" Bush and Dick "Five Motherfucking Deferments" Cheney are complaining about Edwards' lack of military experience? I honestly, truthfully believe that Goerge thinks he really is a fighter pilot now. $5 says he still has his flight suit at the White House. Sometimes I imagine him trying it on for fun in front of the mirror, and making machine gun noises with his lips.

Give me a break with this crap. . . it was bad enough when they were questioning Kerry's military record. And it came back to bite them in the ass, because the press, which had rediscovered its balls, then moved on to George's own record. Do they really want to compare John Edwards (who might not have been old enough to serve in Viet Nam - fact check?) to Dick "Other Priorities" Cheney? That'll be a blast!

[livetohike]

11. Edwards drew a high draft number

I heard that on the news last night. He could have been sent to VietNam but his number in the lottery was too high. He was probably a Sophomore in college then.

[Bandit]

39. When Kerry came back from Vietnam in 1969 Edwards was fifteen years old

I doubt he ever had a draft number. I seem to recall the Draft was done away with in 1972. I could be wrong about this though.

[livetohike]

46. John Edwards was born in June 1953 and was 18 years old

in 1971. One of my friends was drafted #1 in the 1971 draft.

[stevebreeze]

67. I was also born in 53....they did not draft at all the year I was eligible

they drafted only 19 year olds at the time of the lottery.
:kick:

[No Mandate Here.]

12. *s machine gun noises are from another orifice. <nt>

[TankLV]

19. He is as old as me - I was VERY elligible.

I also drew a high number.

[aden_nak]

23. Just looked him up, you're right.

It's gotta be the hair. ;)

[Lisa]

61. I think you're right -- Bush seems to think he really WAS in combat

Remember "I've been to war -- I've raised twins"?

I think he's so impressionable that if he's surrounded by props and all the trappings of his manufactured image, he begins to believe all the PR. Tom Toles had a great cartoon a while back, where Bush is telling people he was born on "my hardscrabble ranch in Texas". The poor deluded little man probably would rather embrace the fantasy of being a dirt-poor country boy who was a Vietnam War hero, because the reality is unpleasant.

[billybob537]

76. Well that would explain the dain bramadge.

[Philostopher]

5. That's rich, isn't it?

The only one of the four of them who has any real military experience is Kerry. Unless you count getting repeated deferments and refusing to piss test for your flight exam 'military experience.'

Oh, wait -- apparently, they do.

By their standards, my time as a dependent Air Force wife in the eighties would count as 'military experience' I guess. I came a hell of a lot closer to 'military experience' than Dastardly or Muttley, that's for damned sure. (edit) At least I ironed my then-husband's uniform every week, which is more than Dastardly Dick Cheney can say for himself.

[librechik]

6. Clark <sigh> n/t

ABB

[UpInArms]

7. gosh! with winning stradergees like these

I guess we should be :scared:

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=list&category=%20NEWS%3B%20Chickenhawks%3B%20Chickenhawk%20Headquarters

Chickenhawks:
Chickenhawk Headquarters

Name: George W. Bush (R-TX)
Born: 1946
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: You know when a guy walks away from a National Guard obligation during wartime and gets away with it, he must come from "a good family." Not that his daddy had anything to do with his getting a Guard slot in the first place - oh, no ...





Name: Richard "Dick" Cheney (R-WY)



Born: 1942
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Says he had "other priorities." You bet he had other priorities. Imagine how early in life you must begin scheming to get away with what this guy has. He was too busy thinking about Halliburton to go fight Charlie.





Name: I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby



Born: 1950±
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby is Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff. He’s had a string of no-doubt well- paying government jobs in State and Defense. He’s also practiced law. In fact, he was Marc Rich’s lawyer for years. Yes — the Marc Rich whose pardon from President Clinton was excoriated by so many high and mighty Republicans. Maybe if Scooter had been a better lawyer, his client wouldn’t have needed that pardon. Speaking of legal questions, “Scooter” is alleged by some to have traded energy stocks while helping his buddy Dick Cheney cook up a new energy policy in secret. He’s also suspected of having inserted the bogus “Niger yellowcake” reference into the President’s State of the Union address. As if all that weren’t enough, he’s also a top suspect in the outing of CIA operative Valeria Plame. Clearly “Scooter” is a ballsy kind of guy, so it’s a complete mystery to us why, when he graduated from Phillips Andover in 1968, he didn’t enlist in the Marines or go Airborne instead of going to Yale.





Name: Karl Rove



Born: 1950
Employer: Baal
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: This little cherub was born on Christmas Day, 1950. Karl “Bush’s Brain” Rove ran George W.’s campaign, right down to the tiny detail of deciding Bush was going to run. The hardest part was convincing a horde of Republican skeptics that it could be done.

He is said to have said of his boss, he’s "the kind of candidate and officeholder political hacks like me wait a lifetime to be associated with."

Now Karl’s Senior White House advisor. If he really is “Bush’s Brain,” and if the fondest wishes of former US Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV come true, one fine day Karl will be “frogmarched out of the White House in mandcuffs.”

Will history record that event as “Bush’s Lobotomy?”





Name: Donald "The Don" Rumsfeld




Born: 1932
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Korea
Notes: When the shooting started in Korea Rummy here was either 18, or about to turn 18. Not to worry for him, though — he spent the war at Princeton, wearing a ROTC uniform. Once the war was over he flew jets for the Navy for a few years. Defenders of Rumsfeld will say he’s no chickenhawk — he served, and it’s not his fault the war ended before he got his commission. To which others answer, “plenty of farmers and mechanics and kids just out of high school served. Anyone as full of whatever that stuffing in him is, could have tried out for a battlefield commission.”





Name: Paul Wolfowitz



Born: 1943
Employer: The U.S. Taxpayer
Conflict Avoided: Vietnam
Notes: Deputy Secretary for Defense - yet another Bush administration man in the Pentagon who has no idea what it's like to wear a uniform. He got a BA at Cornell in 1965. Maybe if we'd had a guy as bright as he thinks he is in Vietnam, it would have turned out differently.

[catzies]

64. You owe me a new monitor for Rove's employer - "Baal"

I just spit balsamic vinegar salad dressing all over it!

[Nordic65]

75. From the Thesaurus...

Baal (as in "Semitic deity") n. : any of numerous local fertility and nature deities worshipped by ancient Semitic peoples; the Hebrews considered Baal a false god

[RobertSeattle]

8. The great thing is that Edwards could spin this in a minute

"I might not have been in America's military, but I sure have fought for America..."

[kikiek]

9. Hahahaha..They are so arrogant they will do themselves in.

They are such elitists they grossly underestimate the general public.

[maxsolomon]

28. no one ever went broke

underestimating the intelligence of the american public.

or something.

'massachusets liberal & personal injury lawyer'. repeat ad infinitum.

[Norbert]

10. I am the same age John Edwards is

On the draft lottery my birthday was pulled @ #113 of 365. I was home free because they would not get that far down the list to draft me.

John Edwards stood better than a 75 percent likelyhood of being in the same position as I was. Face it, in 1971 if we didn't have to we likely would not have went to that hell hole Vietnam and if the repubs say otherwise they are liars.

Edwards has nothing to worry about especially since he never went AWOL like some people.

[underpants]

20. Edwards born June 10, 1953---18 in '71

http://edwards.senate.gov/about.html

[Journeyman]

33. In 1972, June 10 was number 178 in the lottery. . .

The 1972 draft determined the order in which men born in 1953 were called to report for induction into the military.


In 1970, June 10 was #76, and in 1971, June 10 was #226 in the lottery.


www.landscaper.net/draft70-72.htm

[underpants]

53. Wow! If I had been in the draft

'70-220
'71-117 :scared:
'72-363

[AP]

21. And how in the world would he have gotten out if he were drafted?

Working class kid from a rural town.

His daddy wasn't going to get him a place in the NG, that's for sure.

[Norbert]

27. 18, wow!

in that case here is the other half of the argument. He would hacve certainly received a college draft defermant. Hell by the time he was a junior in college he would have nothing to worry about. By that time Nixon ended the war to try to save his ass.

[AP]

32. I don't think they had college deferments when Edwards was 18.

I also think they ended the draft within less than 6 months of Edwards turning 18.

[TankLV]

43. They had deferments up to the time of Nixon's draft lottery - then it all

ended.

I pulled 265 in New York - I was free to stay out - thank god for being from a large populous state. That same number in a small state like Hawaii, you went even if you pulled 365.

I had a college buddy that pulled 2 - never saw anybody "older" cry like that before - never found out what happened to him.

The lottery ENDED any deferments except for serious medical conditions - like visual impairment - flat feet and you went.

[Art_from_Ark]

74. The draft was ended in March 1973

for what it's worth

[peterh]

41. I was subject to the 1970 lottery….

I sat down in front of the TV on July 1st in what turned out to be just a couple of minutes….my friggin’ number was 3….I joined the Navy a couple of weeks later…no regrets…had a great time and the GI Bill paid for College….

[CO Liberal]

56. I Was Subject to the '71 Lottery

The day before my birthday was 230 - the day after was 240.

My birthday (Nov 28) was number 31.

The only thing that kept me out of 'Nam was flunking my physical twice and receiving a 4-F classification.

[yellowcanine]

13. Har, Har, Har, Har..............Heh. That's the ticket guys. Let's talk

about the military experience of the various VP and presidential candidates. Democrats will talk that talk any time you want. Lets talk about trial lawyers also and the swiming pool drain that sucked the intestines out of a little girl - and she wasn't the first one it happened to! Who got justice for that little girl and her family? It wasn't Dick "Go eff yourself" Cheney!

[Shopaholic]

14. Can't believe they're even trying to go there

what with *'s highly-questionable "military" record! And Cheney never served either!

[DinahMoeHum]

15. Bring it on, 'Pukes. . .BTW, where are YOUR dog tags ???

Buncha candy-ass pussies.

:kick:

[Zech Marquis]

16. Kerry was serving in Vietnam, and Edwards was in the 10th grade?..

meanwhile, * had his fiar share of nose candy, and Crashcart said that "I had better things to do", got married to Lynn and got more than a few deferments form the draft...

[Guaranteed]

17. LOL...yeah, this one's easy. nt

[displacedtexan]

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[gandalf]

34. I would have posted the same and second that!

[rawstory]

22. LINK?

thanks.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

25. Bush: "I'm the simple candidate"

Bush at a Press Conference this morning in John Edwards' home state North Carolina, asked if Edwards' selection would require him to spend more time in the south:

"I'm not the schedulers. Ask the schedulers. I'm the simple candidate". (emphasis on "simple")

[SammyWinstonJack]

42. Oh he's simple alright!

As in SIMPLETON! :wtf: "I'm not the schedulers. Ask the schedulers." What an IDIOT!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

50. bush*: "i'm the simpleton candiate"

[GoddessOfGuinness]

54. Wow...For once he speaks the truth.

What an asshole.

[Piperay]

71. Whoa he actually told the truth,

that's a first. :wow:

[The Magistrate]

26. What Entertaining Nonsense!

"This chickenhawk squawk ain't worth the shrapnel in John Kerry's ass!"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[billybob537]

29. They have no possative message

What else can they do?
They can't say education.
They can't say health care.
They can't say economy.
They can't say Iraq.
They can't say honesty.
They can't say character.
They can't say safer.
All they have is lies and inuendos.

[Mace]

59. They will

probably resort to his accent.

[sleepyhead]

62. And his hair. n/t

[NNN0LHI]

30. They fell into the trap. The gloves come off now n/t

[mzmolly]

31. This outta be a gas. I'd love to see Edwards dawn a flight suit

so he could say "see, now I am as experienced as Bush in the military" LOL. :evilgrin:

[bluestateguy]

35. This is a joke right? This is from the Onion?

[2Design]

36. the deserter can't talk.......they are so stupid and the media is

stupid with them....

[Occulus]

37. This could be a bad thing.

Think, people. Bush* is absolutely certain he will not lose the job this November. He's directly addressing one of the topics that's mentioned in F-9/11; wasn't the physical a requirement while he was in TANG?

They really, really shouldn't be going there, and they are. Coupled with Bush's* certainty that he'll remain in office, well, I just don't like the sound of what they're doing.

It's as if they just don't care because they know there's something that'll change things an awful lot.

[bushisanidiot]

38. Oh, EXCUSE Me? Didn't Dick "Fuck Off" Cheney Hide from the draft???

yeah, he got his deferment..

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

45. Uncle Fester screwed his way out of Vietnam

and he's been screwing the country ever since.

I understand that four of his deferments were academic-related, but that his fifth one was for paternity.

[TryingToWarnYou]

47. Actually he got 5 of them, not just one.

[oly]

40. Repug base not solidified?

I gotta believe that this kind of BS is eaten primrily by the base repugs. I think Rove is still attempting to solidifiy it.

[kimchi]

57. Hi oly!

Welcome to DU!

[progressivebydesign]

44. I think voters are going to reject their hateful attacks..

I have this feeling, when things are really bad (as they are now), that people will start to turn off by the constant negativity. It's what helped Clinton.. he offered "hope". I think Edwards on the ticket gives us more of a positive, inspirational message. The GOP continues their sick attacks at their own peril, if there is an ounce of affection for Edwards, by the voters, they will start to feel a sense of defense for him... as the GOP attacks.

Sheesh.. they really are a hateful bunch.

[Der_Alte]

48. I think voters.....

Edwards is a decent man.

There is an old European saying, "If God lived on Earth, people would break His windows."

There are people who cannot live with decency; makes 'em uncomfortable.


;-)

[kimchi]

58. Welcome to Du, Der_Alte!

I agree, Edwards is a decent man.

[TryingToWarnYou]

51. Is there a link to this yet?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

52. Here's one:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5386702/

and my GD rebuttal:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1940918

[TryingToWarnYou]

60. Thanks, but Im looking for the link where they attack his lack of mil svs.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

55. What kind of experience do they think he needs?

Bachelor of AWOL?
Doctor of Deferment?

[AlFrankenFan]

63. Bush wouldn't know this, but it's like walkin' onto a mine field...

Ya Edwards didn't serve. Dick didn't, and Bush, pffft. AWOL. Absent without leave. That means, Bush dear, that you can't show off your military service just because it looks good - you didn't serve.

[0007]

65. Ha ha ha ha LOL!! Is it gonna get any better than this?

These loony toons are having a ball smoking the crack pipe.

[ArnoldLayne]

66. Stupid Repukes

just don't get it...dumbasses.:crazy:

[arikara]

68. This one's even funnier

than the chimp's comment about lack of experience. What a bunch of morans.

[Piperay]

69. BWAHAHAHAHA, They're fucking nuts

if I was them that is a subject I would want to stay far far away from. :wtf: Go ahead and bring it up you fucking morAns and then that gives our side the right to call you BOTH the little chickenshits that you are! :bounce:

[LiberalBushFan]

73. get real folks

You shouldn't attack Cheney just for not having avoiding the draft. You know very well that if he had fought there, we could have risked losing him, and then who would be here to get contracts for Halliburton?