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Fri Jul-09-04 08:29 PM
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Bush launches broadside against 'pessimist' Edwards |
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and Kerry drops the KL-Bomb on Bush. :-) http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=5634015
YORK (Reuters) - President Bush on Friday called Democrat John Edwards a pessimist on the economy and suggested his experience as a trial lawyer would tilt him toward policies that would hurt small businesses.
At a raucous rally in York, Pennsylvania, the president launched his most aggressive broadside against Edwards since John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, named the North Carolina senator as his running mate on Tuesday.
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But Kerry took a swipe at Bush, raising the issue of values to criticize Bush's past friendship with Kenneth Lay, the former chairman of Enron who was indicted this week on charges related to the energy company's descent into bankruptcy.
"Values are not just words," Kerry told a fundraiser in New York. "Values are putting the full force of the Justice Department on day one in an effort not to take three years and a few months before the election before you bring Ken Lay to justice."
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:40 PM
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1. What I would say to John and John is go after the jugular |
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You damn well know that they are going to.
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Old and In the Way
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:26 PM
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17. A federal prosecuter and former hi-profile trial lawyer......... |
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a pretty damn good team to take on the corrupt and criminal actions of the Republican Corporate Party - a very select group of war profiteers, Jesus hucksters, billion dollar energy scammers, and a compliant RW media corpse allowing it to happen.
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:42 PM
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never thought of it that way. We're talking leadership here are we not. John and John sure give me a good feeling.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:40 PM
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2. Ha I saw some of his speech |
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I don't know how anyone can vote for the guy.
He bumbles through everything, with BUshisms galore.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:40 PM
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that lying fucking shit bag so much.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:51 PM
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8. Awww, you're going easy, |
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bigbill!
The Repugs have redefined "desperate" this week.
I noticed today that jealousy over the family portraits of K&E compelled Dubya to pull Jenna out of whatever rock he'd hidden her under to make an appearance with him on the campaign trail.
Pathetic, really, because Jenna is now separated at birth from Courtney Love.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:55 PM
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10. desperate is the word |
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I think Jenna's ok, but she's not much of an asset for Bush.
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Sat Jul-10-04 12:10 AM
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37. Jenna and Courtney Love....that's good! |
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Yeah, Big Bill was being nice....and yes, the Repukes are getting desperate....I loved the press conference where AWOL was asked about Edwards and all the adjectives that have been used to describe him including "sexy" etc. and then asking AWOL about the differences between Edwards and FUCheney and the look on AWOL's face was a sour version of his usual smirk and his grunting answer of "He (FUCheney) could be President"....He meant to say "He is President".
If AWOL had any a)class b)charisma c) intelligence d) charm etc., he would have said something along the lines of "Well, Dick is a sexy guy... :)" or "Well, they needed to get someone as sexy as Dick and me"....
Yeah, they are scared and I thought the family gathering of everyone in the K&E clans were great - youthful, vibrant, happy, caring....
Versus - Drunk, Drunker and Drunkettes? And does FUCHeney's daughter really dare appear with Dad while the Gay Marriage debates go on?
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Sat Jul-10-04 12:01 AM
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That AWOL lieing sack of Sh*t Occupier of the Oval Office who can't even speak properly nauseates me daily....
Hi Big Bill! :hi:
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:46 PM
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4. John Edwards a "pessimist"? That dog won't hunt. |
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Edwards has the most optimistic outlook of any of the candidates on either ticket, imo. Now Cheney - there's a pessimist. He is always snarling about something.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:53 PM
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9. Shit, Cheney Has A Permanent Sneer |
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The Sneer and The Smirk Will put you out of work!
Damn, I'm a poet And didn't know it!
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:46 PM
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Damn, your a poet And didn't know it!
Got kicked in the ass and now you know it!
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:47 PM
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23. Sounds like a damn good place to start. |
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:45 PM
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20. cheney is white trash. |
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Fri Jul-09-04 11:21 PM
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33. Cheney is a sewer mouth. |
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He's probably pissed off cause he doesn't have the flexibility to go fuck himself. He has had his head up his ass a time or two however.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:49 PM
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:50 PM
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Edwards a PESSIMIST??! HA! I think not.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:51 PM
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7. It is interesting that Bush is slamming Edwards. |
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It is usually the VP candidate that plays that role. Shows how worried they are - but it does not show the best side of Bush. An incumbent president should be a little above the fray.
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:00 PM
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Is Cheney really that unpopular that he cannot campaign "publicly"
Cheney only campaigns to select groups, and only some of those speeches are taped/televised. I wonder if BC04 polling shows that Cheney is too unpopular to take the front seat on the attacks (apparently their polling shows he is so unpopular that Bush and Cheney cannot be seen together).
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:21 PM
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15. Nah, They Can't Take The Risk |
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That a heckler might show up at a campaign stop, and Cheney would tell THEM to "go fuck themselves."
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Fri Jul-09-04 10:13 PM
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28. What's he gonna stand on, his records?? |
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:56 PM
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11. Big Oil Bush's credibility needs to be pounded into the ground- |
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Using the same logic they use about Edwards being a trial lawyer, by the same token Bush's background as an oilman tilts Bush in favor of policies maintaining high oil prices, taking over Iraq and making shady deals with other countries to get control of their oil.
We had to laugh out loud with the audacity of the Bush ad that ran on TV today here in N.C that says if we elect Kerry, within 100 days he will raise our taxes by 900 billion dollars. I couldn't believe my ears- I had my back turned from the T.V. and when I looked back at the ad, sure enough in huge numbers it said 900 Billion dollars! If a majority of the voters are stupid enough to believe Bush with his unrelenting lies and distortions, there is no hope for us.
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Fri Jul-09-04 08:58 PM
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"and suggested his experience as a trial lawyer would tilt him toward policies that would hurt small businesses."
As opposed to B*sh sitting in the velvet lined pockets of big corporations!
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:23 PM
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Bush being heavily tilted towards policies that hurt employees...workers...
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:04 PM
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A pessimist? Mr. Carolina Sunshine?
That's going over like a lead balloon.
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:30 PM
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18. Jaysus, are they scared of Edwards or what ... |
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.... you can almost smell the fear coming off them.
I heard before the primaries that Edwards was the candidate they feared the most but WOW, this is amazing ....
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:45 PM
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21. Yeah. Trying anything hoping something sticks. |
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I think this was setup with all that McCain bullshit, so I don't know that it's specifically about Edwards, but I can see why he would freak them out.
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:59 PM
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has been substantially changed from the earlier stumps and substantially weakened, especially on the war. He's in trouble. Thank God. I'm ordering T-shirts tonight and I'm going to wear them everywhere. I think it should be the new hip thing to wear anti-Bush, pro-Kerry T-shirts everywhere, just like after 9/11 it was hip to wear the flag. Don't you think so?
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Fri Jul-09-04 10:13 PM
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29. Works for me. Bush toilet paper, single sheet and scratchy, |
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with alternating pictures of Bush and Cheney on each sheet. :thumbsup:
Supreme court toilet paper with the felonious five would be good too ...
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:59 PM
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primary exit polls showed that Kerry and Edwards supporters alike agreed that Edwards won votes based on a particularly positive campaign. that's ridiculous to say he or Kerry are pessimists and America knows Dubya is wrong.
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Fri Jul-09-04 09:59 PM
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Yesterday, I wet to the Kerry/Edwards event in Ft Lauderdale. Their speeches were all about optimism and hope. Right then I imagined Bush saying something like "Hey, that's my line!" - especially after that "wild-eyed" GOP ad.
Something about all of this reminds me of Clinton's references to "A place called Hope". We had it then.
With Bush in office, there's nothing but despair.
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Fri Jul-09-04 10:14 PM
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like a nightmare since he has been in office. :mad:
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Fri Jul-09-04 10:13 PM
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27. Trial lawyers don't sue small businesses... |
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Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 10:16 PM by teryang
They sue big businesses, the bigger the better. Anyone who doesn't know this, doesn't know anything about the tort business.
Bushco is the pessimist, with the otherworldly messianic bullshit to compensate for the vale of tears world he and his rich buddies have created. Oh the fear, the terror, the threats, the sacrifices we heard about every day ad nauseum.
There he is painting the ultimate success story as a pessimist. A spoiled dry drunk that had everything given to him and wrecked it, calling a self made super talented Edwards who went from the bottom to the top, a pessimist.
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Fri Jul-09-04 10:20 PM
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31. When Chimp first "became" president he was constantly |
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badmouthing the economy. An economy that was much better than this one.
Does politics know memory? :freak:
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Fri Jul-09-04 10:50 PM
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32. And how pessimistic is The Prince of Darkness himself, Dick Cheney? |
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Every once in a while Cheney crawls out of his hole to remind us that the world is a dark and horrible place, filled with people who want to kill you. Humans are evil, and we must slaughter them before they slaughter us. An all-consuming hellfire will destroy us all. Thank you, and make the check out to bush/cheney 04.
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Fri Jul-09-04 11:46 PM
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34. Did anyone see the Cheney "rally" reports in the NYTimes? |
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So funny. He is such a wet blanket. Mentioned an episode about him starting a talk to the expectant masses with something rousing like "Uh, this is the first time we've used the speakers on top of the bus."
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Sat Jul-10-04 01:18 AM
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38. WTF??? Edwards is terminally perky if you ask me |
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Totally avoided negative campaigning the whole season.
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Sat Jul-10-04 03:07 AM
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39. BushCo's normal strategy is to turn a positive to a negative |
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With Gore it was his integrity, with Kerry it's his military record.
BushCo finds a candidate's greatest strength, and makes an outlandish claim to turn it into a weakness, so that candidate can't use that issue without drawing up the negative image. It's a classic bully move.
Edwards is pegged by the media as optimistic and as a man of humble beginnings, so BushCo is painting him as a multi-millionaire pessimist trial lawyer out of touch with the people.
The campaign has not begun yet. The smears and slanders will get more outrageous. Kerry so far seems to understand what Bush will do, but even so, it's easy to underestimate him. Bush is slimy as hell, and will spin a lie better than he can tell the truth.
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Sat Jul-10-04 03:38 AM
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40. This Is Like Saying, "Dick Cheney Is All Sweetness and Light and Bunnies" |
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IOW, it just does not fly. At all. No one is going to buy it.
DTH
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Sat Jul-10-04 03:53 AM
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41. "Edwards launches broadside against "asshole Bush" |
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John Edwards suggested Pres. Bushes experience against middle America would tilt him towards policies that would hurt "small America or Middle America."
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Sat Jul-10-04 04:05 AM
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42. It's perfect....the 'KL Bomb'... Wooohooo wtg JFK! n/t |
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