Kerry and Edwards Accuse Bush of Dishonesty

[Blackaxe]

ALBUQUERQUE, July 10 -- President Bush has governed the nation in dishonest fashion, trampling American values on every single issue except fighting terrorism and leaving voters "clamoring for restoration of credibility and trust in the White House again," John F. Kerry and John Edwards told The Washington Post.

"The value of truth is one of the most central values in America and this administration has violated" it, Kerry said in an interview aboard his campaign plane on Friday. "Their values system is distorted and not based on truth."

The Democratic nominee and his running mate said it was that kind of anger toward the president that prompted entertainers at Thursday's Democratic fundraising concert in New York to attack Bush as a "cheap thug" and killer.

"Obviously some performers in my judgment and John's stepped over a line neither of us believes appropriate, but we can't control that," said Kerry. "On the other hand, we understand the anger, we understand the frustration."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41190-2004Jul10.html

[VolcanoJen]

1. Great article!

I just duped your post, Blackaxe... here's what I wrote in my thread:

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41190-2004Jul10.html

Fantastic interview, and a great format for Kerry and Edwards to come out swinging against the administration.

Some highlights; but please be sure to read the whole thing!

Don't get suckered into the how-many-years-you've-been-in-one-job" debate, said Kerry. "You've got people in who have been in one job 30 years of what you call experience and they have done nothing, they don't stand for anything and they don't know how to fight."

The measure of a leader, he said, is a "person's character, a person's values, a person's abilities and political skills and ability to work with other people and bring people to a cause." Kerry called this the "character of toughness."



Edwards suggested Bush's career is not reflective of American values either.

"George Bush and others can say whatever they want now about what their values are, but what have they spent their life doing? Have they shown in their life experience, not just in the time they've been in politics, but in their life experience, that they have the values that Americans looked up to and respected," Edwards said. "It's just difficult for me to imagine anybody in my little hometown in rural North Carolina looking up to and respecting someone more than John Kerry."

[Swamp Rat]

2. I wish folks with access the 'media' would just say, "Bush is a LIAR!"

How come democrats, progressives, and any contrarians have a taboo from saying 'liar'? How come ONLY repuglicans and fundies can call everyone else a liar but we cannot?

Well, I don't follow this unwritten rule. I tell people to their faces that Bush is a liar, and when they LIE by bringing up a bunch of BS in support of Dimson, I call them liars too. "People" are angry with me lately... hee hee!

[VolcanoJen]

4. One of my best friends openly refers to Bush as "The AntiChrist."

People get so pissed at him when he does this, and he then he calmly explains the cold chill that ran through his bones the very first time he saw Bush on television, in 1999, just as his candidacy was heating up.

He never, ever backs down from calling a spade a spade. Sometimes, I wish I possessed his chutzpah. :D

[Swamp Rat]

5. Bush IS the Anti-Christ!

Here's the proof:

http://www.geocities.com/trebor_92627/Bush.htm

[Chicago Democrat]

8. If Bush is the Anti-christ Does that mean John Kerry is the Messiah?

God that would suck. I want the messiah to be cooler I'm sorry.

[Swamp Rat]

13. At one time I thought your avatar might be the Messiah. "School is HELL!"

I'll accept Kerry as the "Lazarus of Democracy," if he actually does anything about the shit we've been through.

[Chicago Democrat]

15. Lazarus! That's funny! Rich guy who was dead then came back to life!!

:)

Bible jokes hehehehehe

[Swamp Rat]

17. Tons of comedic material out there in MANY "Bibles" for all us satirists.

Mel Brooks knows this well.

[lazarus]

24. I thought

I was the lazarus of democracy.

:pout:

[AirAmFan]

20. IMO, most voters would rather hear, "We will tell you the TRUTH!" than hear

"So and so is a liar". Voting is about the FUTURE, so expect to hear Kerry and Edwards promise over and over to "tell the truth", "face the facts", "deal with reality", etc.

On the other hand, while Kerry and Edwards are taking the "high road", MoveOn.org, Democratic Representatives in safe seats, and the DNC can reveal Dubya for the pathological liear he is.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

3. Bush & Cheney 2004: "NO More Years"

[snippy]

6. Bush's lying should be a huge issue in the campaign.

He lies about anything and everything, anywhere and everywhere, to anyone and everyone. Publicizing his compulsive and incessant lies will cause people to become fed up with his lying. People who are willing to give him a pass about his lies to justify the invasion of Iraq may reach a point where they have had enough of his lies about something else.

Ridiculing Bush for his compulsive and incessant lying needs to become common. I send this to different people in the media on a semi-regular basis.


The entire world knows that Bush is the most compulsive and incessant liar in the history of American politics.

There is no subject so somber, serious, or shallow that Bush will not lie about it. The only other option is not to lie. And that apparently is something Bush can not do.

For example:

Bush says he fell off his bicycle because of the heavy rains and he watched on television as the first plane hit the first WTC tower on 9/11 and John McCain has an illegitimate Negro daughter and Bush would veto McCain-Feingold and the yawning boy was not there and was not yawning and besides he was standing some place else and Richard Clarke had complete access to Bush and Rice which proves that Clarke was out of the loop which is Clinton's fault but the White House revealed that Clarke briefed the press on background about Bush fighting terrorism which means that unnamed White House sources may not be identified even when Bush wants to even if they criminally reveal the identity of a covert CIA employee and everyone except Bush himself knows where he was during his National Guard service but it was Clinton's fault that Bush did not show up for duty which was after Bush volunteered to go to Viet Nam but before he was no longer required to take a flight physical and about the same time that God ordered him to smite Saddam because the 70 lines of embryonic stem cells and more arsenic in the water and more mercury in the air prove that republican science is better than sound science and the Bush administration did not illegally conspire to illegally reveal the identity of a covert CIA operative which resulted in 2 million new jobs being created because democrats support terrorism and are not good Americans just as the Jews were not good Germans which is why Bush said he would veto the creation of both the Department of Homeland Security and the 9/11 Commission but now claims credit for their creation and the White House is cooperating with the 9/11 Commission which is why the White House withheld documents and called the republicans on the Commission before Clarke testified and why the White House is not coordinating the attacks on the integrity and bipartisanship of the Commission and why Bush and Cheney negotiated with the Commission that the two of them would testfy one time only but never again since the dental xrays prove that Bush spoke with the CIA director everyday and did not ignore either the repeated warnings of the dangers of al Qaeda and Osama or the August 2001 intelligence briefing specifically warning of the upcoming 9/11 attacks because the United States is a nation with a mission and that mission is to bring freedom to every single person in the world which will cut the deficit in half if you do not count those parts of the deficit which will increase under Bush which is Clinton's fault but the boxes from China were labeled "Made in USA" which resulted in 2.6 million new jobs being created even though the $400 billion decorative Medicare prescription drug turkey was not labeled $550 billion and was passed without bribery or criminal deception and was not criminally promoted by the Bush administration using taxpayers' money for propaganda purposes which proves that government spending under Bush has gone down if you do not count the increased government spending under Bush which is Clinton's fault just as acts of terrorism have decreased since 9/11 if you do not count the increase in the number of acts of terrorism and Bush's plane to Baghdad was spotted because before Saddam bought the uranium and became an "urgent" but not an imminent threat which is Clinton's fault Bush had no plans on his desk to invade Iraq since the invasion was not planned before Bush took office even though it was the subject of his first national security council meeting in February 2001 and in December 2001 when plans for the invasion were being finalized Bush said he was focused on the military operations in Afghanistan since the Carrier Costume Party was too far offshore for the Navy to make a large enough "Mission Accomplished" banner to describe the WMD we have found in Iraq some of which Saddam was giving to Osama for following Saddam's plans and using Iraqi hijackers on 9/11 which is Clinton's fault but everyone who pays income taxes got a tax cut which created 3 million new jobs and allowed Iraqi oil revenue to pay for the cost of the reconstruction of Iraq after the invasion by a small number of troops who would be greeted with floral program related activities except for the dead and wounded troops who are being brought home secretly which is Clinton's fault since Bush is the one who hugs the mothers and the widows and the wives and the kids and since Bush does not watch television news he did not know about the republican torture pranks occurring in Iraq until he saw the pictures while watching television news and that is why Bush who will use the jawbone of an ass to force OPEC to open the spigots and who is responsible for good economic numbers but not bad economic numbers which are Clinton's fault wrote the poem that he did not write blaming Laura for dropping the dog.

Ridiculing Bush for his compulsive and incessant lying needs to become common.

FIRE THE LIAR

[classof56]

9. But--but...W says he's saved,

and thus God forgives him for all his lies, deceptions and evil ways. Unless--wait a minute now--could he be lying about being saved? Nah! He wouldn't do that...would he???

Thanks, Snippy, for this concise list of his blatant lies. There are many more, going back decades, I know, but for now my brain's on overload. Look forward to your next installment!

Tired Old Cynic

[cliss]

19. Wow, snippy.

That's some post. I detect lots of passion there. Amd I agree 100%.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

7. "...except fighting terrorism..."

???

:shrug:

[Cocoa]

10. I get it

they're on the same side as Bush on terror, but on nothing else.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

12. But Chimp is creating terrorism, not stopping it.

Edwards and Kerry agree with this? :freak:

I'm confused as to why they're giving Chimp a pass on his worst attribute.

[maddezmom]

11. After Senate report on Iraq, Kerry says Bush misled America, abused power

Another great headline and story;
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040711/ts_alt_afp/us_vote_iraq&e=1&ncid=696

[sandraj]

14. From that article...

"Kerry made clear he believed the president, rather that the intelligence community or the Pentagon (news - web sites), were ultimately responsible for what was happening in his administration.

"He certainly misled America about nuclear involvement," said the Massachusetts senator, commenting on Bush's statement about alleged attempts by Iraqi president Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) to reconstitute Iraq's nuclear weapons program.

"And he misled America about the types of weapons that were there, and he misled America about how he would go about using the authority he was given," Kerry continued..."

[cliss]

16. Wow. Love the title of the article,

Kerry & Edwards. Isn't it awesome? Now Bush has 2 people to contend with. Before, it was just Kerry, carrying the torch. Now we've got Edwards and it's just lovely.

[kayell]

18. Excellent response to the Friday night attack from the * managed networks

Nice to know that these two won't fold with the usual (lately) "we're so sorry for disturbing your holy republicaness" crap as some (Daschle comes to mind)have done. I like those who represent me to have spines. Go get 'em guys! :bounce:


Added: This remark - "Obviously some performers in my judgment and John's stepped over a line neither of us believes appropriate, but we can't control that," said Kerry. is great, because it also reminds people of someone who could have controlled their own speech and chose not to.

[bobthedrummer]

21. Dennis Kucinich simply called Bush a "liar"

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

[eridani]

27. Actually, he said that the war was based on lies

He bends over backwards not to get personal on anyone, even his most amoral opponents.

[Mechatanketra]

22. They're taking (slightly) the wrong tack.

The important thing about Bush's dishonesty is not that it betrays a lack of values. That's bad, but it's not what really counts.

The important thing is that it betrays a lack of solutions. WHATEVER it is about this country's direction that bugs you, Bush isn't going to fix it. Fixing problems isn't his strategy -- it's not what he does. He hides problems, lies about them, sweeps them under the carpet and hopes you don't notice the conspicuous lump left there.

We can compromise with the right here: maybe Bush isn't going to be four more years of Hitler ... but four more years of Beetle Bailey as commander-in-chief isn't that much better, is it?

[Generator]

23. Well I think this is kick ass

To say: "Their values system is distorted and not based on truth."

True, it's pretty and it's not saying Shrubscum & Co are the LIARS that they are, but I think it is unwise for Kerry & Co to say it that way.

And it's still July, I expect it to ramp up.

[dusty64]

25. Gee, ya think!

Dishonesty is only the TIP of the iceberg.

[colonel odis]

26. calling bush a "liar" is like calling water "wet." n/t