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Liberalboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:26 PM
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Massachusetts may make health care a legal right
First Gay marriage

Now this...

Why oh why did I move from my birthstate!
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http://www.comcast.net/News/DOMESTIC//XML/1110_AP_Online_Regional___National__US_/ce7a9f55-5805-4536-bd17-6066226ca3cc.html

BOSTON - Lawmakers on Wednesday took a step toward making Massachusetts the first state to make comprehensive and affordable health care a constitutionally protected right.

The proposed amendment to the state's constitution was approved during a joint session of the House and Senate. If approved a second time during the 2005-2006 legislative session, the question will go before voters in 2006.

The amendment states that "it shall be the obligation and duty of the Legislature and executive officials ... to enact and implement such laws as will ensure that no Massachusetts resident lack comprehensive, affordable and equitably financed health insurance coverage for all medically necessary preventive, acute and chronic health care and mental health care services, prescription drugs and devices."

"We're trying to provide justice in health care so that every single citizen has a health care plan," said Sen. Steven Tolman, D-Boston.

The proposed amendment was initiated when more than 70,000 registered voters signed a petition. As a result, only 51 of the 200 state representatives and senators need support the proposal for it to go before voters.

The vote Wednesday was overwhelming, with lawmakers approving it 153-41.

Supporters argue that the cost of providing universal coverage through a variety of public and private means could be made up by eliminating billions of dollars in unnecessary costs currently built into the state's health care system.

The National Federation for Independent Business said the price tag of providing health care to all citizens would be immense.


Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:32 PM
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1. As an uninsured MA citizen I say " WOOOOOOO HOOOOO"
:wow: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :wow: :wow: :bounce: :bounce:


Hmmm.....( I wonder how many anti-government freeper who suddenly find themselves sick will move to Massachusetts to take advantage of LIBERAL Generosity.)
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:33 PM
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2. how can they have it just in Massachusetts?
then everyone who wants free health care would move there but they might not pay enough into the system to keep it solvent. hmm...it would be interesting to observe.
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Amarant Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 03:44 AM
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5. I think it will work out just fine
hopefully we will do well nationally in novemember as well - if we do maybe something federal can be done to this effect. I suspect we will at least take back the senate.
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demoman123 Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:25 PM
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8. It is compensation for living in Massachusetts
But they would have to give me a lot more than that to move back there. :)
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 06:24 PM
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14. Hopefully they can't.
I'm sure if one state does it other people from other states will start to demand the same rights.

What I can't wait to see is when the opposition starts running ads trying to convince the people to vote against their own right to health care.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 08:38 PM
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3. WOW WOW WOW!!!
When are "State's Rights" like that coming to Maryland. It needs to be nationwide!!!!


:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :)
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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 02:38 AM
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4. This is great news!
:kick:
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 04:36 PM
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6. Whoa.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:08 PM
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7. excellent!
The National Federation for Independent Business said the price tag of providing health care to all citizens would be immense.


Nuh-uh! The price of continuing to cater to the desires of the National Federation for Independent Business is what's so friggin immense -- in both money and suffering.


Mary
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:38 PM
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10. "Immense" is less than "humongous" ...
... which is what we're paying now. Canada shows very clearly that Universal Health Care is far, far less costly than the broken profit-on-misery-and-death system we have in the US.
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 05:28 PM
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9. God I hope this goes somewhere
other than in the toilet. My asshole insurance company just raised my rates again 6 months after the last increase. With no notification.. i have automatic withdrawl ffrom my checking, and I noticed that this month they took an extra 30 out... I hate those fuckers. One of the downsides of being self employed.
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FemaleDemfromMass Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 06:55 PM
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11. Excellent news,
thanks for posting this!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 07:10 PM
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12. Maybe the Idea will rub off on it's neighboring states and
then rub off on their neighboring states. Soon we will ALL have Health Insurance! Fat chance!
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evworldeditor Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 09:06 PM
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13. A Constitutional Amendment Worth Talking About...
Instead the party-in-power wants to make an issue of something that effects what percentage of the population? Anyone know how many lesbians and gays in this country want to get married compared to number of people without healthcare or in danger of losing it, not to mention those saddled with high Cobra payments (boy, there's a name)?

What 1 percent, 2 percent vs. 20 percent or more?

I decided to do a little 'Net search and came up with the following interesting bits of info.

On the subject of America's ailing health care system, the Washington Post's David Broder wrote a recent column entitled "Our Broken Health Care System"

Referring to Bill (made-a-fortune-in-for-profit-hospitals) Frisk, Broder writes, "He spelled out some of the scary statistics behind those generalizations. Expense? The United States spends almost 15 percent of its income on health care, far more than other advanced countries. That's about $5,540 a year for every man, woman and child.

"Costs are rising four times as fast as wages. One informed estimate places the cost of employer-sponsored health care coverage for the average family at $14,500 in 2006, just two years from now.

"The Census Bureau found last year that almost 44 million Americans had gone without health insurance for the previous year. That number has been increasing by roughly 2 million a year. Families USA, a consumer group, says that almost 82 million people, one out of three below age 65, were uninsured at some point during 2002-03, most of them for at least nine months."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50500-2004Jul14.html

Okay, let's take the 44 million number and divide that by the current US population of 293 million. 15% of population was without some form of health care coverage last year. Take the 82 million number and it nearly doubles to 28%.

And the number of gay couples in the US clamoring for marriage rights? Well, I came across this interesting article on gay marriage in The Netherlands. Assuming the statistics apply to the homosexual population in North America, then those interested in marriage represents only one-third of one percent.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/livestro200406290924.asp

Health care reform impacting 100% of Americans indirectly and as many as 28% directly would seem a significantly more important issue to be talking about and working towards than one that impacts 0.33 percent of the population. This isn't to say that gay couples shouldn't be entitled to the same legal rights as heterosexual couples, but on the list of national priorities, it would appear to me to be one that is fairly low down on the list, and should more rightly be left to the States to resolve, which is exactly what Dick Cheney argued for in the 2000 VP debates with Joe Lieberman (this courtesy of the John Stewart show's "Zen Moment" tonight).

Comments and criticisms welcome.





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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 11:41 PM
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15. Ya wanna live in one a them liberal states with universal health care ...

... or would ya rather live in Bushworld?
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