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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:17 AM Original message |
Housing Starts Tumble Unexpectedly |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. Unexpectedly for WHO? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. My response as well. This was totally expected. |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Housing starts are not a lagging indicator. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Please try to distinguish between the 'market' and the 'economy.' |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Anecdotal Evidence... |
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jwcomer (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
34. for whom |
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Misinformed01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Beautiful |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. As in "for whom the bell tolls." |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 12:42 AM Response to Reply #55 |
70. ...loudly. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. When housing starts tumble in good weather.. it's a BAD thing. |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It's a seasonally adjusted number. |
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stevebreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Who? the same people who didn't see the market as overpriced |
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Sub Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. Everything will be OK |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. And interest rates haven't even started upwards! |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. ooops |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. I've noticed houses in my area sitting on the market a long, long time... |
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Jeff in Cincinnati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. Can't buy a house on the Minimum Wage! |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Ahhh...But you can load up on debt. That's the American Dream. |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. When have you ever been able to? |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Here's 9 in Odessa, Texas |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. We have a name for homes like that: |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Thanks. I paid $32,000 for my home ten years ago here and |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. LOL. |
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pbeal2 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. No offense but price reflects demand |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Odessa hasn't had significant ag since 1920s. |
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Career Prole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #37 |
69. Don't waste your time on Abilene... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. And we have names for posters like yourself,.... |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
59. Definition.... |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. The home that is $44,500 would sell for $140,000 |
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FrankBooth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. It would sell for $350,000 -$400,000 in my neighborhood |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Like, wow! I thought Boston was expensive. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 01:26 AM Response to Reply #42 |
72. A 3br/2ba 25-yr-old tract house |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Perfectly respectable little homes |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
75. OMG! |
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Jeff in Cincinnati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. About Thirty-Five Years Ago |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. And with one full-time M.W. job now producing $10,712 annually . . . |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. 35 years ago the minimum wage was $1.45/hr |
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Jeff in Cincinnati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. $1.60/hr in 1968 |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Housing prices don't move with income levels |
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Jeff in Cincinnati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. As much as real buying power of the MW has lagged... |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I've had similar problems. |
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Jeff in Cincinnati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Sticker Shock |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Maybe we can swap houses when the time comes? |
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Jeff in Cincinnati (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
76. LOL! |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Ahh, but you don't understand..... |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. As a banker I can tell you... |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Good question Frodo, but I have to ask you... |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Here's your answer... "they aren't" |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. The answer is not "banks give poor service" |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. LOL. The "big bad bank" |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 07:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. I see, Frodo |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 08:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Lol! |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. I do find it funny that you doubt my ability to judge the "cost of doing b |
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Avalon Sparks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 01:09 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. I totally agree with you Louis-t~ |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. "had a wonderful realtor that I would have gladly paid a 10% commission" |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. "I bought my last home without a realtor and saved over $5,000." |
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CheshireCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
33. 20 years ago in rural SC |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. In 1965 |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
8. How about that Bush recovery!! |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. Calm down everyone. |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. It's more likely the quick bump up in rates ..... |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
31. How Does This Look When Combined... |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. It all fits fine - except for the "maggots" line |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
80. I hate maggots too |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
12. Bubbles! Tiny Bubbles! |
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fishnfla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
17. i believe construction costs are part of the problem |
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midwayer (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. You get that right |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
22. But..but..but... |
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Doosh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
32. what happened to the "bush boom" |
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midwayer (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Not pretty.... the middle class are not squealing yet |
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midwayer (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Property taxes to rise in some areas as much as 56% ? |
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cmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. 114 foreclosures in my Ohio county last year |
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midwayer (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. 162 in my county last MONTH |
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cmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Interesting site |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
60. Think of all the Americans who have taken out Home Equity lines & spent |
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midwayer (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. "The American Predatory Way" (eom) |
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Frodo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Ah yes, but think of all the OTHER Americans who refinanced |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-21-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Very small % according to research... |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
67. I'm shocked, I tell you. |
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steely (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-20-04 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
68. I wonder what the problem is - under asswipe, there's no... |
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