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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:20 AM
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Nuclear arms found in Iraq?
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 08:20 AM by boxster
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040721-081009-2541r.htm

Oh, boy. This is about to get interesting.

I guess this is the July surprise....
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:21 AM
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1. That is so much bullshit. If he had nuclear weapons, he would have used
them.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:23 AM
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2. Consider the source! (nt)
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:31 AM
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9. Consider 6 meters (20 feet) of concrete
There'd be no reason I can think of to have that much ... anybody know? Would that aid in blocking radioactivity?

I'd guess this is an exaggerated report more of those Russian missiles with a DU payload and are therefore marked with a radioactive symbol. NewsMax or WND tried to pass those off as "nuclear weapons" a few months ago.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:34 AM
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11. Agreed. And not a word yet from...
the "biggies" - CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. If it were true, CNN would already be giving it a name and a banner - "Nukes in Iraq".

Though, I have to admit - if it's a fake, it's a pretty outlandish story for UPI to be reporting and for the Times to be publishing. Journalistic integrity further surrenders.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:35 AM
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13. "Washington Times" and "journalistic integrity"
don't belong in the same sentence.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:36 AM
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14. the "biggies" reported plenty of these outlandish stories
last April and May, stories like this came out on a weekly basis.

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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:42 AM
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18. True. Though, the stories then weren't about nukes.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 08:43 AM by boxster
Claiming Iraq has nukes - and being very specific about it: "Iraqi security reportedly discovered three missiles carrying nuclear heads concealed in a concrete trench northwest of Baghdad" - makes the previous stories about trucks and metal cylinders pale in comparison.

Assuming this is the fake we believe it to be, this is bullshit on a grand scale. This makes the previous lies perpetrated by the administration and the media look tame.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:54 AM
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21. What "Source"
The article makes about 5 references to "sources" who remain unidentified throughout.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 09:22 AM
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27. "al-Sabah"
Original report:

KHUDIR AL- DORI UNVEILS THREE HIDDEN NUCLEAR MISSILES 
Baghdad, As-Sabah , July 21, Page 1 
The official sources at the ministry of interior and the national security advisor department have refrained commenting on the news of seizing three missiles of nuclear heads in the course of arresting Khudir al- Dori the former leader at the dissolved Baath party.Notably, Iraqi political sources on anonymity affirmed that the detaining of al- Dori by the Iraqi security departments resulted in the seize of three nuclear heads missiles .The sources indicated that Khudir al- Dori occupied top party and security posts during ex-regime. Al-Dori death announced after the collapse of the regime and counterfeiting death certificate issued for him. He was arrested in the site situated between Oja and  Al-Dor .The sources were quoted as saying that these nuclear missiles were found in tunnel underground at six meters length were covered carefully to mislead sensitive scientific apparatuses detecting for these weapons.

http://www.alsabaah.com/20040721/english.htm
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:23 AM
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3. Uh-huh. The Washington Times. Yeah. Right. (nt)
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:24 AM
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4. Bull**** Disclaimer Here
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 08:24 AM by mhr
"The report could not be authenticated by the interior ministry or the national security department, but the paper noted Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshiar Zibari made a surprise request recently to Mohammed el-Baradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, to resume inspections for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."

More scare tactics from KKKarl.

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Never Forget The Face Of American Fascism
'THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE SKULL & BONES INITIATION...I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING A GOOD TIME. THESE PEOPLE -- YOU EVER HEARD OF EMOTIONAL RELEASE? YOU EVER HEARD OF NEEDING TO BLOW SOME STEAM OFF?'
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:37 AM
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15. Yep. And, if it were legit, Drudge would have it in 30-point type and the
lights flashing all over the place. Even he thinks it's fake.

Instead, it's just an afterthought compared to the Berger docs "story".
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22181 Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:26 AM
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5. I just can't buy into any article that has a line like this:
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 08:26 AM by 22181

" designed in a way to unable sophisticated sensors from discovering nuclear radiation."


What moron wrote that? I'm supposed to believe the rest of the story?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:26 AM
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6. Moonie Times?
pffft
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:29 AM
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7. Here is a related photo.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:31 AM
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8. nuclear weapons are like remote controls
they're always in the last place you look.
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no one in particular Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:33 AM
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10. Iraq is denying....
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 08:34 AM by no one in particular
http://www.reuters.com

"Iraq Interior Ministry Says Report on Nukes 'Stupid' "

On edit - link to story http://tinyurl.com/445ro
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Sparrow Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:35 AM
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12. hahaha
no way in hell.
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cspiguy Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:38 AM
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16. no way
n/t
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:41 AM
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17. This didn't take long...
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:50 AM
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19. Did Rupert Murdoch phone this one in??
Maybe he wanted to help out his old mate "Sunny".
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:51 AM
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20. Even Drudge doesn't believe it.
Otherwise, he'd have the lights flashing and the story in huge letters.

Either that or he thinks that the Berger story - particularly, Clinton's reaction - is bigger news than nukes in Iraq. ;)
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:56 AM
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22. Iraq Interior Ministry Says Report on Nukes 'Stupid'
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:56 AM
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23. Highly, highly unlikely
Unless Iraq bought the warheads from the somebody in the former Soviet Union. There was no indigenous capability to produce nuclear warheads of any size, let alone missile-mounted warheads.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 08:58 AM
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24. If any nukes show up in Iraq, we put them there.
Considering that we've had tens of thousands of troops looking for WMDs for a year-plus, I discount any possibility that they just happened to miss a concrete bunker with three nukes in it.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 09:01 AM
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25. I'll bet they actually found the depleted uranium WE dumped there n/t
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goju Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 09:02 AM
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26. Not likely
Where would Iraq have acquired them? As far as I know, North Korea would have been about the only place stupid enough to try to sell to them. They didnt have the capacity to make them, so they would have had to buy them. I dont buy it.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 09:26 AM
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28. Please continue discussion here, thank you
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