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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:43 PM
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bush green lights arms sales to iraq (yahoo story)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040721/pl_afp/us_iraq_military_bush&e=1&ncid=1480

notice 2nd paragraph:

"I hereby find that the furnishing of defense articles and services to Iraq will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace," Bush said in a memorandum for US Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites).

this sounds all too eerily familiar....
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:45 PM
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1. Numbers?
"Manila pulled its small but symbolic contingent out of Iraq"

Wasn't it something like 51 soliders? :P
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:53 PM
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8. yes. 51
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:47 PM
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2. Yet our own Solders can't get enough bullets. Bu$h is scumbag.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:49 PM
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3. Like father......Like Son!




For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
July 21, 2004

July 21, 2004
Presidential Determination
No. 2004-40



MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE

SUBJECT: Eligibility of Iraq to Receive Defense Articles

and Services Under the Foreign Assistance Act of

1961, as Amended, and the Arms Export Control Act,

as Amended

Pursuant to the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 503(a) of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, as amended, and section 3(a)(1) of the Arms Export Control Act, as amended, I hereby find that the furnishing of defense articles and services to Iraq will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace.

You are authorized and directed to report this finding to the Congress and to publish it in the Federal Register.

GEORGE W. BUSH

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/07/20040721-7.html
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:49 PM
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4. Until............
the puppet government in Iraq collapses and the next tyrant in charge uses those same weapons to kill our fighting men and women. Then we'll invade again, take the weapons away, install another puppet government, sell them weapons again.............you get the picture. And with every transaction Poppy Bush, Cheney, Baby Bush and the rest of the criminal element get richer and richer supplying them with the tools of the trade. Isn't life grand?
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:53 PM
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9. My thought exactly. Let's see if now there is a big increase in
the new Iraqi army of insurgents, oh my goof, I meant, Iraqis who might just be itching to get their hands on new equipment to hasten the coup.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 06:32 PM
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16. And by the way we need to recognize it's not ONLY the pubs.
They ARE the worst, by far, but there are bipartisan hands in that bloody cookie jar, making money off of weapons sales to all kinds of countries.

We need to put Dems in control of White House & both houses of congress, but THEN we need a wide movement to raise awareness about this scam and put it down for good.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 07:01 PM
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18. It's exactly this
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 07:28 PM by truth2power
that has been discussed on the Plame indictments threads. (I think they're up to thread #11 now).

This exact scenario was suggested. The thugs and criminals go from government to the private sector and back, endlessly, making millions of $$$$ in the process. They sell WMDs then invade the country because they have WMDs, bomb the hell out of them, then make $$$ in reconstruction, sell them weapons.........etc. .....etc...

I wish I could find that particular post. Might have been Pallas or Tellurian.....don't know. :shrug:

edit> this should go right to the post, #72 in the plame thread.

Hopefully. I'm not so good at this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2023260#2027093
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 07:30 PM
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20. They won't even get rich selling new weapons.
They'll just dust off the ones they confiscate from the U.S. armed insurgents and resell 'em.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:49 PM
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5. Once again Bushboy is bending over backwards
To please his corporate masters.

This is the most idiotic thing he could do! Doesn't he realize that the "Iraqi security forces" are leaking like a sieve? Doesn't he realize that half the arms he sends over will be in the hands of insurgents minutes after they get off the boat?

Are scary to say, the boy-king realizes all of these points all too well, and is counting on this in order to keep this never-ending war going.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:52 PM
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6. More war profiteering.
Let's see...who sells weapons to foreign countries?
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:38 PM
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13. I'm sure they've had this planned all along. Profit off every last thing.
Fuckers! :mad:
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:53 PM
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7. It may be a budgetary thing
He lacks the military budget to buy shitloads of bullets from his friends so he's going to use the Iraq rebuilding fund to do it.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:02 PM
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10. DOUCHE BAG
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 04:05 PM by billybob537
Thats what his daddy and Rummy said about Saddam in the 80s


Just a cow poking minute! Wasn't this all about getting weapons out of IRAQ???
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:16 PM
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11. i can't wait to see the picture of
rumsfeLd shaking aLLawi's hand.

the more things change....
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 04:23 PM
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12. Is Bush selling weapons to the U.S. Army in Iraq now?
I mean, who else is there?
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 05:07 PM
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14. "...and promote world peace"
These guys have a long memory, huh?
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 06:02 PM
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15. I'd like to see the inventory
How many torture tools are included in this deal?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 06:40 PM
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17. Bu$h family tradition. Gotta keep those Defense Industry war profits up.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 07:26 PM
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19. M I C
This is an old game. Sell weapons to Tyrants. When the Tyrants get too powerful or turn against Amerika, overthrow them and install new Tyrants and start all over. It's all good Capitalism.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 07:34 PM
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22. Yep. The Bu$h family fortune came largely from the Third Reich.
John Loftus, a former prosecutor in the Justice Department's Nazi War Crimes Unit, said his research found that Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was a principal in the Union Banking Corp. in Manhattan in the late 1930s and the 1940s.

Leading Nazi industrialists secretly owned the bank at that time, Loftus said, and were moving money into it through a second bank in Holland even after the United States declared war on Germany. The bank was liquidated in 1951, Loftus said, and Bush's grandfather and great-grandfather received $1.5 million from the bank as part of that dissolution.

"That's where the Bush family fortune came from: It came from the Third Reich," Loftus said. Loftus made his remarks during a speech as part of the Sarasota Reading Festival. The author of "Unholy Trinity: The Vatican, The Nazis and the Swiss Banks," Loftus documented the Swiss bank accounts that harbored funds confiscated from Holocaust victims and the participation of Italian priests in smuggling Nazi war criminals to safe haven in Canada, Central and South America and the United States after the war.

http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/bushnz1.htm

If Bu$h had any decency he would distribute his family fortune among the holocaust survivors and their families, and surviving soldiers that fought in WW II. His grandfather made the money on their suffering and deaths.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 07:34 PM
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you gotta be f***ng kidding me
I have a few questions.

Whose money is being used to buy the arms?

Uh ... ours

Who will be the targets of the arms' use?

Uh .... our guys.

Pardon me while my head explodes.

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 07:34 PM
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21. you gotta be f***ng kidding me
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 07:35 PM by maggrwaggr
well my head didn't explode but I did hit the button twice. :)
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 07:05 AM
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23. it's like groundhog day
:crazy:
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