Sept. 11 Panel Says Government Failures Not to Blame for Attacks

[Snazzy]

Sept. 11 Panel Says Government Failures Not to Blame for Attacks

By Hope Yen Associated Press Writer
Published: Jul 22, 2004


WASHINGTON (AP) - The Sept. 11 commission concludes that a "failure of imagination," not governmental neglect, allowed 19 hijackers to carry out the deadliest terrorist attack in U.S. history. The panel calls for an intelligence overhaul to confront an al-Qaida organization intent on striking again.

While faulting institutional shortcomings, the bipartisan report being released Thursday does not blame President Bush or former President Clinton for mistakes contributing to the 2001 terrorist attack, Bush administration officials familiar with the findings said.

The report, which is the culmination of a 20-month investigation into the plot that killed nearly 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania, describes the meticulous planning and determination of hijackers who sought to exploit weaknesses in airline and border procedures by taking test flights.

A surveillance video that surfaced Wednesday shows four of the hijackers passing through security gates at Washington Dulles International Airport shortly before boarding the plane they would crash into the Pentagon. In the video, the hijackers can be seen undergoing additional scrutiny after setting off metal detectors, then being permitted to continue to their gate.

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http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBBPSOTYWD.html

Gentlemen, start your washers and dryers.

Hey, what happened to vetting this till after the election? Give up on that, make a deal?


EDIT: Yahoo version:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=533&e=1&u=/ap/20040722/ap_on_re_us/sept_11_commission

(same story, dif. head on that: 9/11 Panel Blames 'Institutional Failings'

[22181]

1. Utter Bullshit, only Formalized and Published

"failure of imagination" - BULLSHIT. Even I know they had received intelligence previously stating such an "imagined" scenario as planes flying into buildings could happen.

As for the video at Dulles, do you suspect KKKarl is somewhere right now desperately trying to edit Kerry or Edwards' face onto the guard who permitted the hijackers through the gate?

[maddezmom]

2. bushco DID NOT take al Qaeda seriously

when did they ever mention it publicly??? Never!! :puke:

<One administration official said the 575-page report concludes that Bush and Clinton took the threat of al-Qaida seriously and were "genuinely concerned about the danger posed by al-Qaida," but didn't do enough to stop the terrorist organization headed by Osama bin Laden. >

[ixion]

3. Yep, and Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone gunman

case solved! :eyes:

Sure glad to know that we can have all these security 'lapses' without it being anyone's fault. :grr:

[johnnie]

4. I figured this "commission" would end up spewing BS

I guess everyone here knew it would end up this way. The only good thing to come of it was the fact that questions were asked.

[izzie]

5. Well who thinks the govt. did it in the first place?

The terrorist did it. I guess I just would like to know where the govt. was when they saw these 4 planes heading for NYC and DC?We know that the borders are open. Rich need cheep labor .I lived in SA when the US let the Saud's have visas in one day. So do you think they were checking? And Bush one was Pres. then.Are we at war? No we are just fight terrorist. It is a tactic not any country.

[shraby]

6. Remember this is only coming

out today, and only the Republicans have seen it yet.

[warrior1]

7. now then do the explain

President Clinton's success? HE WAS PAYING ATTENTION!!!!!!

fuckers this is bush's fault...

[leesa]

8. Many people think our government did it and the evidence is widespread

What a tragedy this whitewash is!

[Mr_Charlie]

9. Campaign contributions of the 9/11 Commission

Richard Ben-Veniste
Fred F. Fielding
Jamie S. Gorelick
Slade Gorton
Tom Kean
Bob Kerrey
Christopher Kojm
John F. Lehman
James R. Thompson

[Wind Dancer]

19. Arlen Specter

Richard Ben-Veniste SPECTER, ARLEN (R)

Fred F. Fielding SPECTER, ARLEN (R)

Slade Gorton SPECTER, ARLEN (R)

Tom Kean SPECTER, ARLEN (R)

John F. Lehman SPECTER, ARLEN (R)

Bring back any memories?

[Mr_Charlie]

23. nice find (nt)

[Myrina]

10. From the video, can anyone identify ...

The airport security workers who pulled the 4 aside, then let them move on ? Would be interesting to know if they had someone 'on the inside' as well to hasten them thru security.

:shrug:

[psychopomp]

11. Reuters link

Top News Article | Reuters.com
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Sept. 11 commission on Thursday criticized both the Bush and Clinton administrations for failing to fully grasp or effectively combat the threat posed by al Qaeda and recommended a shake-up of U.S. intelligence to meet future dangers.

The final report issued unanimously by the 10-member commission pointed to "deep institutional failings" and missed opportunities to thwart the hijackings carried out by al Qaeda operatives, which killed almost 3,000 people in 2001.

"Terrorism was not the overriding national security concern for the U.S. government under either the Clinton or the pre-9/11 Bush administrations," the 567-page report said.

The commission recommended the appointment of a national intelligence director and creation of a national counter-terrorism center to better coordinate and share information about future terrorist threats.
-more
reuters

[nolabels]

16. Question everything, especially people who come to ........

conclusions

The Scientific Method
(snip)
1.6: What is Occam's Razor?

Ockham's Razor ("Occam" is a Latinised variant) is the principle proposed by William of Ockham in the fifteenth century that "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate", which translates as "entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily". Various other rephrasings have been incorrectly attributed to him. In more modern terms, if you have two theories which both explain the observed facts then you should use the simplest until more evidence comes along. See W.M. Thorburn, "The Myth of Occam's Razor," Mind 27:345-353 (1918) for a detailed study of what Ockham actually wrote and what others wrote after him.

The reason behind the razor is that for any given set of facts there are an infinite number of theories that could explain them. For instance, if you have a graph with four points in a line then the simplest theory that explains them is a linear relationship, but you can draw an infinite number of different curves that all pass through the four points. There is no evidence that the straight line is the right one, but it is the simplest possible solution. So you might as well use it until someone comes along with a point off the straight line.
(snip)
http://home.xnet.com/~blatura/skep_1.html#1.6


http://www.deceptiondollar.com/7/DD7.htm

[dennis4868]

20. It is...

total bullshit to say that clinton did not fully grasp the threat from al Qaeda...Clinton and his WH were obsessed with the threat...this report is not worth using as toilet paper!

[progressivebydesign]

12. WTF? What about the HART/RUDMAN report?????

Clinton took it SERIOUSLY! This is sooo WRONG! More partisan bullshit. Clinton took it so seriously that they INSISTED on many meetings during the transition to STRESS how IMPORTANT this was!!!! I remember that Cheney was given the Hart/Rudman report, and the recommendations to FORM AN OFFICE OF HOMELAND SECURITY!! And CHeney and the WHite HOuse decided to let Cheney do it LATER, in his OWN way!!

I haven't kept up on the Commission.. was it mostly Republicans??? The 9/11 Families should be pissed about this watered down, blame the CIA stuff... when it was Bush asleep at the wheel that allowed it to happen.

[sadiesworld]

13. Utter BS (the report)

The commission is bipartisan in theory, but among the dems are:

Lee Hamilton-professional whitewasher.
Bob Kerrey-one of the very few people in DC who advocated military action against AQ prior to 9/11.
Jamie Gorelick-seriously compromised due to her AG job under Clinton.
Ben Venista-a pretty complicated fellow w/ a complicated background.

These "dems" were chosen pretty carefully, IMO.

[gumby]

14. Un-effing-believable

"Failure of imagination"?

"Failure of imagination"?

"Failure of imagination"?

This is just toooooo stoooooopid for words.

[democraticinsurgent]

21. failure of investigation, more like it. n/t

[TeeYiYi]

15. LINK to the report . . .

http://www.npr.org/911hearings/voices.html

If anyone cares.

TYY

[maddezmom]

17. thanks

it'll be a long read, but worth it.

[Shadder]

18. No, not really

Not at all worth it.

[maddezmom]

22. did you read it??

[maddezmom]

24. 9/11 Panel Says 'We Are Not Safe'

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=718&e=1&u=/ap/20040722/ap_on_re_us/sept_11_commission

[leetrisck]

25. Actually September 11 never happened

just ask bush & the commission.