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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:34 AM
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Abu Ghraib Stain Makes It Tough for U.S.
WASHINGTON - For a government that routinely lectures foreign countries on their human rights failings, this has been a very difficult year for the United States.



The abuses of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison and the disclosure of government memos that seemed to justify torture as an interrogation technique have led to charges the United States has no moral authority to stand in judgment of others.


When the United States inveighed against Sudan's recent election to a seat on the U.N. Commission for Human Rights, Sudanese diplomat Omar Bashir Manis said it was ironic that Washington raised objections given the "atrocities" American forces committed at Abu Ghraib.


Sudan's election to a seat "is not at all different" from the United States winning a seat, said Manis, whose government is accused of uprooting 1.2 million Sudanese in the Darfur region.

~snip~
more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=542&e=1&u=/ap/20040726/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_human_rights

Bush is the "do as I say, not as I do" pResident.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:36 AM
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1. But The Torture Was Blessed By Rush ..
Never Forget The Face Of American Fascism
'THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT HAPPENS AT THE SKULL & BONES INITIATION...I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING A GOOD TIME. THESE PEOPLE -- YOU EVER HEARD OF EMOTIONAL RELEASE? YOU EVER HEARD OF NEEDING TO BLOW SOME STEAM OFF?'
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:38 AM
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2. It was like college hazing for gods sake......
The price of arrogance is very high....
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:58 AM
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6. Emotional release
.I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING A GOOD TIME. THESE PEOPLE -- YOU EVER HEARD OF EMOTIONAL RELEASE?<<

Yup... some people get it from taking too many drugs.... affects their minds though.. makes 'em feel holier than thow... can do no wrong... support "their side" regardless of the facts... facts? Who needs those pesky little annoyances... eh lush?`

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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:42 AM
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3. This may be an ongoing problem the US won't ever live down
without a clean sweep of this current admimistration - and say a 100 year hiatus.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:44 AM
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4. Well I do not think they got it down to 7 nuts from W. Va, but
they sure have worked at it. All the Gen. have become holy.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 05:53 AM
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5. No moral authority whatsoever...nada. zilch.










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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 06:11 AM
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8. BushCo and the complicit Media
Have duped the majority of Amerikans that this "abuse" was limited ot a "few bad apples" who are being sent to prison. Case closed. The system wide policy of torture and secret prisons is being classified as nobody's business. Nobody incl. Dems wants this to be known because it's bad for economic business and would make the entire Govt. War Criminals. The Cover Up will be vigorous!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 08:28 AM
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9. "The Cover Up will be vigorous!" Hope it will be unsuccessful,however.n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 06:03 AM
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7. They should clean this up, now.
Stop hiding the multitude of photos and information about what has been happening, give up the people responsible, admit culpability, fire people, jail people, hire new people, and prove they are going in a new direction, putting ALL the torture behind them.

Do you think they can do this? I'm sure I don't. They are dirty, and they don't want to give up the tools of the devil which have worked so enjoyably for them.

Dirty, evil morans. They are sticking US with THEIR trashy, filthy reputations.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:34 AM
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10. Sing it, Lorne Craner (paraphrase of the old Donny Osmond hit)
Six bad apples don't spoil the whole bunch, world,
Oh, I don't care what they say,
I don't care what you heard.


"He said the United States can retain the moral high ground only by insisting that those responsible for the Abu Ghraib abuses be held accountable."

"Six U.S. military police soldiers face charges in the scandal; one other has pleaded guilty and has been sentenced to a year in prison. The role of military intelligence in the scandal is under investigation."

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 11:36 AM
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11. Sing it, Lorne Craner (paraphrase of the old Donny Osmond hit)
Edited on Mon Jul-26-04 11:37 AM by daleo
Six bad apples don't spoil the whole bunch, world,
Oh, I don't care what they say,
I don't care what you heard.


"He said the United States can retain the moral high ground only by insisting that those responsible for the Abu Ghraib abuses be held accountable."

"Six U.S. military police soldiers face charges in the scandal; one other has pleaded guilty and has been sentenced to a year in prison. The role of military intelligence in the scandal is under investigation."

On edit - whoops, a dupe.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 12:18 AM
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12. kick
:kick:
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