OUTRAGE: "Vanunu loses appeal in Israeli Supreme Court"

[Hoping4Change]

"Mr. Vanunu (the nuclear whistleblower) completed an 18-year prison term in April, but Israel's security establishment decided that the man who revealed Israel's nuclear secrets would not be allowed to leave the country or speak to the foreign media.."


"Israel's Supreme Court upheld on Monday security restrictions placed on nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu, limiting his movements and the things he is allowed to say."


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040726.wvanu0726/BNStory/International/


"He has suffered more than anyone else in the struggle against nuclear annihilation.

Citizens who alert the public to grave danger often get in trouble. They deserve - and need - our support."


Sign the International Petition to To Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Justice Minister Tomy Lapid and Public Security Minister Tzahi Hanegbi:

LET HIM GO!

Mordechai Vanunu has served his full sentence.
Lift the Restrictions.
Allow him to leave Israel immediately.


http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/freemordechaivanunu/




To Contact Mordechai

You can write directly to Mordechai:
Dr. Mordechai Vanunu
c/o St George's Cathedral
PO Box 19018
20 Nabalus Road
Jerusalem
Israel

[0007]

1. The petition has been signed by me.

[Jim Sagle]

2. Vananu sees the world as reflected from a carnival funhouse mirror.

Fresh news:

Israel behind JFK assassination: Vanunu

Diseased, self-hating psycho.

[David__77]

3. Still, a citizen of the State of Israel.

And one who certainly is lauded by the forces for nuclear non-proliferation. I am not necessarily one of these, though.

[Hoping4Change]

4. Vanunu's accusation that Israel was behinf JFK assasination is not

is not the rantings of a crazed individual.

In March 2003 BBC2 ran story about Isreal's secert nuclear and chemical weapons program in March 2003.

The documentary revealed for the first time the "unique protection" the U.S. is giving to Israel. It is now declared that the only American president who took up the nuclear buildup in Israel, with the help of France at the time, was JFK, who called the then Israel's premier David Ben Gurion to the White House.

After Kennedy's assassination, no president has ever discussed the nuclear or WMD issue with Israel. In fact, the American Congress passed legislation banning commercial satellite companies from selling aerial photos of Dimona less than four metres away.


Partial transcript of BBC2 doc.:


Olenka Frenkiel: Nuclear weapons are seen as a justifiable deterrent by most Israelis, who feel besieged by enemies.Forty years ago Uzi Even, then a young scientist at Dimona was in at the start of Israel's bomb.

Aston: Professor UZI EVEN Dimona scientist, 1962-68

We were a very small country, and we were surrounded by much much larger, more populous states on borders that are almost impossible to defend.

Uzi Even: So we were a young crew, most of us very young, very enthusiastic, working on something we believed is essential for our existence, like building the final insurance policy that we will not be attacked or terminated.

Olenka Frenkiel: It was the young Shimon Peres, back in the fifties who negotiated a secret deal with the French to buy a nuclear weapons reactor like theirs.

Olenka Frenkiel: But while Dimona was going up, intelligence reports reached Washington that Israel was building an atom bomb.
Despite claims that Dimona was for peaceful purposes only, Israel's leader Ben Gurion was summoned to Washington. President Kennedy feared an arms race in the Middle East and demanded inspections.
But when inspectors finally entered the plant in May 1961 they were tricked. They were shown a fake control room on the ground floor. They were unaware of the six floors below where the plutonium was made.

PETER HOUNAM Freelance journalist

Well this was something of great pride and almost a legendary story in Dimona, according to Vanunu. When the Americans came they were completely hoodwinked.

Peter Hounam: All the entrances including the lift shafts were bricked up and plastered over so it was impossible for anyone to find their way down to the lower floors.

Olenka Frenkiel: After Kennedy's assassination the pressure on Israel was off. His successor Lyndon Johnson turned a blind eye.
Then In 1969 Israel's Golda Meir and President Richard Nixon struck a deal, renewed by every President to this day. Israel's nuclear programme could continue as long as it was never made public. It's called nuclear ambiguity.


The term nuclear ambiguity, in some ways it sounds very grand. But isn't just a euphemism for deception?



Full transcript of BBC2 documentary http://www.doublestandards.org/vanunu1.html

[Jim Sagle]

5. Any asshole can put up a website and spew forth deranged drool.

[Hoping4Change]

6. Excuse me this is the transcript of the BBC documentary done by

the acclaimed Olenka Frenkiel. Hardly a deranged fool.

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[TahitiNut]

9. Some don't even need their own website.

:eyes: "Medice, cura te ipsum!" (Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.)

[jeff30997]

12. Ira furor brevis est.

[bpilgrim]

10. Any ASSHOLE can post on DU

too

peace

[Jim Sagle]

11. I guess we can all agree on that.

;)

[rman]

15. "Israel's Secret Weapon" awarded Peabody Award

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/04_april/05/peabody.shtml

so much for deranged drool

[ilovenicepeople]

43. What's the name of your website?

:nopity: sorry I don't mean to be an asshole.:hi:

[The Stranger]

16. Well, he sure was right about all those nukes, now wasn't he.

Or else they wouldn't attack him with such venom.

[Jim Sagle]

17. Doesn't make him right about anything else.

[The Stranger]

19. But, by the looks of the continuing attacks, he may be right about quite

a bit.

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[rman]

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[Gimel]

38. As a former employee

He had access to information, but he wasn't a high-level scientist. Some information that he is telling is very outdated and most likely never was accurate. That is even worse than if he actually knew a lot more. The reason he is being prevented from traveling and giving interviews is because he is still considered a security risk and that he knows inside information. Although he denies this, he continues to give information to the media.

[MallRat]

33. "Israel killed JFK?" Sorry, Vanunu. You just lost me.

n/t

[CHIMO]

47. Nothing Seems

To surprise me anymore.

RAY MCGOVERN: Yeah, well it was commonly known that these “crazys” existed, mostly in the defense department, but they were kept at sort of mid-senior levels where they couldn't do much harm. We're talking about Wolfowitz. We're talking about Fife. We're talking about Scooter Libby, who works for the Vice President. We’re talking about Cheney, in a way; Wormser, who is now with the Vice President; John Bolten at state. All of these folks were sort of around in these days. Some of them were also working for the Israeli government, interestingly enough. But they were kept at arm's length from the policymaking apparatus.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/23/133...

But one is never too old to learn.

[Zhade]

8. Injustice for a true Israeli patriot and hero.

Not a surprise, but sad nonetheless.

[jeff30997]

13. Done!

[IA_Seth]

14. Done!

And to think that some say Israel shares the United States' values..kind of scary if ya ask me.

The nuclear situation in Israel is one of my major obstacles in understanding our backing of them at every turn.

[Jim Sagle]

18. No, actually it's the only thing keeping them in existence.

[IA_Seth]

20. oh, well if Jim says so....

Then I better change my mind eh?

Their refusal to be a part of any non-proliferation treaty and their refusal to disarm and submit to UN inspections only creates more distrust for the Israeli administration the world over.

Your blind rebuttals to the growing world sentiment won't stop it from occurring.

It is time for Israel to change.

[Jim Sagle]

22. They'll change only over about a billion dead bodies.

And you can take it to the bank.

If the other side wants to negotiate, fine. Ultimatums won't be tolerated. P. E. R. I. O. D.

[IA_Seth]

23. billion dead bodies

and sadly that is most likely what will occur in the long run if one nation refuses to heed the world's call.

[Gimel]

27. The World's call

really does sound Orwellian.

Each nation must have integrity.
The world's call is often a call to perdition.

[The Stranger]

28. The community of nations? The world community?

Perdition? Please.

[Gimel]

40. That is poorly defined

What does the "world community" consist of?

After looking the other way while Jews were being exterminated, they are willing to follow Arafat.

Is that the voice of the community you think has the voice of justice?

Sorry, there is nothing but conflict in the "world community".

[lefty_mcduff]

37. Guess that makes the Iranian nukes AOK?

Nations having integrity and all.

[Gimel]

39. Does Iran have integrity?

That is the central question. And it plainly does not. It has cooperated to some extent with inspections, but has failed them. Iran also threatens other nations in the area, and has threatened the US.

Iranian nukes are not AOK.

[Hoping4Change]

41. Israel still won't admit its nukes or its .chemical weapons let

alone have UN inspectors in. It like Iran and the other Islamofascist states is being driven by fanatical religious elements. The whole lot of them justifying their pig-headed inhumanity on their respective delusions that they each enjoy the the blessing of a wonderful God.

It is a further travesty that Likkudniks hide behind the Holocaust to justify its crimes. People change, sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse. The Germans are now an ardent voice for pacifism, American Republicans once isolationists now advocating preemptive strikes as well as voice new willingness to use nukes preemptively. The Jews once the persecuted are now the persecuted. Things change.

[Gimel]

48. No doubt things change

Not always for the better in the short-term, but over all, change is for the good. Progress is being made.

Israel's open secret of nuclear development needs no international supervision. Israel does not threaten neighbors with nuclear attack, but development is a deterrent to enemies in the area.

[IA_Seth]

44. Integrity

And are you saying the current Israeli administration acts with Integrity?

I guess the world must be wrong, right?

[Gimel]

49. No one is perfect

No government is perfect. But yes, integrity is necessary in a democracy. Israeli leaders, for the most part, and in post situation act with integrity. Whether you or outspoken members of the "world community" or "world opinion" agree is not the necessary ingredient. Acting with integrity, a government must protect it's citizens from attack. Too much an ear to world or public opinion is sure to doom any leader.

[IA_Seth]

51. Quoting Bush?

Maybe I am crazy, but this sounds pretty dang familiar with Bush's insistency on goin into Iraq:

Whether you or outspoken members of the "world community" or "world opinion" agree is not the necessary ingredient. Acting with integrity, a government must protect it's citizens from attack. Too much an ear to world or public opinion is sure to doom any leader.

And with God as their guide they will smite down the terra-ists.

[Gimel]

52. I am inclined to object

Your comment is insulting and close to a violation.

Of course Bush does see eye to eye with Israel's defensive needs, as does the Democratic candidate Kerry.

By the way, Israel does act in the interests of self-defense before seeking to gain the approval of any other nation, including the US or it's president.

[tinanator]

24. how many bodies in Israel?

just wondering, maybe we can resort to some sort of American style preemptive nuke strike? Isnt that how we handle middle east threats these days?

[Jim Sagle]

25. That would make the USA the new Nazi Germany. I'm sure you don't

want that.

[tinanator]

26. I thought likudnik Israel was the new NAZI Germany?

Im so confused!
Wait, was it the new apartheid South Africa?
No, the new pre civil rights USA?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

30. We don't want it, but even a blind man can see that it's here.

[0007]

34. Right on MLD!!

Welcome to the New World.

[0007]

35. Check this out Media_Lies_Daily

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=149

[Media_Lies_Daily]

45. Thanks, 0007.

[Matilda]

36. Signed. And Kick!

[TheWraith]

42. How long are they going to continue f**king this guy over? NT

[IA_Seth]

46. Vanunu

Kickin it for Vanunu

[idontwantaname]

50. n/t.

[Gimel]

53. Latest update

Team to probe if Vanunu violated terms of release

A special team of Israel Police, the Shin Bet security service and the State Prosecution will examine whether nuclear whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu has violated the terms of his release by granting interviews to the foreign media, Israel Radio reported on Thursday.
....
Vanunu has been placed under a number of strict restrictions since his release from jail in April after 18 years, including speaking to the media and travelling abroad.
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The court ruled there was no doubt Vanunu was willing to expose classified information regarding the Dimona reactor and is as determined as ever to do so. This backed prosecution claims that Vanunu is still a security risk and has shown he is willing go public with any more information he can find.

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