Teresa's Ted K Tirade

[RoyGBiv]

This is apparently the supposed whopper all the RW-ers are drooling over. Make your own judgements.

Teresa's Ted K tirade
By David R. Guarino/ Herald exclusive
Read Guarino's Road to Boston Blog
Monday, July 26, 2004

Teresa Heinz Kerry, years before becoming a Democrat, railed against the party's ``putrid'' politics, said she didn't trust Sen. Edward M. Kennedy and angrily called the liberal lion a ``perfect bastard.''

In comments published in a little-known 1975 book about political wives called ``The Power Lovers: An Intimate Look at Politicians and Their Marriages,'' Heinz Kerry lashed out at the senator she'll share the primetime convention stage with tonight.

``I know some couples who stay together only for politics,'' Heinz Kerry said at the time. ``If Ted Kennedy holds on to that marriage (to ex-wife Joan) just for the Catholic vote, as some people say he does, then I think he's a perfect bastard.''

Heinz Kerry, then married to Republican Sen. H. John Heinz III of Pennsylvania, said she ``didn't trust'' President Richard M. Nixon but added, ``Ted Kennedy I don't trust either.''

http://news.bostonherald.com/dncConvention/view.bg?articleid=37308

[bluestateguy]

1. Anyway

Try again Drudge.

[Tight_rope]

49. So...SHE FINALLY SAW THE LIGHT....move along nothing to see here!

[Joe the Revelator]

2. and this is the best the RW can come up with?

The Whitehouse is ours.

[Seabiscuit]

50. Eggsactly!

Keep it up, Repukes. This kind of personal attack crap will sink your boat, because you CAN'T address the *issues* the Dems have been addressing at their Convention today, because you *caused* all the issues by fucking everything up you touched - meaning absolutely every conceivable thing on this planet - you've fucked up.

I can't wait until the debates!!!!

[sendero]

3. Let's see...

... that was 29 years ago. Gee, I'd hate to be held to the standard of what I thought 29 years ago. The Dim Son was apparently not a pleasant sight 29 years ago.

Big fat hairy fucking deal.

[LTR]

4. 1975!?!?!?!?!

Gawd damn! They really are reaching!

Wonder what Dumbya was doing in '75, besides blowing his mind out in cocaine and booze binges.

[jdj]

17. They DON'T want to go there.

wasn't this during his AWOL period?

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

25. No, that was two or three years earlier.

[jdj]

27. Close enough. Yo pukes, let's all tell what we said and

did during the first half of the 1970's. Dubya, you go first.

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

54. Bush was doing coke in 1975

...not going AWOL. Let's talk about the past, shall we?

[whistle]

5. Well, either women are free to say what is on their minds...

...or they are not free at all!

[kainah]

6. shove it n/t

[eyesroll]

7. Wow! Because what a future first lady said in 1975 is relevant!

I hope, if I run for office or am a future first lady, that some reporter dredges up comments I made decades ago.

On edit: I wrote a letter to Socks the Cat while in college, asking him to convince his owner to legalize marijuana. I didn't sign it, but they probably figured out who it was from anyway. Wonder if that'll come back to me in 2018.

[jdj]

19. Well, it shows how desperate they are.

They must be so pissed that they can't find any dirt on Kerry.

Hey pukes! She's not the one running for office!! Is it really that bad that you are trying to put the focus on her. Judging from how it worked for Hillary, I guess Heinz-Kerry is a future senator.

[Whippersnapper]

26. IF WE DISH IT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT.........

Hey...to be fair, didn't WE dredge up the GWB "military" service from over 30 years ago..........so we gotta expect stuff like this is coming......................

[thebigidea]

30. and to you, these things are on the same level?

AWOL vs. snarky comment about Ted Kennedy?

[Whippersnapper]

57. Missing the point..........................

Let the reader decide what's relevant and what's not.....that's a matter of personal beliefs, not what YOU or I want someone to believe is relevant. On this thread, when I posted my comments, there were comments posted about Laura Bush and some car accident (from 30+ years ago, too)......what does THAT have to do with anything either?????????? If you use the same logic "Theresa isn't running for President, so her comments don't matter" then Laura Bush car accidents don't matter either, she's NOT President, WHY bring it up, right??

My point in my original post stands. If you are going to bring up issues from 30+ years ago, regardless of how relevant they ARE or ARE NOT, you've got to expect that the other side will do the same thing. So, why bring something up, just because it supports YOUR belief and then bitch about the other side doing the same exact thing????? This applies to BOTH sides, BTW.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

73. You speak as though you have been here before....

Death is relevant forever..there is no statute of limitations on murder...and if she was drunk when she killed that person, it could conceivably be murder...Democrats are NOT the ones who are FIRST to bring up REMOTE events in history and use them in the present.

And Theresa probably STILL believes her comments in the context they were quoted in...BTW...find me a recent article about Laura's incident 30 years ago..the point is NOT about what we or they bring up/..the point that DOES have relevance is that the media COVERS Theresa's statements of 30 years ago and is silent about Bush's history such as military service until FORCED to confront it..

THAT IS THE POINT.

Welcome back to DU

[OKNancy]

74. I read about Laura's

quite a bit in 2000. Actually no one ever said she was drunk. The reason I was really interested in that aspect of the campaign was that one of my students had a very similar accident and killed someone. She, like Laura Bush was a teen driver and nothing happened to her.

Personally, I think it it tacky to bring up Laura's past incident, and what Teresa said 25 years ago.

[Whippersnapper]

81. Personally...I think it's tacky...........................

"Personally, I think it it tacky to bring up Laura's past incident, and what Teresa said 25 years ago"

My point exactly.....but many, many people here pound GWB on 30+ year old stories and then are P.O.'d when a 30+ year old story is brought up on Teresa Kerry........it is ALL old news.......but if it's brought up around this forum, you have to expect the OTHER side is going to do the same.....like my mother always said, if you're going to dish it out you're going to have to expect to take as good as you give......some people can, others cannot....

[0007]

80. Congratulations on your 38000th post

[RoyGBiv]

31. Huh?

Is Kerry's wife running to be commander in chief? Is she sending our children out to die for oil while she herself wasn't willing to go to war? Are any of Ms. Kerry's opinions from 1975 relevant to her position as the future President's wife?

No.

Kerry's wife and Bush are not equivalent targets. Republicans attack strong women who speak their minds because they don't like those kinds of women. They want stupid lap dogs that know how to make coffee and accept whatever is given to them after which they say "Thank you, sir! I love you, sir. You give my life meaning, sir."

The only reason we should expect this kind of garbage is that we know Karl Rove, George Dubya Bush, and the whole lot of them are fucking assholes.

Edited to add profanity, which I don't normally use, but which I decided was appropriate.

[yardwork]

35. Who is "we," white guy?

I see you are new around here. Welcome to DU.

[catzies]

36. I don't THINK so. An AWOL commander in chief is relevant.

Welcome to DU, enjoy your stay.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

41. I didn't notice that Teresa was running for office....

You really DON'T want to go where you're heading.

[stickdog]

47. One was dishing; the other was DESERTING!

[KC21304]

77. Bush took us to war, said he is a war president.

It is perfectly fair to look into his actions when he was supporting another war and avoided his duty.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

8. 1975 was a long time ago!!! This is 2004!

[Chicago Democrat]

29. I was a Republican then too, but I was only 12.

[annxburns]

9. Sigh, I feel A LOT better ....

... I swear I was ready to have a f**king cow earlier today. All the crap that republican cable machine was throwing at Teresa and Kerry (CNN, FOX, MSRNC) and that STUPID POLL on ABC but .....


I just got a call from my republican aunt. She started the conversation by saying "Why do the republicans ALWAYS GO AFTER THE WIVES?". She is voting for Kerry. She also reminded me that it is a long time till the election. Yeah, the cable whores are doing everything they can for Bush - but this election will be determined by events outside the media - the economy, Iraq and hopefully, a bunch of indictments against this putrid administration.

However, I am still cancelling cable tomorrow. The only thing worth watching was the Daily Show - and I can get someone to tape that for me.

[RoyGBiv]

13. Having a Cow

Me too. I let myself think they'd actually found something.

This is just, well, stupid. Hell, if one were to go back to 1980, I'm sure one could dig up a ton of negative comments from Democrats as well as Republicans about Kennedy.

In the context of 1975, this is so far from being unusual it's barely worth notice.

Oh well. Wingnuts will try to run with it. Can't have a woman who speaks her mind, ya know. That would totally destroy their notion of Family Values.

[Mr.Green93]

10. yawn

[bagnana]

11. I like her!

I really do. She speaks her mind about things that bug her. She doesn't believe in politicians staying in loveless marriages for poll results. She is a real person. She admits she doesn't trust Nixon. Well who did, but then again try to get a Repub wife in 2004 to say they don't trust Bush! They have followed him into the abyss and would rather stay there with him than admit he was wrong.

[RoyGBiv]

51. I like her too...

Strong willed, intelligent, articulate, opinionated women ... who could ask for anything more.

[LowerManhattanite]

12. The republican internal polling must be scanning something awful...

...as they seem pretty desperate dragging this piece a' nothin' out.


As a New Yorker, I'm now calling for a protester to dress up as a bloodied, mangled, speed bump, a.k.a. Laura Bush's late ex-boyfriend. :)

[jdj]

21. That is the best response I have heard all day.

Bravo for the thought. I think ALL protestors should dress up as mangled corpses and have a big sign that says "will the real ex-boyfriend of Laura Bush please stand up." Then the rest will be the men that died in service with George the first (I don't remember the story on what happened during the war, just remember he was the only survivor.) God, you know Laura had to have been drunk of her ass when she killed that guy, nothing else makes sense.

[RoyGBiv]

14. Classic Rove

This is classic Rove stuff, though, whether it means anything or not.

I think possibly I know where all those jobs Bush says he's created are coming from. It must have taken a huge staff to root around and find this pile of crap.

Wonder if they outsourced. :-)

[bushisanidiot]

15. In other news: Laura Bush KILLED SOMEONE WITH HER CAR

yet we don't hear the press hound on THAT.

if Laura get's a pass then Teresa should.

[DieboldMustDie]

20. She ran a stop sign and splattered her ex-boyfriend all over the pavement.

I think she was 17 years old at the time, but hey, if were going to dig up dirt from way back when, what the hell? :shrug:

[Zynx]

61. That is worthy of some attention.

That isn't just a youthful indiscretion. She killed somebody.

[kskiska]

16. Yeah, and Frank Sinatra said that Nancy Reagan

"was a dumb broad with fat ankles who couldn't act." Quoted by Shirley macLaine.

[thebigidea]

22. Fat ankles? Gotta admit, 1st time I ever heard that insult.

Oobie doobie wha?

[kskiska]

24. Vanity Fair Article – Shirley MacLaine on Sinatra

(snip)

For example, he hated Richard Nixon with deep vitriol, then ended up campaigning for him. He thought Ronald Reagan was a "stupid bore who couldn't get a job in pictures, which is why he went into politics." He threatened to move out of California if Reagan ever got elected to public office. He thought "Nancy was a dumb broad with fat ankles who couldn't act." But when Jesse Unruh, former Speaker of the California Assembly and a Bobby Kennedy loyalist, ran against Reagan for governor, Frank decided to support Reagan.

Why? Because of Sinatra's association with the Mafia. Frank supported Reagan to get back at Bobby.

http://www.sinatraarchive.com/tis/shirley.html

[cygy2k]

18. Report: Laura Bush in 1963 Car Wreck

Funny what people were doing back then, if innocent Laura was doing the following, what was George doing?....

Report: Laura Bush in 1963 Car Wreck

By JIM VERTUNO, Associated Press Writer

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - At 17, Laura Bush ran a stop sign and crashed into another car, killing her boyfriend who was driving it, according to an accident report released to The Associated Press on Wednesday.

Mrs. Bush is the wife of Republican presidential nominee-to-be George W. Bush (news - web sites), the Texas governor.

``It was a very tragic accident that deeply affected the families and was very painful for all involved, including the community at large,'' said her spokesman, Andrew Malcolm. ``To this day, Mrs. Bush remains unable to talk about it.''

Mrs. Bush did say in March, when asked at a campaign stop about the crash, ``I know this as an adult, and even more as a parent, it was crushing ... for the family involved and for me as well.''

According to the two-page accident report released Wednesday by the city of Midland, Laura Welch was driving her Chevrolet sedan on a clear night shortly after 8 p.m. on Nov. 6, 1963, when she drove into an intersection and struck a Corvair sedan driven by 17-year-old Michael Douglas.

Although previous news accounts have reported Douglas was thrown from the car and broke his neck, those details were not in the report.

The speed of Laura Bush's car was illegible on the report. The speed limit for the road was 55.

Neither driver was drinking, the police report said.

Laura Bush and her passenger, Judy Dykes, also 17, were taken to a hospital and treated for minor injuries, according to an accident account printed at the time in the Midland Reporter-Telegram.

The police report indicates no charges were filed. That section of the report was left blank.

``As far as we know, no charges were filed,'' said Midland city attorney Keith Stretcher. ``I don't think it's unusual that charges weren't filed.''

The police report was released after an open records request was submitted to Midland officials in March. City officials had declined to release the records because the victims were under 18.

[Straight Shooter]

45. The speed of laura bush's car was illegible on the report.

Uh-huh. Wonder how that happened. :eyes:

Wonder when it happened.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

23. Heinz needs to tell the Boston Herald to "SHOVE IT"

It's time to go on the offensive against the fascist corporate-licking media.

The best defense is a good offense. Dems DO NOT need to backpeddle at all!

JB

[slappypan]

28. She has strong opinions and says shocking things!

Quick, somebody medicate her!

:eyes:

[SalParadise]

32. 1975 - didn't C+ Agustus have a nose full of coke that year??

n/t

[stevedeshazer]

39. LOL

Love the reference....

[Catfight]

70. C+ Augustus...I love Democrats...we're SO much smarter than reUglycans.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

33. Wow!! Only thirty years ago! Current events for the Boston Herald....

...nasty little rightwing rag that it is.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

34. LOL...this is so f*ckin stupid

I feel better about our prospects with every hour that passes.

[SOS]

37. News Flash from 1936!

Ronald Reagan, a liberal Democrat, gives enthusiastic support to FDR and his New Deal policies.

[riverwalker]

38. 30 years ago! Bwaaahaaahaa

I listened to Sludge last night. He said Theresa "nearly assaulted" the guy, poor Matt was hysterical (I think his estrogen Rx. is too high) about this 5'2" 110 lb. lady "LUNGING" at the poor innocent reporter.
What a bunch of whining candyassed cowards.

[AlCzervik]

40. an interview from almost 30 years ago

This is a sign, Bush campaign is in deep trouble. Once again the Gop has to resort to wife beating.

[drdtroit]

42. I've begun my own campaign against Drudge,

Limbaugh, Hannity, et-al by emiling them often and asking them "Why do you hate America?". I think we should all do it as a standard practice.

[POed_Ex_Repub]

43. Got anything from... say... I dunno... this MILLENIUM?

29 years... people change their minds... Hell, I used to be a republican too.

People do see the light from time to time. *sigh*

[Scorpious_Maximus]

44. 1975

Drudge has this as his headline.

Total smear job. Dickless can drop the F-Bomb on the floor of the US Senate, and these losers go after Teresa.

[2Design]

46. they really do run a hate machine and they do not like this powerful

woman....and like clinton....they are building a hate machine ...they are not christ followers they are the devils worshippers and their behavior shows it...

[Tight_rope]

48. Who cares...she's not running for office...her hubby is!...n/t

[Piperay]

52. Big fucking deal

in 1975 I was a repukeliCON too but intelligent people are able to grow and change their minds about things instead of never expanding their minds and staying stuck in stupidity forever. :silly:

[arwalden]

53. So-o-o-o.... That Would Make Her... What? A "Flip-Flopper"??? LOL

[jeanmarc]

55. In 1975, our Resident was a wet, wet drunk.[nt]

[calmdown20]

56. nice to be among optimists, but...

unfortunately the media is going to get a hold of this stuff and talk about it so much its going to overshadow everything. I mean, hell...there is no way that I could sit through another video of Teresa saying "shove it". You would think that its the end of the world...well, now it really is going to be the end of the world with dems being called putrid. Im with all of you, that was a long, long time ago, and Im glad she has seen the light. Unfortunately the wont see it like that.

[Gin]

58. all she needs to say is shes "BORN AGAIN...." it works for the thugs..

it will work fo rher too.

[truthspeaker]

59. If we're going all the way back to 1975, let's see what Bush was saying...

"Rack it up!"
*snort*
*chug*
*slurp*
*snort*

Got any more of this?

[The Stranger]

60. "Perfect Bastard"? As opposed to an imperfect bastard?

I think Ted and most of the rest of us would opt for the latter.

[Beefeater]

62. water under the bridge?

Kennedy's office dismissed the comments as water under the bridge and said the two get along famously now _ regardless of what Heinz Kerry has said in the past.

[Nancy Waterman]

64. I think they are trying piss Kerry off

by going after his wife right before he makes his speech. They want to derail his focus and upset him. I don't think they worry about this nonsense from 30 years ago sticking. They are being more crafty than that. This definitely smells of Rove and may well be aimed at Kerry through his wife..

[truthspeaker]

67. poor choice of words for Kennedy ;)

classy answer though

[progressivebydesign]

63. Yeah.. but the Repugs dislike Kennedy, too..

So what's the problem?? They are SOOO digging right now, aren't they? How about we all smear Laura Bush and Lynne Cheney? Values.. these are Republican values, huh? No thanks.

[goclark]

65. Ted doesn't seem bothered

Does the campaign have photos of Ted and the Kerry family?

Sounds like a few hug photo ops will do it.

Ted did get out of the marriage.

A lot of people,even Rethugs got out of bad marriages.


They are just geared up to get her and she will throw it right back at them.

I love her because she speaks her mind. Finally, someone can join Martha Mitchell and Hilliary and Eleanor!

[Hobarticus]

66. What was Bush doing and saying 29 years ago? THAT's more valid!

Keep digging, Repukes, you might find China.

[hatrack]

68. What? That's it? Who gives a shit?

Man, this is simultaneously pathetic and hilarious. Come one, Ed - if you're going to attack the candidates' wives, at least have some ammunition of SOME kind.

[bobbyboucher]

69. How old was she in 1975?

That's 29 years ago. 29 years ago I was 12.

[Politicub]

71. This is great

And every time it gets brought up it gives Dems a reason for talking about Awol's past 30 years hence. I seem to remember a DUI and an abortion by *. I can't wait until someone here at work brings up the interview just so I can use the opportunity to plant a seed about Dubya's lies.

Teresa words were just that -- words. Bush's past, on the other hand, is a treasure trove of illicit actions. I think people are starting to appreciate Teresa's moxie. The public says enough of these mousy first ladies like Laura Bush who placates herself with Valium while she blankly stares at her man.

[justjones]

72. The Gropenator was participating in gang-bangs....

with black women (oh, my!:eyes:), talking about his penis size and how he can get it up in front of other men, but it doesn't make him gay.

Were his comments relevant to today? The Rethuglians say no. Well, his comments in 1977 are as relevant today as Teresa Kerry's 1975 comments. To believe differently is the typical hypocritical Rethuglian way.

[Name removed]

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[DemBones DemBones]

76. How do you new posters get on here with no profile? nt

[DemBones DemBones]

78. Did you notice what she said? Exactly what she said?

``I know some couples who stay together only for politics,'' Heinz Kerry said at the time. ``If Ted Kennedy holds on to that marriage (to ex-wife Joan) just for the Catholic vote, as some people say he does, then I think he's a perfect bastard.''



She said IF Ted stays with Joan just for the Catholic vote THEN I think he's a perfect bastard.

She was condemning the concept of people staying together solely for political reasons, using Ted & Joan Kennedy as an example of a couple that was said about.

It's like saying "Some people say George Bush beats Laura and if that's true, then I think he's a perfect bastard."



" Heinz Kerry, then married to Republican Sen. H. John Heinz III of Pennsylvania, said she ``didn't trust'' President Richard M. Nixon but added, ``Ted Kennedy I don't trust either.''

As for this comment, she was being bi-partisan, wasn't she? :evilgrin:

She was criticizing a recent Republican president (albeit a disgraced one) while married to a Republican senator -- pretty nervy of her, but so what? Why didn't she trust Ted Kennedy? Probably because she'd heard he was staying with Joan only for political reasons.

Making mountains out of molehills, these pubs are.

[medeak]

79. premenapausal?

twenty years ago...that would be about right...can relate...
def...menapausal...can't do math...err 30 years

[rocktivity]

82. I have a niece who is older than her statement!!!

And she was a REPUBLICAN when she made it!THIS is the "explosive news" about Mrs. Kerry that Hannity hinted at yesterday? And just when I thought it was safe to believe they'd hit bottom with their "bunny suit" campaign!


rocknation

[JDPriestly]

83. Many people agreed with Teresa Heinz-Kerry back then.

Ted Kennedy has rehabilitated himself, but a lot of people, including me, didn't like him for many years after Chappadaquick. (Did I spell that right?) He worked really hard to change his life, and he and his present wife deserve a lot of credit. He is willing to stand up for the poor and those on the margins of society, he won my trust back.

[RoyGBiv]

85. You hit the nail on the head...

Kennedy's image took a deep hit from all across the political spectrum for certain activities in his life.

I have to admit he wasn't one of my favorite people in 1980 either. I wasn't old enough really to understand why, but he really pissed off my grandma, a life-long yellow dog, and that was enough for me. :-)

[kaiso]

84. And Bush was arrested for drunk driving in that same period! nt