Moore's movie stirs up Crawford

[Rose Siding]

CRAWFORD, Texas – Filmmaker Michael Moore didn't show, but the Crawford debut of his Fahrenheit 9/11 turned the streets of President Bush's adopted hometown into a political circus Wednesday evening.

Visitors and some residents milled about as traffic clogged Crawford's main intersection.
...
Hundreds of the president's critics made cash donations to the Peace House that would later gain them admission to the sundown showing of the anti-Bush documentary in the football field parking lot.

Local GOP activist Cathy Horton scurried to set up chairs for a pro-Bush rally at the Old Amsler Building.

"It's a positive event," she said. "We aren't even mentioning Mr. Moore's name."

That gathering was to include gospel singing, prayers led by two preachers and a new Bush-Cheney campaign video that skewers Democratic opponent John Kerry as a waffler.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072904dntexfahrenheit.95ad1.html

[Dying Eagle]

1. Nice

isn't shrub in Crawford this week. I bet he never left his "Ranch"

[lovedems]

2. I don't feel like registering but I read in another post there were

3,000 at the film showing when they were only expecting 1,000. How many showed up for the pro-smirky rally? A dozen?

[mark11727]

4. As many as could fit in the clown car.

[KansDem]

6. Q: "How do you know when a pro-Bush rally exceeds expectations?"

A: "When two porta-potties have to be set up"

[Jackpine Radical]

10. When the majority of the participants are sufficiently toilet trained

to use porta-potties.

[montana_hazeleyes]

32. #s 4,6 ,and 10

LOL.omg you guys a too funny!! LOL

[fishnfla]

8. OMG! LOL

Good one.

[Rose Siding]

5. This article doesn't mention numbers except what's snipped.

Mostly it gives the impression that the two factions were equally represented and I'm doubtful that was the case.

[Redbear]

12. From what I saw there were about 150 pro-Bushies at their rally site

Plus another 15 or so who showed up to wave signs at us as we walked in to the film site. I would say the film attendance was 2500-3000.

The signs were pretty lame:

"Kerry is a fairy."

"Keep a man of God in the White House"

"Moore lies more than he eats."

One guy was trying to disrupt those watching. He kept calling Michael Moore a "faggot" and a "queer." Everyone ignored him and he left.

The most enduring memory was the Republican couple next to me. They wore anti-Moore and God Bless America shirts and the woman actually carried a framed photo of Bush. They brought their two boys who looked like 5 and 8 and let them watch the dead babies, burned faces etc.

[ecoalex]

19. Keep a Man of God in the White House

A man of which God? the one that has a Jihad on the U.S. ?

[physioex]

20. You never mentioned if any changed their minds??? EOM

[Dover]

25. Well at least they watched......

It sure would be interesting to find out how the movie impacts such devotees.

[lebkuchen]

29. Frightening. What happened to education in America?

They are Nazi Germany, those Texans! They need to get out an travel beyond their own border.

[sendero]

35. A man of God?

As if God would send a boy to do a man's job.

[Elbowroom]

3. this sure is pro-bush logic

"It's a positive event," she said. "We aren't even mentioning Mr. Moore's name."



you aren't what?

[Jackpine Radical]

9. Not just the oxy-Moore-on, but

the idea that showing an attack film on Kerry is "a positive event." Good Grief, with opponents like this I sometimes wonder why there's even a question about the outcome of the election.

And then reality lands on me as I remember how stupid the average American is.

I remember getting drunk with Harry Harlow (the famed "monkey psychologist") one time many years ago & he commented that there was barely enough intelligence in the population at large to keep up the facade of a civilization.

[hadrons]

7. "It's a positive event,"???

"It's a positive event," she said. "We aren't even mentioning Mr. Moore's name."

That gathering was to include gospel singing, prayers led by two preachers and a new Bush-Cheney campaign video that skewers Democratic opponent John Kerry as a waffler.

I guess this what passes for "positive" in their eyes

[Hoosier Democrat]

11. Is it too late to give Texas back to Mexico?????

[Media_Lies_Daily]

13. They never renounced being a Republic....hmmmm....

...then again, if we cut them loose we'd have to invade because they have oil.

And Tom Delay certainly qualifies as a WMD (Weapon of Mass Dumbass).

[Hoosier Democrat]

21. Yeah, then we could send Delay and Cornyn to Abu Grhaib!!!

[Democracy Died 2004]

14. Give it back? Damn i thought we

stole it in the first place..talk about a bad heist.

[Kikosexy2]

18. No need...

we Mexican and Mexican-Americans will always consider Texas (as well Calif., NM, AZ, etc.) as Mexico. Just got to get rid of the bad elements--the Bushies and evil Republicans from those states. NO BUSH, NO DICK IN 2004!

[TrogL]

15. Prayers?

gospel singing, prayers led by two preachers

:wtf: is that supposed to accomplish? It's a movie about politics.

[Longhorn]

16. Politics and religion

are one in the same to those people.

[Rose Siding]

17. That was at the Bush rally

What else is there for them to do? After a while the flag waving arm tires.

[Swamp Rat]

22. Bush&Co + supporters = Church sodomizes State

"It's a positive event," she said. "We aren't even mentioning Mr. Moore's name."

HA! An X-tian orgy. They invoke "Jesus!" while praising Bush. Sounds like a pornographic display of power/God-Bush-Fuhrer worship and gloating. Are these people mad? What is Moore, Satan? This is not "American" in my estimation and it seems un-Christian. There is no hope for these people. I recommend frontal lobotomies for the whole lot of 'em.

[ChrisK]

23. Whats weird...

Is that these folks don't see how “off the wall” there acting. I'm not trying to attack there religion or there belief but when all you have is some prayers, gospel singing and a video that "skewers" Kerry I think one has to start to wonder where there REAL priorities are.

Maybe they don't know there are two wars going on and the economy is in the can, jobs are still moving overseas and there is scandal after scandal that has and still continues to come out all the while the "chosen one" is in the White House...Someone has GOT to help them out of there religion funk to truly see the light (excuse the pun :) )

If there is a god out there I hope he/she/it can knock a bit of sense into these folks and get them to see whats happening out there and not dodge the issuse with these "positive events" that do nothing more then hide the real horror just beneath the surface.

One can only hope.

[info being]

24. I heard an interesting stat last night from Scarborough

(never thought I'd say that). He said that, of people who go to church once a week or more, 90% support Bush. That's the best argument I've ever head against American Christianity. It is evil...as in "Good and evil are defined by the consequences." If one's beliefs lead to pain, suffering, and death for others, than one's beliefs are evil. What else can I say?

[Dover]

26. Maybe 90% who go to the MOONIE church or perhaps the Baptists

and Church of Christers.....but I doubt that figure is accurate for ALL Christian church goers.

I think you can divide churches and church goers along ideological/religious lines on issues such as abortion/prayer in the schools/division of church & state/etc.

[Dover]

27. Check out the earlier thread on this AND a news clip

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=714522&mesg_id=714522

Here's the local news clip that actually shows the event!

I registered but can't seem to log in so I can watch the clip. Maybe you'll have better luck.

Scroll down to the 'local news' section and click on the story clip titled, 'Fahrenheit 9/11' plays in Crawford .
http://www.kvue.com /

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And this other local station said it was only 1000 watching the film (but who's counting).

"Fahrenheit 9/11" Plays In Crawford

Jul 28, 2004 10:17 pm US/Central

Hundreds of people descended on tiny Crawford, a few miles from President Bush's ranch, some to show their support of the president and others to see a documentary criticizing his administration.

In this one-stoplight town, many folks aren't too happy about the arrival of filmmaker Michael Moore's blistering documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11."

About a thousand (1000) people watched the movie Wednesday.

About 300 people attended a pro-Bush rally before the
movie was shown in a parking lot by Crawford's high school football stadium.

Rally speakers included Texas Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson and state Representative Arlene Wohlgemuth, the GOP congressional candidate for District 17, which includes Crawford....MORE

http://keyetv.com/localnews/local_story_210232426.html

[Dover]

28. OFFICIAL HEADCOUNT for the movie.......

Police estimates from incoming head counts:
over 2,500. Peace House estimates: 2,500-2,700....although the crowd may have exceeded 3,000 ultimately.

[TX-RAT]

30. interesting, the population of Crawford is 751

Where'd everybody come from?

[roguevalley]

31. we still, the thinking and willing to think, out number them 3000-1

[Soaring_Eagle]

33. Moore A Traitor?

The one notion that completely blows my mind is how someone such as a woman who was quoted in the CNN.com version of the Crawford, Texas, rally could actually claim that Michael Moore is a traitor.

It's the one part of the whole Bush zealotry that just causes my brain to sizzle. It's the this-is-how-we-do-things-here-and-that's-that mentality at its worst.

I can just hear this woman's father 40 years ago calling people traitors for admitting that the Civil Rights Act was a good piece of legislation.

These are the people who just believe what they hear from the president because, for goodness sake, he's the president. They think everything that American has ever done is wonderful and admirable.

Then there are realists like me. Being a realist, I come to terms with the fact that a majority of folks really don't watch the convention footage and don't really go to the candidate Web sites and don't even know, half the time, who the candidates are.

This is what Mr. Kerry must overcome. He must liven these people up and get them to pay attention. But talking about a better tomorrow isn't going to do it for most of these people. They've probably only seen Kerry's face four or five times. They only listen when it's something about their president.

So, it all boils down to a true need to be incessant in attacking George W. Bush. I mean, the Democrats have enough ammunition to blow Bush to bits, and we're talking about running a positive campaign? It sounds all well and good, but people like this woman don't give a rat's patootie about being positive. And so there's the dilemma.

[Toots]

36. Let Kerry run a positive campaign but that doesn't stop us and

Welcome to DU. We can be a part of the action and bring out every thing we know about these thugs. :beer: on me :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Hobarticus]

34. Best she can do is 'Kerry's a waffler'!

Bush is reading 'My Pet Goat' for seven minutes onthe big screen in Crawford, and the best she can vomit up is the old waffler line!

LOVIN' LIFE RIGHT NOW!!!