Former Air Force chief of staff criticizes Bush (Switches to JFK)

[Nambe]

Associated Press

... Retired General Merrill "Tony" McPeak gave the Democrats' weekly radio address today.He says he switched his support from President Bush to Kerry on the strength of Kerry's wartime service and experience in Vietnam.McPeak said it "means an awful lot" to him that Kerry fought for his country as a young man.And he said for him, the "real deal" isn't whether a strategy is Republican or Democrat -- it's "whether it makes us safer."McPeak also questioned what he called the president's "grudging cooperation" with the commission investigating the September eleventh attacks.

[TrueAmerican]

1. General McPeak was not liked in the Air Force

He was forced to resign.

[Justice]

2. Please Explain Why

[Feanorcurufinwe]

5. You mean an unsupported, uncited, out-of-context attack isn't enough

for you? You actually want to know the facts of the matter and form your own judgement? :spank:

[TrueAmerican]

8. As a member of the US Air Force for 20 years

I just got unsolicited feedback yesterday from fellow bluesuiters that McPeak was not liked by the rest of the Air Force.
And I couldn't rebut it.
I lived it.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

14. Please document your assertion

he was forced to resign

Is that true? When? Why? By whom? Link?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

28. McPeak's bio says nothing about being forced out by anyone...

...on top of that, he retired in 1994. The last time I looked, that was during Clinton's administration, with which he also had some issues.

If he's not well-liked now among your fellow "bluesuiters", it's probably because he originally supported Dean, and is against the war in Iraq.

Your friends are not being completely honest with you, are they?

<http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Merrill_A._McPeak>

[goforit]

36. Gossip without facts hurts every facet of industry.

I'm sure the clamp is on on every service personel in all
military forces.

But Just to let the Airforce know.....

Their finger prints are on 911 too!!!

They failed!!!

[TrueAmerican]

6. Well, he went though a whole lot of uniform changes in two years

We were being rediculed from the other branches for not being able to get it right.

Take the stripes off, put the stripes on, take the velcro patch off, put the velcro patch on, put the name tapes back on, take them off.


That's just one.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

12. Please document your assertion

he was forced to resign


Is that true? Why? When? Forced by whom? Link?

[yardwork]

13. Inconvenient uniform changes. Yeah, that's a lot worse than invading Iraq

Yeah, I can see how that totally negates anything McPeak says now.

/sarcasm off

[frylock]

17. get the female cadet drunk, take the female cadet's clothes off..

rape the the female cadet. Nothing personal, and I do appreciate your service to our country, but the Air Force ain't exactly looking real good these days.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

18. Please document your assertion

I have no idea whether or not it is true, but accusing McPeak of rape is pretty serious.

Is it true? Citation please.

[frylock]

19. no no.. not mcpeak

Rape Without Repercussion? Women Say Assaults Are Not Prosecuted at Air Force Academy.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/US/2020_airforce_allegations030228.html

I just wanted to point out that McPeak being "forced" to resign shouldn't carry too much weight, as the Air Force, IMHO, doesn't really have much in the way of morals to stand on. Sorry for the confusion.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

21. Well, that's if it is even true.

So far, there has been no colloboration of this charge.

[0007]

22. ....another smear job by the GOP, 'eh?

The only thing you can come up with is a few right wing remarks on some blog. LOL!! What a load of crap

[tabasco]

15. Yeah, they must have really hated him ...

to give him four stars.

[Floogeldy]

23. George Bush is not liked in the world

He will be forced out of office.

[newyawker99]

39. Hi Floogeldy!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[lumpy]

24. MacArthur and Patton

were not exactly adored by the troops either. All in all they did a better job than Bush ever could dream of. Bush is not military at all. Not everyone holds their bosses in awe. Witness the hatred for George W. Bush.

[bluestateguy]

27. Anytime a General or Admiral is a Democrat

Then the story always goes, they were "fired" and "not well liked" by the Pentagon. Shinseki, McPeak, Clark, blah, blah....

[Media_Lies_Daily]

29. Baloney. See my post #28, and inside...

<http://www.meetingpointforums.com/ci_agenda.html>

After you click on the link, scroll down to read McPeak's bio. Pretty impressive background if you ask me. It is extremely doubtful that he was forced to resign.

Your friends are not being honest with you, are they?

[RetroLounge]

31. Says you.

anecdotal bullshit to back it up, I'm sure...

RL

[The_Casual_Observer]

37. "True Patriots" all are republicans and don't you forget it!

They bought the rights to the American flag too!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

38. Showing your True Colors?

[Cocoa]

3. let's review the list

For Bush in 2000, against Bush now:

Gen. McPeak
Florida Firefighters Union
National Police Officers Union
Lee Iaccoca (sp?)
more, but I forgot...

[yardwork]

11. Donald Trump. He recently said he would fire Bush over Iraq

I don't know for sure that he supported * in 2000 but he probably did.

[mandyky]

4. MCPeak was also an adviser to Howard Dean

During the primaries. I think he was one of the former generals on stage at the Conventions, as well.

[Ivote]

9. Just Like Clark Said

There are going to be thousands and thousands who will follow.
Now there will be a steady drift joing us as we continue to build a stronger and safer America.

[aquart]

7. STOP calling Kerry JFK.

It's an obscene comparison, considering what happened. I lived thru it. Did you?

[Trajan]

10. JFK JFK JFK .....

I love when people tell me to STOP doing something ....

[Mr.Green93]

33. Uncle John and MamaT

[JohnOneillsMemory]

40. "Come hear...Uncle John's band..." -Grateful Dead flashback, sorry.

Anthony Zinni is still my favorite 'Generals Against Bush' spokes-model.

He only lost in the swimsuit competition because of those scars... and Wesley Clark's modern interpretive dance in the talent section.

Is this election season gonna get wierder? Just asking.

[Nambe]

16. War hero, Catholic, etc.... besides

There's no doubt in my little mind that papa bush was involved in his murder. Now he's back, in a way.

Click to enter

[MODemocrat]

26. Aquart, why does this bother you so much?

Really, I don't believe anyone is trying to compare John Kerry to
John Kennedy, but after all, Kennedy's initials were not copyrighted.
If my initials were the same as someone famous, should I not use them?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

30. JFK, JFK, JFK...

I lived through it, too, so don't start any crap with me.

[Qanisqineq]

20. does anyone know about a statement Bush made lately

about not letting the UN or NATO be in charge of US forces? Or something to that effect. My husband saw it on TV last night and told me it would make a lot of military commanders pissed off. (he's military, so I took his word for it) I didn't hear it so I'm not sure exactly what Bush said.

[lumpy]

25. Have you noticed Little Dictators

don't like to share their power?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

32. The only way NATO will agree to putting troops into Iraq is to have...

...all of the countries reporting to the top NATO commander. FratBoy will not agree to that, so under FratBoy, our troops are stuck in Iraq.

[OKNancy]

34. KICK

kick

[fishface]

35. Here's the full story from CNN

Saturday, July 31, 2004 Posted: 11:15 AM EDT (1515 GMT)




(CNN) -- A former Air Force chief of staff and one-time "Veteran for Bush" said Saturday that America's foreign relations for the first three years of President Bush's term have been "a national disaster" but that the president's Democratic rival was "up to the task" of rebuilding.

Retired Gen. Tony McPeak, the Air Force chief of staff during the first Gulf War, delivered the Democratic radio address supporting implementation of the 9/11 commission's recommendations for national security.

"As president, John Kerry will not waste a minute in bringing action on the reforms urged by the 9/11 commission," McPeak said of the Massachusetts senator nominated by the Democrats this week. "And he will not rest until America's defenses are strong."

The president, on the other hand, "fought against the very formation of the commission and continues to the present moment to give it only grudging cooperation, no matter what he says," the general said. "Why should we believe he will do anything to institute the needed change?"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/31/dems.radio/in...

[Zech Marquis]

41. General McPeak, huh?

yeah I can tell you about him. This guy figured since he was he Big Cheese for the Air Fore in Japan and Korea, he'd go ahead and fly in an F-15--not for combat training mind you, but for visting the various bases a la Top Gun. Not exactly good role model for us dependents to look at back in the late 80s/early 90s :evilgrin:

[Disturbed]

42. Impeachment.

The only reason that Dumbass, Darth Chainy, Rumsfailed haven't been Impeached, thrown out and imprisoned is that there is a Neo Fascist Cabal in the Congress, known as Republicans but in actualty Neo Fascists servants to the Multi-Corps.

The only way a Representative Republic will be restored in Amerika, which is now a Plutocracy, enababled by Neo Fascists, is to vote out the Neo Fascists in Congress, abolish any NAFTA agreements and the WTO!

[roguevalley]

43. Bush and his BS forced, fired and got rid of a lot of our senior

military corps. They were either going to leave, got passed over and forced out or quit rather than put up with it and I for one am GRATEFUL for EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM that speaks truth to BS. Frankly, I don't care why they left. I am glad they are standing up for the military and the country by speaking against the little dictator.

[saracat]

47. Hmmm.Reminds me of Bush and

"Mission Accomplished" except McPeak actually served his country. I'll bet he even flew his own plane!

[Liberal_Dog]

44. Hmmm..

It "means an awful lot" to him that Kerry fought for his country as a young man.

Sounds like a not-so-subtle swipe at *, doesn't it?

[Tight_rope]

45. Well....another high ranking miltary official has turned on Bush!

How many more will it take before all of the military turn on him too.

[goforit]

46. They know * is no commander and chief