Lack of Support (for 10 Commandments) Stuns Visitors

[kskiska]

Many out-of-state visitors taking part in rallies for Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore were asking the same question Friday afternoon -- where is the area support?

Of the estimated 100 demonstrators who gathered outside the Judicial Building at 1 p.m., only a few were from Montgomery. Of the thousands who rallied for Moore a week ago, the majority were from states such as Florida, Mississippi, Illinois, Chicago, Texas, Tennessee and others.

"The church here is asleep. Where are all the people around here," said Gail Roughton of Auburn.

(snip)

"It makes me sad to see more people from Illinois and other states outside of Montgomery," she said. "There should be thousands of people who are from right here."

more…
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/NEWS/StoryAlabamapeoplew823.htm

[DarkPhenyx]

1. Again I ask a simple question.

When did Chicago and Mongomery become states?

[kskiska]

4. Good observation

Of course, the people heavily invested in this situation wouldn't have noticed.

[polmaven]

12. We should all be heavily invested in this!

"The church here is asleep. Where are all the people around here," said Gail Roughton of Auburn.

Maybe, Gail, they are are at home praying that Roy Moore isn't plotting how to force all of their churches to conform to his particular tenets.

Maybe they are at home praying for God to protect them from the Justice Moores of this world, so that days like 9/11 don't happen again.

We all need to be heavily invested in STOPPING this type of fanaticism. This is the very reason the founders included the establishment clause in the first place.


There is speculation that Moore isn't satisfied with his current job, and may be aiming at the Senate. ...GOD HELP US ALL if he is successful! What is the American word for Taliban?

[SharonAnn]

14. It's Talibornagain. The Christian version of Taliban

eom

[TankLV]

16. "republican"

nt

[shockandawed]

2. must be too many good christians there

that also understand how also to be a good american.


People when polled in the south always give the godfearing answer they want their neighbor to hear, but I grew up on the Gulf Coast and I will tell you that there are more paper tiger christians who drink, swear, smoke pot and beat their wives right along with everyone else. The other thing is that southern rural folks, especially of the flock, are REALLY lazy people. I mean, they let others think for them.

In the end, this shows just how deep people's support is for crazies. But in an odd twist, he will win the next governor's race there.

[Wapsie B]

3. That's odd.

Here I was brought up to live my life in accordance with the 10 commandments. And to think all I had to do was post them in a public place.

[AnnabelLee]

5. Hmmm

Maybe the police should start pulling these protesters over & writing "agitator" on their driver's licenses, the same way they did to the out-of-state civil rights workers. What's good for the goose & all that.

[MoonGod]

6. Reminds me of another protest...

http://www.gwbush.com/archive/index-clowns.htm

1. Tom Pyle, office of House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-Tex.);
2. Garry Malphrus, majority chief counsel;
3. Rory Cooper, staff member, National Republican Congressional Committee;
4. Kevin Smith, former House Republican conference analyst;
5. Steven Brophy, former aide to Sen. Fred D. Thompson (R-Tenn.);
6. Matt Schlapp, Bush campaign staff, Austin;
7. Roger Morse, aide to Rep. Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.);
8. Duane Gibson, aide to Chairman Don Young (R-Alaska);
9. Chuck Royal, assistant to Rep. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.);
10. Layna McConkey, former legislative assistant to former Rep. Jim Ross Lightfoot (R-Iowa).

[0007]

23. Thanks for posting

a photo of Tom DeLay's friends. These are the same thugs that are behind the re-districting thingy in Texas.

[Maccagirl]

7. You wouldn't get that impression from CNN

They act like hundreds of thousands are outraged and decending on Alabama.

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. Isn't Alabama smack right in the middle

of the Bible Belt? You would think that AL would be fundie right wing christian central. I guess it's all an illusion.

[scarface2004]

9. 8 out 10 alabamians....

hate the 10'cs and the horse they rode in on according to zogby!

[priller]

10. Maybe the Christians of Alabama

understand that nowhere in the Bible are they commanded to make granite monuments of the 10 Commandments and stick them in government buildings, but on the other hand they are commanded to obey the laws of the land, and the law of our land states that church and state are separate, and individuals are free to worship their own religions. Removing this monument keeps the law, yet in no way infringes on Roy Moore's right to worship. It's pretty damn simple, if you ask me.

[Liberator_Rev]

15. There's a whole thread picking up on this insight

Check it out and kick it if you like.

[liberalhistorian]

17. Exactly!

Very well put, and as a liberal Christian (yes, we do exist, and in far greater numbers than you might think) I'm really disgusted with the total cluelessness and ignorance of the fundies who are descending on Alabama to pray for the right to impose their will and their particular version of Christianity on everyone else.

And as Christians, they should damn well recognize that there are far greater and more important things to deal with and needs of the people to take care of, simple things like helping the homeless, feeding hungry children, etc.

[donco6]

18. Amen.

And I'm not even a Christian. But this I can respect.

[Ouabache]

29. Right you are liberalhistorian

The 10 commandments come from the old testament. Jesus' one and only and greatest commandment was to 'Love One Another'. That is THE Christian commandment. That requires far different things be DONE. More so than than the self-rightous erection of a stone tablet in a government building. Christians are free in this country to carry out Jesus' commandment in the ways you suggested. And more. Not a thing stopping them (us, that is).

ps- Hint #1 for our Christian brother George Bush (if he really is).
You don't 'Love One Another' by declaring war on the world, asshole.

[criticalmass]

11. Isn't it a graven image?

Commandment #2 says not to make any.

[LizW]

13. This was evident in Alabama television broadcasts

and it's not really surprising. As this thing has escalated into a circus and Moore has given one flaky interview after another, I suspect Alabamians have become more and more aware that he is a shameless opportunist. Even Christians who support the 10C being in the state building have to be a little uncomfortable with Moore's obvious posturing and demagoguery.

Fundies from other states can come here and join the zoo, comfortable in the fact that their tax dollars will not have to pay crippling fines, and they will never have to seek justice in a court whose Chief Justice decides cases according to religious dogma rather than the law.

The issue for Alabamians has begun to be less what to do about the monument and more what to do about the rogue judge.

[Code_Name_D]

19. So close, yet so far away from getting a clue. nt

:P

[Gman]

20. Here's a Paranoid Schizophrenic lunatic in Montgomery...

<snip>
Long before Moore was called to task for the monument's removal, Barnard said God spoke to him about the issue.

"I heard the Lord speak to me and say one day I would have to stand up for him (Moore)," Barnard said. "When the call finally came, my heart was already prepared for it."
</snip>

[Khephra]

21. UPDATE

Ten Commandments Supporters Rally On

snip...

Even though Chief Justice Moore was suspended on Friday and has signaled that he will no longer try to block the removal of the Ten Commandments monument he installed in the Alabama Supreme Court, more and more evangelical supporters are streaming into Montgomery to back him.

Today, they worked in shifts, guarding the courthouse doors, distributing petitions, cellular telephones and boxes of Krispy Kreme donuts, and putting the final touches on a demonstration plan that could last three weeks, the duration of their protest permit.

Tracy and Jeff Chastain drove four hours from Chattanooga, Tenn., with their four little girls.

"God made us, so we should love him," said 8-year-old Mariah Chastain, who carried a sign that read, "Will you take our Bibles next?"

more..........

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/24/national/24JUDG.html?ex=1062302400&en=1602d1f1e4a1ad93&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

[opihimoimoi]

22. Where O where are all the People??? If we were to ask, I am sure

IT WOULD BE::: WORKING FOR A FUCKING LIVING.

Taking off to feed some idiots ego is not a good reason. The guy wanted fame, well he got it and now look, lost his Damn job.

There is a god after all.

[rini]

25. rally

The back of the mans tee- shirt at
http://webcenters.compuserve.com/gatewaynet/crime/photosearch.jsp?cap=Ten%20Commandments&w=AP&max=8&first=16&fs=

says it all

it was on the front page of our local paper it says:

homosexuality is a sin

Islam is a lie

abortion is murder

This abomination makes the case for keeping religion out of the political/legal sphere. I have never seen such a hate-filled photo to promote morality. The founding fathers knew what they were doing.

[RMJ]

26. Ahh...maybe that's it...

<snip ...distributing....Krispy Kreme donuts...snip>

Too much sugar. :7

What?? No? OK, fine. They're just nuts.

[BiggJawn]

28. I'll take your damn Bible, Kid...

If you place it in a government building and tell me I have to bow down to it, like your beloved "righteous" Judge Moore is doing with his stone...

Take your book home and read it, Kid. Especially all the stuff Jesus said, NOT that hateful crap in Leviticus.

[area51]

31. Mariah

"'God made us, so we should love him,' said 8-year-old Mariah Chastain, who carried a sign that read, 'Will you take our Bibles next?'"

Poor Mariah, her parents haven't told her about the birds & the bees. Kid, god didn't make you; your parents made you, and your grandparents made your parents. :D



"Statistically speaking, it's easier to get accepted into Harvard University than to get a job in this economy."

--CBS News, 8/1/03

[neomonkey]

24. Because...

You stupid F****G religious freaks, you ARE the fringe of the right and you can't even get the middling Arnold S. ignoramus garden variety voter to care about those goddamned 10 commandments.

D'uh!

[jody]

27. Y'all miss the obvious. Alabamians in general and citizens in

Montgomery don't care about Moore. If you guys from other states had kept your nutcases home, the incident would quickly drop out of sight.

Still, we have freedom of speech and if people from your states want to come to Montgomery and exercise their first amendment right, then come on but be sure and spend plenty of money as tourists, because Alabama is flat busted.

:-)

[Dhalgren]

30. And also,

please clean up after youselves. It is, after all, the state capitol and we want it nice, clean and secular. Thank you.