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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:23 PM
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AP: Lawsuit Gets Bush Guard Papers Out
President Bush (news - web sites) was ranked in the middle of his Air National Guard class and flew more than 336 hours in a fighter jet before letting his pilot status lapse and missing a key readiness drill, according to his flight records belatedly uncovered Tuesday under the Freedom of Information Act.

The Pentagon (news - web sites) and Bush's campaign have claimed for months that all records detailing his fighter pilot career have been made public, but defense officials said they found two dozen new records detailing his training and flight logs after The Associated Press filed a lawsuit and crafted new requests under the public records law.

"Previous requests from other requesters for President Bush's Individual Flight Records did not lead to the discovery of these records because at the time President Bush left the service, flight records were subject to retention for only 24 months and we understood that neither the Air Force nor the Texas Air National Guard retained such records thereafter," the Pentagon told the AP.
"Out of an abundance of caution," the government "searched a file that had been preserved in spite of this policy" and found the Bush records, the letter said. "The Department of Defense (news - web sites) regrets this oversight during the previous search efforts."

The records show Bush, a lieutenant in the Texas Air National Guard, was ranked No. 22 in a class of 53 pilots when he finished his flight training at Moody Air Force Base in Georgia in 1969. Over the next three years, he logged 326.4 hours as a pilot and an additional 9.9 hours as a co-pilot, mostly in his the F-102a jet used to intercept enemy aircraft. The records show his last flight came on April 1972, which is consistent with his pay records that show Bush had a large lapse of duty between April and October of that year, a time he says he went to Alabama to work on an unsuccessful Republican Senate campaign. Bush skipped a required medical exam that cost his pilot's status in August 1972. A six-month historical record of his 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, also turned over to the AP on Tuesday, shows some of the training Bush missed with his colleagues during that time. Significantly, it showed the unit joined a "24-hour active alert mission to safeguard against surprise attack" in the southern United State beginning on Oct. 6, 1972, a time when Bush did not report for duty, according to his pay records. Bush's lone service in October came at another air base an Alabama, where he sought temporary permission to train away from his assigned squadron.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20040907/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_national_guard
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:36 PM
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1. File? File? ...Oh, you mean THAT file.
What a bunch of bullshit. Could the Pentagon be more corrupt? ...wait, that's right it is MORE CORRUPT (e.g., Neo-con Zionist TRAITORS).

America. It used to be a great country.

JB
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:37 PM
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:37 PM
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2. So where's the fuss
being made about the fact that all of these records show that he was AWOL, and that he has consistently lied about it?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:47 PM
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3. in time of war...may be tried at any time without limitation even DEATH

Article 43. STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS


(a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war, or with any offense punishable by death, may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/ucmj/blart-43.htm

peace
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:43 PM
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8. Who can request an investigation in to this? n/t
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 07:58 PM
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4. Well,he stumbled his way to Miami for Nixon's Convention.
Edited on Tue Sep-07-04 07:59 PM by GalleryGod
CSPAN had pics of him sitting behind his DAD whilst Nixon was giving his acceptance speech...so we KNOW where he as for at least 4 days or
:crazy: daze :silly: in August,1972.

Asshole!:spank:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:59 PM
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5. So does this prove he was? AWOL??

Or does this mean that he was so busy doing other things with Poppy?

When does Houdini find the magic paper or is this it?
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biftonnorton Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:29 PM
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6. Hot Damn Tamale, Man!
Good work, AP! Time for the truth to be told with plenty of documentation!
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:37 PM
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7. Top credentials for the Commander-In-Chief of the USA.
Even Hitler served in WWI. Junior was AWOL and a deserter during Vietnam!

:puke:

:evilfrown:

:argh:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 10:21 PM
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9. SHAZAMM!!!!
"...flight records were subject to retention for only 24 months and we understood that neither the Air Force nor the Texas Air National Guard retained such records thereafter," the Pentagon told the AP.
"Out of an abundance of caution," the government "searched a file that had been preserved in spite of this policy" and found the Bush records..."

I wonder who the poor clerk was who had to stick his/her hand up Karl Rove's ass and pull those files out?

Flight records were kept only for 24 months....EXCEPT the ones that show Dumbya actually could get a plane into the air and back down again....

This smells. This smells pretty putrid.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 10:54 PM
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10. duplicate topic
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