CNN: Truck maker will sell giant pickup (OMG! WTF Alert!)

[kysrsoze]

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - For the driver looking for more in a pickup --one that dwarfs the Hummer and the Ford F-350 -- Navistar has just the ride for you.

The CXT, the new monster pickup from heavy truck maker Navistar.
The new CXT -- short for commercial extreme truck and built from the same platform as the heavy-truck maker's typical tow truck or cement mixer -- will be sold starting this week by Navistar's International Truck & Engine subsidiary.

At 258 inches, or 21-1/2 feet long, the CXT is about 4-1/2 feet longer than the new Hummer H2 pickup, and about 2 inches longer than the F-350 Crew Cab. But the way it really towers over what's on the road now is in height. At 108 inches, or 9 feet, the CXT stands only a foot below a basketball rim and more than two feet above the Hummer or the F-350.

"It's not going to fit into the standard garage," said Mark Oberle, a spokesman for Navistar, based in Warrenville, Ill., outside Chicago. "We can see it as a vehicle for business people who want to make a distinct impression. For personal use, it's for people who want to make a statement."

(snip)

Buyers will also have to have a fair amount of money to fill it up --it's projected to get between 6 and 10 miles per gallon of diesel fuel.



http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/13/pf/autos/monster_truck/index.htm?cnn=yes

It weighs 14,000 lbs. on an empty gas tank! This is fucking ridiculous, stupid and dangerous. Imagine some asshole tailgater in this thing. The truck should be banned. Of course, Georgie Porgie et al will love it. Notice the four-wheelers in the bed.

[veteran_for_peace]

1. Men who buy this truck have disappointed wives

The are coming up short.

[LynneSin]

50. and probably small penises to boot

:eyes:

[PartyPooper]

74. Do you mean wives like Maria Shriver Schwarzenegger?

Because I'll just bet you that her husband, Arnold, has already put in an order for one of these behemoths! Who knows? He may have even ordered a fleet of a dozen!

Doesn't he own six Hummers?

[Bhaisahab]

124. men who have huge bodies

have small dicks.

[MeinaShaw]

140. It aint men that are going to buy it.

Well, men won't by all of them. Hey, a soccer mom has got to be safe with the kids.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. how many tank drivers

have a class C licence?

GOD they are stupid!

[bahrbearian]

58. You mean class A ,, Class C is a motor vehicle license

I've got mine with a Hazmat endorsement.. I could pull around a BIG
Propane Bar-B-Que and a large tank of gas with some Fertilizer Lets go camping Mama.

[Larkspur]

3. If people want a huge truck, why don't they buy a semi or mack truck?

[kysrsoze]

5. What scares me is this thing "only" costs about $100K

It's within the reach of a lot of idiots.

[hatrack]

14. I'm sure the Hummer tax deduction would apply here

Just so long as you're using it for your flower delivery business, or to squire potential buyers to and from model homes in your new subdivision.

[Yuna]

115. Is that new?

Who knows what it will be used... especially 3-4 years from now.

[lectrobyte]

6. I think that is basically a semi-truck with a pickup cab and bed on it<nt>

[northzax]

31. even worse, it's a DUMP TRUCK

people will be driving around town in a converted Garbage Truck. I think they should issue gloves and an orange jump-suit so they can really mock the hard working men and women who really drive these things.

gee, I should call GEICO and see what it would cost to insure this puppy!

[hatrack]

35. I'd be tempted to take a dump on one, if it parked on my street

This is without a doubt the stupidest fucking thing I have ever seen Detroit do. Forget GM's early 1980s passenger diesels. Forget the Chrysler Cordoba, with reech Coreenthian laayther. Forget the Cadillac Cimmaron, the Ford Excursion and the Dodge Viper.

Nothing can even approach this for 100% all-American bullshit value.

[Thor_MN]

95. At 7 tons, it's illegal on most residential streets

At least around here. If one of my neighbors were to get one (not very likely) I would be dropping a dime on them. I'm not into paying for the damage these things do to pavement.

Take a look where your street leaves a major road, there's likely a sign saying restricted vehicles under to X tons, with X going down to 3 on some roads - making even H2s illegal.

[Xithras]

32. Actually it's a tow truck with a pickup cab.

They are sold under the International name, and you can already see them on the roads with tow truck beds. These things are huge, but they're not quite the size of a big rig.

[lojasmo]

64. This is a semi truck....International.

I've seen one, they're beautiful.....but I'm a diesel freak.

[daleo]

4. I have a friend who is a long haul trucker

I have been saying to him for a few years now, that eventually every suburban family will want an eighteen wheeler, just like his, the way things are going. It looks like they have the cab now - just need the van to be modified for the suburbs. I wonder if this one has a sleeper?

On edit - put a reefer on this and you can use it to bring home a dozen dozen dozen eggs.

[WVhill]

136. Similar trucks have been on the market for years. I wouldn't get excited.

Freightliner sells a similar truck that many buy to pull horse trailers. The only difference is that Navistar chose to put a distinct pickup bed on the back. The Freightliners have a more abbreviated bed heightwise. If you look at it closely you can see it's really a pickup of sorts. Because of commercial licensing requirements, the truck probably has vacuum over hydraulic brakes instaed of air brakes.

I wouldn't worry about the Navistars taking over the highways. They're not as maneuverable as the family SUV. You're not going to fit it into a regular parking space not to mention a normal garage. The engine is probably a DT466 which is a 400+ cu in. six cylinder that's been around since the 70's. When you change the oil in one of those you're not talking quarts, you're talking gallons. Likewise the tires, if you buy cheap ones, will run you at least $800 a set. With tires that size you can at least buy top notch Bandag caps, not available for cars, for the rears which will save you a couple of hundred.

The nice thing about a truck like that is with reasonable care you can run it many hundreds of thousands of miles before pulling the engine.

[Carni]

7. I saw this in the AM on CNN

That dorky bald finance type bastard and Cafferty thought it was really cool...

The bald F wondered if Arnuuuuld would "get himself one of those babies"

It was so vile I wanted to shoot the TV.

The worst part is that aberation of a truck, I am sure... fits the bill for that farm equipment tax loophole--the people buying those will basically get all their money back in a write off.

[arcos]

33. I hate Cafferty

:puke:

[Carni]

71. I hate everyone on that morning show

Heidi Collins, Cafferty the bald finance dork--they all suck.

[shawn703]

105. Well, at least Heidi's pretty cute

But I still agree with your statement ;)

[catzies]

8. I'm sure buyers will get tax breaks just like Hummer buyers

:eyes:

[MercutioATC]

9. No problem. Just make all drivers of this thing carry CDL's.

(Commercial Driver's Licenses)

If they can handle a tractor-trailer, they can handle this.

[alphafemale]

57. I agree completely eom

[0007]

10. junior will give a bigger tax break, cuz it's a big one folks

[RT Atlanta]

11. ROAD HAZARD

Look out for folks in anything with less than a 12000lb gross vehicle weight. What the fuck is happening to our country people?!? Bigger is not always better.

How about more fuel efficient?

[JohnnyMackeral]

12. THis is ridiculous

I cant believe they would build a big red pile of crap like this what about mother earth?

[kysrsoze]

16. Hmmm....wonder what it would look like with some nice 32" spinner wheels

Pimpin'

[wryter2000]

23. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[patdem]

13. You know, if you drove this commercially you would pay extra taxes because

of the wear and tear on the roads. If this becomes a consumer item...there needs to be that little extra tax on the consumer because of the effects of that vehicle on the roads!!!

This is getting out of hand!!! Damn it...if I can't have a shoulder fired atomic bomb...I want to know WHY damn it...it is MY RIGHT!!!

:grr:

[Politicub]

15. Head's up!

Small cock alert!!

:eyes:

[Isere]

47. Ain't it the truth!

However, Wonkette wouldn't approve of your placing Kerry's photo along side your comments!

LOL!

[bahrbearian]

62. LOL sometime's those avitars can confuse ya !!

[Politicub]

87. LOL!

I didn't mean to imply that.

:hangover:

Doh!

[obiwan]

144. I wouldn't worry about small dicks with this one...

... only the small-minded DICKHEADS who are going to buy these.

[steely]

17. Just smile and wave at them at the gas station.

Local news did a piece when the gas was goin' up - they interviewed people at the pumps. One dope in a Yukon or whatever actually said she could only put 10 bucks in it.

What a Moran.

[FlemingsGhost]

18. So what's the "statement" they are trying to make?

"I'm an insecure, overcompensating man-child."

Or maybe it is:

"I couldn't give a shit about anything but my own self-centered whims ... and it's more than likely I'm a Republican."

Let them announce their ignorance folks. This vehicle will serve as a "scarlet letter" for the more intelligent to identify those who are truly the problem.

[kysrsoze]

20. I'm sure we'll see Bush/Cheney stickers on them.

[obiwan]

145. I'll bet you could land an F-16 in the bed.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

86. So what's the "statement" they are trying to make?

If you invade and occupy an oil rich nation.... your manufacturers can do pretty much what the f they want.....

[DelawareValleyDem]

19. Oh, Goody!!

Now I can show up my neighbor with the Excursion.:eyes:

A seven ton vehicle being sold for 'personal use'. It just gets worse and worse.

[obiwan]

146. Auto industry nickname for the Excursion is "Fordasaurus."

[ChrisK]

21. My personally favorite part is

the gas miliage...six to ten miles a gallon :crazy:

The "must have" for the Bush Base

[DelawareValleyDem]

26. On diesel fuel, no less

[Snivi Yllom]

55. diesels are more efficient FYI

http://autorepair.about.com/cs/faqs/l/bl207g.htm

Diesel engines get better fuel economy simply because they do not need to burn as much fuel as a gas engine to get the same power. Diesel engines are also built heavier than a gas engine to sustain the added stress of the higher compression ratio. Diesel engines do not have an ignition system so you will never have to tune them up. Exhaust systems last longer because diesel fuel exhaust is not as corrosive a gasoline engine exhaust.

It is not unusual to see a diesel engine with 400,000, 500,000 and I have even seen them go as much as 600,000 miles.

The down side is they are fairly noisy. You will get the typical diesel clatter at idle, but that goes away off idle. At normal driving speeds they are as quiet as a gasoline engine. You won't get the same acceleration that you get from a gasoline engine. But a turbo diesel will get up and go fairly quickly. You will need to adjust your driving habits somewhat also.

As for maintenance, 3,000 mile oil changes are a must! Diesel fuel is not as refined as gasoline and the oil will get dirtier than a gasoline engine. I recommend replacing air and fuel filters once a year. If you live in a cold climate, you will need to switch to a winter blend fuel to prevent fuel gelling. There are additives you can put in the fuel to help prevent this as well.

[Radius]

59. Diesel Rules

I run b20 in my f-250 (that I use for my job). You can't tow big stuff with a prius.

The only efficient use for this vehicle is to tow large trailers.
"horse people" use similar looking vehicles already for towing rigs. Some of these folks have CDLs and full sized tractor trailer rigs.

Banning a vehicle is stupid. Lets ban 1100 cc motorcycles because they can go 200mph. Hummers because they are gas guzzlers..etc.

If you don't like it, don't buy it..

[leesa]

68. And diesel pollutes...massively!

Most people could rent a truck for the rare occasions they need to haul something. All I ever see are giant, EMPTY trucks running around with one driver in them.

[Radius]

72. B20

45 percent of cars in Europe are diesel. They are much more efficient than gas. Modern diesels do not spout black smoke. And they run for ever. My friend has a 79 Mercedes 240d with more than 500,000 miles on. Still going strong..

I run 20%synthetic (plant oil)fuel and 50% when I can find it. I could run %100 but don't want to turn my garage into a refinery.

You can't tow equipment with a prius. My diesel truck gets better gas mileage than many cars do.

Biodiesel cuts down massively on the sulfur and particulate emissions from a diesel motor.

[Thor_MN]

99. I only see one person talking about banning it....

Everyone else seems content to ridicule it and know that only idiots will buy it. Someone seems to have gotten up on the wrong side of the gas pump this morning - must have gotten up too oily...

[kysrsoze]

67. You'd be amazed at what they can do with a diesel

Mercedes, Audi and BMW have performance diesels that really move. The Mercedes gets mileage in the 40's. Volvo built a turbodiesel wagon in the 1980's that got 100mpg and did 0-60 in 8 seconds. No kidding. Read it in Popular Mechanics.

[Radius]

73. The

VW diesel gets the same gas actual milage as the hybrids do. And they have a much longer life than the average gas engine.

45 percent of cars in europe are diesel for a reason.

Biodiesel is also a signifigant move away from petro based fuel.

[LibLabUK]

126. Audi's A8..

The BBC show Top Gear managed to make the run from London to Edinburgh and back on one tank of diesel in the new Audi A8. That's over 800 miles on one tank of fuel. Audi themselves didn't think it was possible to do this.

The A8 has a 90 litre (22.5 Gallon) tank so, this equates to 8.88mpl (35.5mpg) in actual driving conditions.

And this is a big luxury car with a 3 litre engine.

That's pretty amazing.

[DelawareValleyDem]

123. Uh, I think that

was my point there. Even with a more efficient engine, the gas mileage is poor. One point you didn't mention was the smell.

[Radius]

133. B20

Smells like popcorn, no shit.

[macllyr]

129. Zafira Diesel in Europe

I live in Europe. I own an Opel/Ford/Vauxhall/Chevrolet Zafira
(7-seater 2.2l DTI engine 125HP turbo diesel). Doing mainly
mixed Higway/city driving, I make 35-40 mpg. With 5 adults and
their luggage aboard, at a constant 85 mph and with AC on, I
made 37 mpg on a 500 miles trip. I have to change the oil
every 19,000 miles (30,000 km) or every year. Also, there is a
particule filter on the exhaust. This engine is far from
belonging to the last generation of common-rail diesels. In
fact it is just a (very well optimized) high-pressure pump-fed
16 valve turbo diesel. The 4th generation common rails are 30%
more efficient and use 2000 atm fuel injection....
By the way OPEL (German) is owned by Ford (American/German),
which is itself owned by Chevrolet. Why is this car (or
similar ones) not sold in the US?

[Kellanved]

132. Opel is owned by GM since 1929

Ford has it's own German subsidiary: Ford Germany (founded 1929 AFAIR).

[obiwan]

148. Let's not forget about the particulate emissions...

... like asbestos on the lungs but more insidious.

[Radius]

157. Particulates

are measured in micron sizes. Smaller micron particulates like those in asbestos, a carcinogen, and pre mix concrete vs larger particulates from wood smoke or diesel soot are handled differently by the body and harder to expel. The sulfur content in diesel determines its output of soot. Modern diesel motors are much cleaner than those produced 10 years ago.

The thing with diesel is that the entire commercial fleet runs them. Making inroads in diesel technology, biodiesel for example, can make large changes in the pollution levels in a short time.

B20 reduces particulates up to 40 percent, in a new diesel this meets or exceeds epa standards by a large margin.

[GreatScott]

22. Does it come with a DVD player?

[kysrsoze]

24. Yes, it's an option as is leather.

:puke:

[obiwan]

149. For 100 large, you better get the leather AND the dominatrix.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

117. No.

The actual band plays in the bed. BONUS! The arena-sized crowd comes along with them for free.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. Appeals to those who don't want the Iraq war dead to have died in vain. nt

[ima_sinnic]

27. "people who want to make a statement"

--yeah, that they are total dumbasses.

when I see a man driving something like that, or a Hummer, or a "monster" truck or even an expensive sports car, I figure he is into superficial things and shallow as hell. like boring and also totally insecure about himself. with misplaced priorities. probably can't even read.

oh, and potatoes should never be stuck in tailpipes . . . :eyes:

[sffreeways]

28. It's a Semi

I just laughed out loud when I saw it. Oh I can see it now in my GEO rear view mirror just before it drives over me to pass.

If they would just mount an assault weapon on it they could call it the Ford Republican.

[DelawareValleyDem]

29. Does that make

people who hate this truck Anti-Semites?:-)

[sffreeways]

36. Teehee

I'm in the Delaware Valley too... Boothwyn :hi: Heya !

[Xithras]

30. Oh, this should be entertaining.

At 14,000 lbs, this thing will crack peoples driveways as they try to park, and many CXT drivers will find themselves banned from many bridges and residential streets. Personally, my street has a 9,000 lb weight limit, and I can GUARANTEE that if any of my neighbors bought one of these, they'd be getting ticketed daily.

The article also says that this thing is apparently built on the same frame as the International tow trucks, meaning that it's not designed for performance or emergency handling (sudden turns will flip this thing on its side, and its AIR BRAKES provide very little feedback to the driver). For all practical purposes, it'll be like driving a big rig.

It's a shame that CDL's aren't required until the vehicle hits the 26,000 lb mark:eyes:

[JohnyCanuck]

34. Wanna know what the SUV lovers will be driving in a few years?

[Chovexani]

37. Why don't they just call it the Ford Compensator

Or the Ford Tinyprick.

[arikara]

139. Or the Ford Falicksymbol

;)

[obiwan]

150. It should be a Lincoln...

... you know, they have the Mountaineer and the Aviator...
...call this one the Masturbator (as it will only be driven by jerkoffs)

[lapfog_1]

38. This baby really makes a statement!

Uh... and I think the stmt it makes is:

I don't believe in Peak Oil.

I don't believe in Global Warming.

I don't believe in Evolution.

I'm living proof.

[FlemingsGhost]

39. Meanwhile, liberals are buying hybrids, biking etc.

Uh huh ... the "responsible adults" are in charge.

I say, for every one of these monsters you buy, you must sign enlistment papers for your son or daughter to go fight in the Middle East.

(on edit: typo)

[Bo]

114. Biking & Walking for 7 Years...Thank You

[denverbill]

40. Cities need to start banning these fucking things.

I'm tired of hearing assholes with 200 decibel diesel trucks driving down through my quiet residential neighborhood. And if one of these assholes backs up into my driveway, I'll sue his ass to stressing the concrete.

[Xithras]

45. Many already do

Check the weight limits on your local streets. As I said in a different post here, my residential street has a 9,000 lb weight limit and I will certainly be calling the police to complain if any of my neighbors pulls one of these things into their driveway.

I have both a long haul truck driver and a tow truck driver that live on my street, and I've had to turn them in before when they refused to stop driving them down my street. Unless there was a police emergency somewhere, the police always responded reasonably and ticketed them for bringing overweight vehicles down residential streets. The tow truck driver quit bringing his truck home with him, and the truck driver began parking in a commercial area a few blocks away. I've also heard of this tactic being used against rude neighbors with oversized motor homes parked on the street, moving trucks that are parked on the street for days at a time, and even oversized UPS trucks on particularly narrow roads.

Find out what your local weight limits are, and make your local police ENFORCE THEM. If your town has no weight limits, find a city councilman and request to have their implementation put on the next agenda. Then attend the next meeting with 100 of your closest liberal friends and force the issue.

[TwentyFive]

135. Good Idea

I hate all these butt hole republican types with their oversized SUVs and phony macho image.

[LSK]

41. the oil companies love these things

Meanwhile peak oil continues to get closer everyday. Europe will really be laughing at the US when that time comes.

[Swamp Rat]

42. Whoever buys one, I will call "un-patriotic"

We are fighting a resource war and these assholes want us to drive behemoth-sized gas guzzlers? Is this what Americans are dying for, so that dickless republicans can own a shiny red truck?

[Xipe Totec]

43. I'll Wait For the Stretch Limo Version

with the RPG gun rack and sunroof mounted missile silo. :eyes:

[northstar]

46. ROFLMAO

n/t

[Triana]

44. men with small penises...

...gotta compensate somehow, I guess..

:evilgrin:

[MeinaShaw]

141. My husband calls it penis envy

That's when he see a women driving a giant SUV.

[Valkyrie55]

48. Things that make you go hmmmm

I guess the bright side is that they only expect to sell about 50 of these monsters in the first year. Of course if they took all the steel and other supplies it will take to make those 50 they could probably produce 250 hybrid cars. But hey that just wouldn't be as much fun now would it?

[The Straight Story]

49. The terrorist's choice in 5 years

For ramming into our embassies and such....

[Ilsa]

51. I think I want to move out into the country where we have limits

on tonnage for bridges, roads, etc. That would keep them off my farm road!

Some people need more in their lives. They think they are going to get it with this, but they'll still be empty inside.

[K. F. Gibbons]

52. for men with small wee wees.

[saigon68]

160. kick

[Snivi Yllom]

53. but can I mount my 50 cal semi autos on the hood

Just for hunting quail of course.

I suppose this thing would cause significant fender damage in a collision.

[TrogL]

54. For the love of God.....why??

Where are you supposed to park it? Many parking lots don't allow trucks beyond a certain axle weight.

Do people know enough to repave their driveways to take the extra load?

[depakid]

56. How sick is this statement:

"We can see it as a vehicle for business people who want to make a distinct impression. For personal use, it's for people who want to make a statement."

This kind of thing makes me hope gas goes up to 4 and 5 dollars a gallon.

[The_Casual_Observer]

60. Freepers take out mortgages on their homes to buy shit like this

Let them wear the fucking hair shirt for all I care.

[The_Casual_Observer]

61. Freepers take out mortgages on their homes to buy shit like this

Let them wear the fucking hair shirt for all I care.

[slackmaster]

63. It will look great parked next to my Kenworth Pilgrimage SUV

[nolabels]

65. Them things are P.O.S's (can I laugh now)

I work on a vesion them IH things all the time, they are fraught with defects and gliches. The only thing they could compete with is a large milk carton on wheels.

Nothing to fear from them things becoming trendy

[kysrsoze]

82. Well, the Hummer is a P.O.S. too and they sell like mad

H2 is the worst truck on the road for repairs and they sold 40,000 of them. You know some morons are going to buy them - especially given the huge tax loopholes.

[FlemingsGhost]

84. Link?

"Well, the Hummer is a P.O.S. too and they sell like mad"

Actually, last I heard Hummers rusting in the lots ... some of which were conveniently being torched (by ELF, supposedly.)

[nolabels]

90. Thank goodness I don't have to work on any Hummers

Them IH models are bad enough :scared:

Really though, if your one of those soccer moms, I am sure you could get one of these http://www.freightliner.com/brands/sprinter.asp Vans outfitted to carry the team and most of the people on the bleachers. B-)

[Elginoid]

137. i don't know...

the service aea at the hummer shop in schaumburg looks sweet!

[leesa]

66. Americans are soooooo stupid! Do they think this will make

peak oil go away if they pretend it's not happening?? Or , most likely, are the filthy oil/US car companies just making a killing while they still can.

No wonder so many Americans buy foreign when all they can come up with is garbage like this.

[randr]

69. Tax Dodgers must be lining up!

[Radius]

70. Horse People

Already use F-650 vehicles to tow trailers, well over 8 tons. No one in their right mind will buy a vehicle with a true commercial diesel for a daily driver, the maintenance is significant and expensive. I drive a f250 for my (side)job and to move farm stuff and it is a positive bitch in the city.

I'm more concerned when I see soccer mommy in a Ryder (I've never driven a fucking pickup never mind a rig before in my life) truck on the cell. Much more common than this ever will be. At least they paint them yellow.

Don't overreact.

[FlemingsGhost]

75. Horseshit.

"Horse people" are getting along fine without these monsters.

And if you read the article, that is not the target audience.

[Radius]

78. Stupid People

Are the target market then. Operating heavy diesels is expensive.

But it is a free country, so if someone wants a hummer, Ferrari, or hayabusa let them have it.

Like I said soccer mommy, or any idiot who has never driven a large truck, on the cell in a rented Ryder truck is more likely to punch your ticket than this thing. Dodged this bullet more than once. They may sell 50, how many yellow battering rams do you see..Law of averages wins every time..

[FlemingsGhost]

81. We are defintely in agreement, but ...

please refrain from presenting arguements that this thing has some purpose or need, other than to stroke the egos of the fragile American mind.

The "it's not that bad" shtick is insulting.

[Radius]

85. It isn't that bad.

Until we live in a socialist/communist country if a moron wants to spend big bucks on a useless vehicle they are FREE to do so.

If it can tow more than a f350 it has a use, maybe not to you, but to someone.

choice is nice.

[FlemingsGhost]

88. Return of the "Ugly American."

Let me remind you, we live on a planet where there are other nations besides the U.S. A world where there is limit resources, and an ecosystem that ALL citizens share.

Your comment embodies the very concepts of ignorance and self-centeredness. The company that manufactures these things, love folks like you.

Again, read the article and tell me again who exaclty they are targeting for sales ...

[Radius]

89. Ahh here we go

I live in the United States and until the LAW changes stupid people can buy whatever vehicle they want. That is the target market.

Ban Fountain boats, who needs a boat with two 400hp motors that suck gas at a rate much faster than a fleet of these. And fishing boats, two cat diesels, 150 gallons in a DAY. Bet start you ban list..

What do you drive, you live in a house you heat with wood? Drink well water? Drive a vehicle on bio fuel?

I guarantee I live greener than you do. So unless you are posting from a mud hut in Africa you are out of line.

Give me a break with the holier than thou bullshit.

My comment embodies freedom of choice in a free economy.

[FlemingsGhost]

91. LOL

"I guarantee I live greener than you do."

You don't know a damned thing about me, and your making guarantees.

And who's "holier than thou"?

Good night, Radius. We're through ...

[Radius]

93. Law of averages

just like you are more likely to get smoked by a soccer mom in a Ryder truck than this thing, you are less likely to:

Heat your house and water with wood you cut and split. It grows back faster than I can cut it.
Drive a biodiesel vehicle and run it in farm equipment.
Ride a bike to work or drive a motorcycle that gets 60 mpg or more, weather permitting.
Drink well water and collect rain water to use in toilets and for irrigation (this was a particular pain in the ass, but works.
I even have a neato little windmill that will trickle charge my battery in the winter.
Solar isn't that effective in my latitude or I could light my whole house with 12volt dc or invert to 120 where necessary.

Like I said 90+ percent of people don't do this because it is a pain in the ass and costs more, just making a bet.

Want to flip your cards?

[FlemingsGhost]

101. Nope. I don't play that game. Especially on an online forum.

Let me tell you about my 12" penis, instead.

See what I'm getting at? I believe your presence on this site is not completely sincere, therefore any personal information is suspect too.

Try again.

[Radius]

106. Your call

Nice dodge..But point taken.

You dont want to take my word fine. I could post pictures but I could just photoshop those too, right.

But that still leaves the original argument, this is a free country and people can buy a big obnoxious vehicle if they want to. How this is more dangerous than a Ryder truck is my question?

Banning a vehicle is stupid. Not buying it is a good way to deal with it. It is a moronic thing to own, so is a Hummer IMHO. Ill suited for any real use, towing, etc.

I choose not to own a vehicle like that, but why should I support banning it for someone else.

If you really don't like them you can go burn a lot full of them.

[FlemingsGhost]

109. Actually, I believe the original argument was ...

that vehicles like these are harmful to the citizens of all countries, free or otherwise. That was before *you* ducked and dodged.

As for criminal destruction of private property ... I don't play that game, either. Nice innuendo, though.

(on edit: typos)

[Thor_MN]

113. The only one talking about bans is Don Quixote

Do you also joust your neato windmill?

[Radius]

134. You can

get one from west marine and give it a shot...

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&classNum=577&subdeptNum=544&storeNum=9&productId=82682

Mine was cheaper..

As for the vehicle, yeah it is pretty stupid, but just don't buy one.

Actual harm would be tough to make out, 50 -100 limited run vehicle. May want to divert your attention to real environmental issues.

[obiwan]

151. The only hummer I want has nothing to do with motor vehicles.

[Kitsune]

76. The largest noninvasive penile implant yet! *nt*

[FlyByNight]

77. Looks like a friggin' Peterbuilt semi!

For what possible reason could anyone want to own this monstrosity?

[kysrsoze]

83. Is this the Maibatsu Monstrosity from GTA3?

[Ohio rules]

96. Peterbuilt Semi's = Union Jobs also. I know Ford worker$

$ee the plus side of that Mini Semi.

Look at it !
I'm sure that this mini semi could have trucking industry applications.
Pulling 20 ft flat bed trailers looks like a cake walk. ( err.. drive through the park ? )

[PatGund]

79. Dang......

Wouldn't Viagra be cheaper??

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

80. The Return of the International Scout!

The predecessor company of Navistar..International Harvester...made one of the orginal SUVs...the deliciously minimalist & utilitarian Scout.

Unfortunatly they stopped production due to economic problems in the early 80s, so they missed out on the SUV craze. I saw a concept car version of the Scout at a history museum in Fort Wayne (where they used to make' em)....way ahead of its time.

But now it looks like Navistar is getting back into the market...

[democrank]

92. The CXT is absolutely perrrrrrrfect for Bush`s America.

Big, ballsy, don`t-get-in-my-way-or-I`ll-run-you-over kinda truck. Plenty of room for hoods, machine guns, pin-up posters, graffiti paint, bar bells, studded wristlets.

It`ll show `em who`s boss on the highway and leave all those lesser rigs in the dust. Mine is bigger than yours, you`re a wussie. YEEEEEE-HAAAAAA.

Nuke Iraq, screw France, who needs the United Nations truck.

[Ohio rules]

94. JOBS ! UNION JOBS UNION JOBS JOBS JOBS !!!

LOL
this god damn thing ROCKS



Whisky bottle...
Brand new car...

OAK Tree your in my way ! ;)

[Rex]

97. HELL YA! I'm gonna line mine with AK-47 gun racks and 'fill er up"!

YEEHAA!!!

[Generator]

98. I guess they missed the "peak oil" memo

[Elginoid]

100. This will appeal to A LOT of people...

there are a lot of "wannabe truckers" out there- who dream about drivin' a big rig on the open road, but never got the opportunity.
I'm not one, and i'm not saying that it's a major chunk of the populace, but there's obviously a market for it, or they wouldn't have built it.
Actual truckers may find it very appealing as well.
It's no worse than the dunderheads who spend umpteen thousands on high-powered sports cars, or expensive luxury sedans. To each their own, is the way i look at it- if they've got the money to buy it and keep it up and running, more power to them.
as someone else here pointed out- it'll definitely mean jobs for some people.

[PartyPooper]

102. Please don't tell me that the 'candy apple' colour of the truck pictured

is of no significance. Of course, it is!

My wise father used to say, "People who drive red cars and trucks are aggressive folks...they drive recklessly and fast."

Time and again, I've witnessed this to be true. And, this new super truck will be no exception!

Flame away, but, it's true!

:evilfrown:

[Rochambeau]

103. LOL Absolutly ugly !! n/t

[Geo55]

104. yep.....

fits right into the "look how cool an' BIG I am" agenda for the clueless n' careless.

[TheDonkey]

107. Holy shit this truck maker has lost it's fucking mind!

Why the hell do people need to drive mini-tractor trailer.
This is beyond stupid but I guess we can all thank the astronomicgas prices to keep these monstrocities nearly unsellable.

[obiwan]

152. Yessir I definitely want some of what these guys are taking.

[camero]

108. Don't forget the mud flaps

with the naked lady on it. A matching accessorie. I'd love to hear the neighbors when they start that up at 6am.

It's made by International Trucks, which means it'll run like shit too.

[obiwan]

153. A Slim Whitman tape would be nice...

... maybe the one they played in "Mars Attacks!"

[Tiberius]

110. RWAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH

Sorry, but I love it. I love it for its social effects; I could out-testosterone you if you were in my neighborhood. Think of the confusion that could cause in Freeperville.

I just wish the gas mileage weren't so high...

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

111. At first impression it seems like a dumb assed vehicle

Then again can it be any worse than some of the RVs on the road? These are usually driven by some blue hair that can barely drive and end up backing up traffic for miles.

[theHandpuppet]

112. "It's for people who want to make a statement" ??

Like what? I'm all out of Viagra but this is the next best thing for my penile inadequacy disorder? Give that bubba some blue pills, an assault weapon and a truck the size of a cement mixer!

Jeezil, what is it with American society when so many men feel so friggin' insecure about their masculinity they have to run around like the Terminator on a mission? No wonder "Old Europe" thinks we're totally nuts!

[Gregorian]

116. It's the logical conclusion to the car crazed mentality.

Shuttle the kids every day in their private Peterbuilt. I already hate the idiots who create the daily crisis over at the local school. The dorks can't even walk a half mile. In fact, I have neighbors who literally drive their car to the neighbors house. Talk about lazy assholes.

It's all how you use it. Here's my beast (And it's even four wheel drive. 24,000 pounds, dry). I can lift stinkin cars out of my way. I am pardoned, because I LOVE CATS! :)

[On the Road]

118. Looks Like a "Canyonero"

once again life imitates the Simpsons.

[DoNotRefill]

119. My uncle might buy one...

his current dually F350 ain't cutting it...of course, he pulls his (pretty big) house with it...

[TXDemGal]

120. Statement: I'm an unsurpassed as@hole

with a little tiny dick

[Dem2theMax]

121. OK, I seriously think it's time for the 'weenie patrol.'

We need to get little plastic weenies -
(small HOT DOGS, git yer minds out of the gutter! ;) )

And these plastic weenies should have the following written on them:

"Over compensating for my small weenie" or some such saying -- I'm sure DU'ers can come up with something far better. lol.

Then we need to put them on the antenna of every single gas hog in the country. I mean, we'd just be doing our part for conservation, right? :evilgrin:

[JSJ]

122. hey, didn't a couple of us predict this in the lounge some mos ago? nt

[arwalden]

125. These Are Great For Pulling The Large 5th-Wheel RV's

I've seen similar "consumer" versions like this at a few RV parks. There is a market for these types of vehicles and it's not all just for show or small-penis-compensation.

-- Allen

[saigon68]

127. For personal use, it's for people who want to make a statement."

The statement is, "I have money and you peasants can go fuck yourselves."

[sofa king]

128. I've got that puny thing beat.

I'm afraid compression has killed my little tag-line. It says,

People who know size matters know the Hummer H5. 28.3 tons of carrying capacity. More cubic feet of space than your college dorm room. Visibility good enough to see traffic on the overpass ahead of you. They call it compensation. You call it augmentation.

[obiwan]

154. And enough room for the "W-04" sticker too! Righteous!

[LTR]

130. My God! It's a big red penis!

Whoever buys that ugly thing must have some serious issues.

[tom_paine]

131. We are insane. The nation has been driven clinically insane

There is no end to what we are capable of.

Any people that purposefully disconnected to reality
Any people so easy to lie to and deceive
Any people who, even when they know they are being lied to about important matrters and don't give a shit
Any people like the Imperial Subjects of Amerika

When Uncle Karl and the Busheviks decide to take things "to the next level" of Totalitarian Tyranny, they will find many willing helpers.

Many more will look on disinteretsedly for entertainment value.

Many more will imply be afraid and remain silent.

What does this monster truck have to do with that?

Just another symptom of National Schizophrenia.

[obiwan]

155. And if you try to flee to Canada they will crush your....

... tiny little foreign car like a beer can.

[Odd Little Man]

138. This isn't fair!!!

Which do I buy; this great truck or some new assault weapons? Decisions, decisions...

[JSJ]

147. just get a vehicle mount for your 50-cal and then 'no worries' nt

[Dover]

142. These people ought to be run over and left as road kill.

This thing shouldn't even be on the road unless it's hauling freight.

[obiwan]

143. At last! A vehicle capable of annihilating a Hummer!...

...an added bonus: it gets REALLY SHITTY gas mileage.

A true Repugnobile that makes a Hummer look like a used condom.

Where's the machine gun mounts? And no place for the anchor!

[Spider Jerusalem]

156. "for people who want to make a statement"?

What sort of statement would that be? Something like "Hello, I am a buffoon with no taste! I could've gotten a Mercedes-Benz S500 or BMW 760, but instead I bought this truck!" At least, that's the statement it would make to me...

[saigon68]

158. kick

[Maleficus]

159. What the hell???????

Why would anyone need a truck like that???? Not only does it only six to ten miles per gallon of gas, it weighs seven tons!!!! Imagine if that crashed into someone who was driving a Prius! The Prius would be totaled!!!

"For personal use, it's for people who want to make a statement." What statement is that? Is it "I'm an insecure bald male and my penis is only an inch long"?

Geez!

:eyes: :grr: