Supreme Court rejects Commandments case (Roy Moore is still fired)

[underpants]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apwashington_story.asp?category=1154&slug=Scotus%20Ten%20Commandments

WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court rejected an appeal Monday from ousted Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who lost his job after defying a federal order to dismantle a Ten Commandments monument.

A federal judge ruled that Moore violated the Constitution's ban on government promotion of religion when he placed the monument in the rotunda of the judicial building in the middle of the night in 2001.

Moore's lawyers had called on the Supreme Court to "remedy this travesty of justice" and give him his job back. The high court declined, without comment.

[DarkPhenyx]

1. I'd scream dupe

except I didn't post this in LBN.

[GOPFighter]

2. These idiots!

These people have every right to post the Ten Commandments in their homes, on their windows, in their yards, on the side of their cars, in front of their churches, and in the businesses they own. They could get together with nine of their neighbors and post one Commandment each like Burma Shave signs if they really wanted the keep them in the public's eye.

So why the f*** don't they? They insist on posting them on PUBLIC property because they know it's illegal. They know the government must object, thus making the government look anti-God and ant-religion. Mission Accomplished!

:grr:

[shaolinmonkey]

3. That's what I don't understand. The government isn't closing churches.

They aren't being oppressed. Why can't they accept the fact that they don't have the right to ram their religion down the throats of others?

Please see the first amendment, morans.

[GliderGuider]

4. Their objectives run much deeper

and are much more sinister. They need to get the government behind their religion if they're ever going to have the theocracy they crave. This, for me, is the really frightening thing that's been going on in the United States for the last 30 years or so. It's been hidden behind various smokescreens and misdirections, but there is a strong, well-entrenched and growing movement towards theocracy in your country.

Read about Dominionism, the theocratic ambitions of the Religious Right, and especially "The Constitution Restoration Act of 2004" at the Yurica Report

[Oak2004]

19. I think there's even a higher order of sinister going on here

I'm currently having loads of fun researching the ties between the Religious Right and those Straussian neocons that infest Washington. I haven't tied all the ends together, but at this point I'm pretty convinced that at least some of the leadership of the "Religious Right" are themselves followers of Leo Strauss, and are cynically advancing his scheme of pious untruths to control the masses, power and will unbounded by morality for the unbelieving elite.

They aren't trying to build a theocracy. They're trying to build a fascist state where a nonbelieving group of ubermenschen intentionally dupe the rest of the population with a made-up, heavily legalistic and moralistic, religion. I can see how so many of the founding neocons were once Trotskyists -- this is Marx's admonition about religion, turned on it's head.

[Longhorn]

6. You're right!

They won't stop until they get a government-sanctioned religion -- their religion, of course.

[Judi Lynn]

14. AMEN to that, GOPFighter.

They want to tell everyone who believes and acts differently from them that they'd damned well get in line and get out of their road, they're taking over.

I think Moore sees his undereducated, disenfranchised, alienated poor white supporters as sheep waiting to be fleeced. He undoubtedly thinks he can manage an ignorant, superstitious version of a grass roots movement to steer them toward the authority they believe they deserve with him driving the herd! What a moran.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1068674387261_2003/11/14/15JUDGE_REU,0.jpg

[Nevernose]

15. Moore could probably even get away with...

...hanging them up in his chambers. Putting up a five ton granite sculpture in the rotunda of the Alabama courthouse? He was clearly just trying to pick a fight and further his personal ambitions.

[Jacobin]

16. How can you have a real Theocracy unless you merge

church and state? That is what they are after

[Mike Niendorff]

17. precisely.

It's nothing but a political motivation tactic, designed to induce a predictable legal response that can then be used to whip the fundies into a paranoid frenzy. "ahhhh! they're going to ban the bible!" "ahhhh! they're going to arrest me for saying a prayer!" "aaahhhhh!! if I don't vote Republican, the evil secular humanist communist devil-worshipping conspiracy will come after me!!!" "ahhhhh!!!!!!!"

<insert sound of 10 million paranoid fundamentalists rushing off to the polls>

<insert sound of Republican strategists laughing at their gullible predictability>


MDN

[yellowcanine]

5. I guess "Duck Blind Justice" Scalia couldn't corral 3 others to agree

to hear this case. Pity. I was kind of hoping for a major smackdown of Little Roy after some entertaining oral arguments featuring "Duck Blind Justice" Scalia and "Me Too Tony" Clarence.

[trapper914]

7. Cowards.

The Supreme Court needs to, once and for all, rule on this issue.

[SemperEadem]

10. In a way, they did

perhaps the majority feels the federal judge who dismissed the case was right in his ruling--which he was.

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[ReadTomPaine]

9. Roy Moore is a thinker?

Please explain this. He's a nutcase.

RTP.

[Mike Niendorff]

18. yep, he's a thinker all right

as in:

"I think I can become a right-wing celebrity by playing games with the Constitution"

"I think the religious right is too ignorant and paranoid to appreciate WHY we keep the government out of the religion business"

"I think I can leverage my self-made martyr status into a tool for personal and political advancement"

"I think if I use the Ten Commandments to do this, nobody will dare to question my motives"

"I think I can get away with it"

"I think it'll make me a bigshot on the far right"

"I think it's the perfect scam"


Yep, that's Roy Moore: always thinking.


MDN

[Steelangel]

11. what?!?

'Moore's lawyers had called on the Supreme Court to "remedy this travesty of justice" and give him his job back. The high court declined, without comment.'

Justice? what drugs are they on? That made me sick.

Supreme Court, I applause you for making a such good decision on that ridiculous case.

[napi21]

12. Yes, and I think this is different than not accepting the case!

Since SCOTUS accepted the case, their decline to restore Moore is a definite decision against him.

[dave123williams]

13. The only 'travesty of justice' is Moore himself.