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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:52 PM
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Bush Seeks to Regain Momentum - Taxes, Security/ (Also Hillary Joke)
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 03:53 PM by doxieone
He also makes a bad joke at Hillary's expense.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6409119

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You may have noticed he changes positions quite frequently, but not on taxes," Bush told supporters in Clive. He accused Kerry, during his 20 years in the Senate, of voting "to raise your taxes 98 times" -- a figure the Kerry campaign and others dispute.

Bush also derided Kerry's health care plan as a step toward a government takeover. "He's got a system that's creeping toward Hillary-care," Bush said, referring to the failed health care plan advocated by former first lady and now Sen. Hillary Clinton.


(snip)

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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 03:59 PM
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1. It wasn't a "failed health care plan"
as it was never enacted into law.

We will never know whether it would have failed or not. "Harry and Louise" saw to that.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:00 PM
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2. Great Kerry campaign response
Kerry campaign spokesman Phil Singer responded, "If George Bush thinks John Kerry's plans to strengthen the military, build alliances, and implement the 9/11 Commission's intelligence reforms will make the world a more dangerous place, he's even more detached from reality than he demonstrated at the debate the other night."

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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:06 PM
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3. o good hit!
uuummppff!:toast:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:15 PM
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5. Bush "detached from reality"
A much better line of attack than "living in fantasyland".
Reality sucks for many who have to live in it.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 07:51 PM
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11. I like it. n/t
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:09 PM
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4. When all else fails, mutter the name "Clinton."
At this point, only the most conditioned Pavlovian elephant is responding to that muffled bell.

It's desperation, they are on their heels. Watch 'em fall ...
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:33 PM
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9. just pray that when they do fall, they don't get hurt, cause ya know
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 04:34 PM by skylarmae
WHO'LL END UP TAKING CARE OF ALL THE BASTARDS.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:37 PM
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10. I wouldn't mind spending my tax dollars to keep them
incarcerated for the rest of their natural (or is that
unnatural)lives!
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:23 PM
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6. Hm
Can't wait until Hillary lets him have it. It won't be pretty.
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Peanut Gallery Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:24 PM
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7. The tax issue is misleading and has been debunked
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 04:27 PM by Ravenswood
Back in March Bush was saying Kerry voted to raise taxes 350 times. The article above doesn't say what Bush is basing the "98" number on, but here is the debunker for the 350 number:

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/news/news_2004_0324.html
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When pressed for a list of Kerry's 350 votes, the Bush campaign quickly supplied FactCheck.org with one document listing 352 votes and a second listing an additional 27 votes. But a campaign official cautioned: “It is important to note that these are votes for higher taxes, not necessarily tax increases, meaning it includes votes against tax cuts.” (Emphasis added by FactCheck.org). In other words, what the campaign's manager and chief spokesman had been saying was wrong. And even the President's phrasing -- saying Kerry voted for "higher taxes" 350 times -- is not only misleading but actually misled several news professionals. It's simply untrue that Kerry voted for tax increases 350 times.
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From the article in the original post:

"Bush also derided Kerry's health care plan as a step toward a government takeover. "He's got a system that's creeping toward Hillary-care," Bush said, referring to the failed health care plan advocated by former first lady and now Sen. Hillary Clinton."

<Cue Bush's maniacal giggling here>

This is a slap not only at Kerry and the Clintons but the millions in this country who don't have health insurance right now.

US Health Insurance Costs Rise Faster Than Wages
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_20375.html
(snip)
The cost of health insurance premiums rose by nearly 36 percent on average from 2000 to 2004 in 35 states, said the group, which bills itself as a nonpartisan watchdog on health care issues. Average earnings rose just 12 percent over the same time.

The Families USA report found that health insurance plans provided by employers are covering fewer health services and workers are paying higher deductibles and copayments.

(snip)

In 2003-2004, one out of every three Americans under 65 years of age went without health insurance for some period of time. Over half of these people were uninsured for at least nine months," the group said.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:28 PM
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8. Typical mouth breather talking points
guns, gays, abortion, blacks, blowing anything up that we feel like.

The yahoos really eat that stuff up. Makes them forget that they have pathetic, meaningless lives shopping for crap, getting yelled at by their bosses and listening to their whining spouses.

"gimme a beer and let's watch oh'really"
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