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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 05:59 PM
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National Guard hands over more Bush papers (yes, more)
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH_GUARD?SITE=ININS&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

By MATT KELLEY
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than a week after a court-imposed deadline to turn over all records of President Bush's military service, the Texas Air National Guard belatedly produced two documents Tuesday that include Bush's orders for his last day of active duty in 1973.

The orders show Bush was on "no-fly" status for his last days of duty because he had been grounded almost a year earlier for skipping an annual medical exam.

The files, released to The Associated Press under a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, are orders for Bush to appear for two stints of active-duty training: a 1971 exercise in Canada and eight days of duty in July 1973.

The records released Tuesday are the fifth set of documents related to Bush's Vietnam-era National Guard service to be released in response to the AP lawsuit. The federal judge overseeing that case ordered the Pentagon to disclose all of Bush's records by Sept. 24. Tuesday's four pages of records were the second set of files released after that deadline.

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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:03 PM
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1. will it even stop dripping?
(No.)
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:04 PM
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22. This is the 5th document drop from AWOL/moron since he said on Russerts
Meet The Press interview in February, that all documnets had already been released.

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:04 PM
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2. This is big....
Why is it not all over the news?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:08 PM
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3. Because w's a Republican.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:25 PM
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16. Repukes make war
they don't serve.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:09 PM
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23. That is SO sad and SO very true,
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:12 PM
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4. So, according to the dead-from-the-neck-up faker in the White House,
he trained on F-102s and "continued to fly for several years". What was he flying? A flight simulator, paper airplanes, what?

This clown should have been activated. No two ways about it.

And shouldn't someone's ass be in trouble because they're just dribbling this shit out a couple of pages at a time?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:32 PM
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10. Maybe Dubya was referring to those balsa wood stick models


with the wind up rubber band propellors. I used to have hours of fun flying them too.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 07:03 PM
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15. Fly'n HIGH on Coke and Wacky Weed...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:18 PM
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5. Hmmm, did Bush follow those orders? I don't think so but I would
really prefer to focus on the disaster he has started in Iraq.

Of course, proving he has lied over and over again about his own military record isn't something I would snub.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:20 PM
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6. Here's the same story on Yahoo
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:27 PM
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8. Done. 4.35 with 29 votes n/t
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 08:31 PM
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17. rated the yahoo version 5, and now it's even higher at 4.45 with over 100
votes. remarkable!
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bluedonkey Donating Member (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:26 PM
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7. The ink wasn't dry
that's why they missed the deadline.
I thought all the papers were shredded?!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:28 PM
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9. Hey! It's not Friday night yet!
Who authorized that document dump?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:34 PM
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11. No kidding, i have my calendar all screwed up now!
More documents, less info. What the hell is the point of them releasing these?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:42 PM
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13. The debate will absorb all the oxygen and ink..
:)
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 03:59 PM
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21. Post-debate kick
:kick:
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:42 PM
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12. Hmmmm!
Why now? Someone has been sitting on this.....what else is being hidden? This also is too funny.

Really, not sure of this and why now?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 06:49 PM
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14. Now The FORGERY STORY Becomes More Clear
It was preemption for this set of documents that corroborates what was in the memos:

The orders show Bush was on "no-fly" status for his last days of duty because he had been grounded almost a year earlier for skipping an annual medical exam.

This story may have been somewhat neutralized by the charge of forgery and the CBS diversion.


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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 09:25 PM
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18. When I was in the IRR I was ordered to get a physical
It was a five year physical. I didn't get one on active duty my last few years on duty and then my exit physical was skipped because of the more pressing need to examine people being mobilized for Desert Storm. A few years later after separation when I was ordered to get the physical, I wasn't obligated, so I skipped it.

I got orders 30 days later telling me to get the physical or be ordered to active duty or to resign my commission. I was told that if I didn't resign I would be subject to the UCMJ for failure to obey a lawful order.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:12 AM
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19. Can't you claim the bush clause?
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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:23 AM
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20. Holy shit! Kick! Kick! Kick! Bad week for Georgie!
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:11 PM
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24. Double Kick.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:28 PM
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25. what???? More records??? Fire Dan Rather now!!!
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 05:35 PM
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26. That last paragraph got my attention
Snip..
The records released Tuesday also include orders for an August 1971 training mission in Canada, where Bush impressed his commanders. An evaluation written nine months later said Bush's "skills as an interceptor pilot enabled him to complete all his ADC (Air Defense Command) intercept missions during the Canadian deployment with ease."

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Makes dub seem like a good troopy. Funny that it was written 9 months later. I don't know what to make of it.
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