Meeting was not first for Cheney, Edwards

[prankster]

CLEVELAND - Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) said Tuesday that the debate against Democratic Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites) marked the first time the two had met. In fact, the two had met twice previously.

"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session. The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight," Cheney told Edwards during the debate.

In February 2001, the vice president thanked Edwards by name at a Senate prayer breakfast. Edwards aides also said the two met when the first-term North Carolina senator accompanied, Elizabeth Dole (news - web sites), to her swearing-in by Cheney in January 2003.

More -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=4&u=/ap/20041006/ap_on_el_pr/debate_first_meeting

Rate it up! The press has picked up the lie and we need to press this issue hard! It may be a lie about a trivial matter, but the meme must be the dishonesty of the administration and this is perfect evidence!

Liar Liar pants on Fire!

Cheers,

Prankster

[jdj]

1. Wow, Yahoo is calling Cheney a liar?

good happy day.

[Skip Intro]

7. or simply reporting the facts

which, of course, proves cheney is a liar

(as if the "saddam has nukes" lie wasn't bad enough)

[sonicx]

12. actually AP

but still great. :D

[NJmaverick]

45. People this is a winning issue

We make this the big issue from the debate and we can do to Cheney what the repukes did to Gore in 2000.

[ALago1]

2. BWAHAHAHA!!!

Can't wiggle out of this one, Dick!

[bluestateguy]

3. Just remember...

Al Gore was deemed a "liar" for bungling the facts about a girl in Florida who did not have a desk at her school.

[prankster]

6. Exactly...and revenge is a dish that is best served cold

eom

[alarcojon]

9. Exactly

they distorted Gore's comments beyond recognition in order to make them into lies. But Spankin' Dick wii get away with this with few repercussions, I'm afraid.

[study_war_no_more]

16. and Bremer and Ashcroft?//

What the hell they putting in the soma?

[Jayster84]

4. Perfect reply.

When John Kerry is elected president we will begin stem cell research again, so that people don't have to live with alzhiemers. Mr Vice President, we have met several times.

[Pirate Smile]

5. Hopefully, tomorrow they will show the footage from the prayer

breakfast when they say it is a lie.

[nirvana3240]

8. hahaha

I hope this gets coverage...

[truthisfreedom]

11. it's just funny enough that it might. the news seems to dig on funny when

it comes to bushco. i wonder why? weird.

[lumpy]

10. Cheney seemed very weary.

He didn't put forth much in defense of his administration. Appeared lackadaisical, lackluster and almost diffident. The memory question? Some people entering old age with medical problems do develope memory problems. Might be these facts contribute to his poor decision making along with his lifelong love of the BUCK.

[truthisfreedom]

13. i was surprised that he gave up a full 30 second rebuttal. that was darned

strange.

[vinnievin777]

14. Lie was not only one told by Chenious

88.5 percent of coalition casualties are American.900,000 small businesses will not be taxed by Kerry and much more.
and there are more.

Vinnie
http://www.vinnievin.com

[TaleWgnDg]

15. hey . . .

. . . . . . . .

[leesa]

43. What a sad picture. This is what we're raising in this country?

[DemBones DemBones]

17. It may be trivial, but it goes to character.

I doubt Cheney would forget meeting an up-and-coming senator in the opposing party, especially not one as good-looking as John Edwards. Looks aren't everything but they never hurt. People tend to like more attractive people better than less attractive ones, rate them as smarter and nicer.

[proud patriot]

18. Wheeeeeee !!!!!!!

:D

[missingthebigdog]

19. Video of the swearing in ceremony- There he is!

I'm really bad at links-
navigate to:

http://pbs-newshour.virage.com/cgi-bin/visearch?user=pbs-newshour&template=template.html&squery=%2BVideoAsset:pbsnh010703

and click on "play video" next to "Opening Day"

If anyone can grab this, please do!

[missingthebigdog]

20. Okay, I captured the image

but don't know how to post it. Advise?

[truthisfreedom]

21. go to photobucket.com and sign up for a free account, and post it there.

use a nick instead of your real name.

[missingthebigdog]

22. Here goes

<img src="">

[truthisfreedom]

23. excellent! is that Cheney on the left?

[missingthebigdog]

24. Yes

Unfortunately, no way to get a better picture without photoshopping it- the camera is panning across the senators as he swears them in.

Thanks for your help!

[Zen0]

25. Kerry and Edwards..

Kerry is extremely intelligent and quick on his feet. Not to call Edwards unintelligent, but his knowledge doesn't exceed Cheney's. But Edwards has charm, and a great persona. Kerry is said to have problems relating to people, but Edwards doesn't have that problem. Edwards was THE PERFECT pick for VP.

BTW, who wants to watch some old, tired CEO guy debate. Edwards gets much more attention just because of his youth. GO KERRY EDWARDS!!!

[truthisfreedom]

29. surprisingly, Edwards won according to the faux online poll. vote!

[Sterling]

35. Still working on what your post has to do with this thread.

But hey if it gets your post count up then great.

[Polemonium]

27. That about sums it up

Perhaps he'll just tell us all that it really isn't him. Cheney doesn't even recognize the truth any more.

[daleo]

55. Edwards looks pretty leery of Cheney in that picture

Interesting shot.

[ruggerson]

26. This Story is the Whole Debate. Game, set, match.

This is all that people will remember about this debate.

Cheney was caught in a huge lie.

[L.A.dweller]

28. Where is your integrity Mr. Cheney????

asshole

[Erika]

30. Cheney has no integrity

As do his supporters.

[daleo]

56. That's even better than the swearing in ceremony picture

Cheney will have some 'splaining to do.

[Zomby Woof]

31. Big Lies are easy

It's the little ones that'll get ya.

[Moderator]

32. KICK

:kick:

[Zech Marquis]

33. Darth Cheney lied his ass off

all night long :bounce:

[mindfulNJ]

34. Elizabeth Edwards reminded Cheney

on stage at the debate! I was wondering what she was saying to him...he said in response "oh yeah". :eyes:

[VLC98]

37. What a great lady!

I too was wondering what Elizabeth said to him, she just looked like she had a particular purpose. Good for her!

[Enraged_Ape]

36. This was supposed to be Cheney's "Zinger of the Evening"

And there it is shot down in flames.

And at a prayer breakfast, of all things. Now everyone, even Freepers, can associate John Edwards with good Christian prayer.

This, and Cheney's factcheck.com gaffe, are just too damn funny. It's going to be another great day today, except for the terror alert that you know has got to be coming.

[snippy]

38. Cheney lied? How very republican. n/t

[jlucu]

39. On Meet the PRess as well

Tim Russert just told Katie Couric this morning that they were on the same Meet The Press (they weren't interviewed together, but right after each other) and that they shook hands etc.

[OKNancy]

40. Here is an article that mentions the Russert meeting

Headline says THREE (at least) meetings

http://www.cleveland.com/newsflash/cleveland/index.ssf?/base/politics-0/1097065742239920.xml&storylist=cleveland

[JPZenger]

41. Cheney Mainly Attends GOP Lunches

Cheney said he presides over the Senate almost every Tuesday. This morning, on NPR, the reporter who covers Congress for them says that Cheney on Tuesdays mainly spends his time presiding over a lunch for Republican Senators. He doesn't spend much time with any Democratic Senators.

[central scrutinizer]

60. gee - could this be why there is so little bipartisanship under

this maladministratino? Ya think?

[LiberalFighter]

64. So he really doesn't preside over the Senate on most Tuesdays!!

[CO Liberal]

42. I Just Voted

And here's the response I got:

You have given the news article Meeting Was Not First for Cheney, Edwards a rating of 5.

Its current average rating is 4.76 with 1341 vote(s).

:kick:

[Dora]

44. Simply Pathological

This is exactly what happens to compulsive liars. They've so occupied their minds with trying to keep all their lies and shenanigans straight that they completely forget what the truth actually is.

Have you ever lied about something that you shouldn't have lied about, and then had to carry the lie for some time? I think you'll agree that it's hard work on the ol' noggin. Now, the last time I had to live with a lie for an extended length of time I was 13 years old; I made myself sick with it, and will never forget how much I tortured myself over that damn report card. There is a reason they say "the truth will out." It does and it will, so let's all keep our eye on the prize. Not just the presidency, but true democracy.

I think we will have a few responsible members of the mainstream media who decide to shed more light on this "mistake" of Cheney's, as it illustrates so beautifully Edwards's arguments of distortion and innuendo.

[truthisfreedom]

46. THREE times, not two...

"Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session. The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight," Cheney told Edwards during the debate.


On Feb. 1, 2001, the vice president thanked Edwards by name at a Senate prayer breakfast and sat beside him during the event.


On April 8, 2001, Cheney and Edwards shook hands when they met off-camera during a taping of NBC's "Meet the Press," moderator Tim Russert said Wednesday on "Today."


On Jan. 8, 2003, the two met when the first-term North Carolina senator accompanied Elizabeth Dole to her swearing-in by Cheney as a North Carolina senator, Edwards aides also said.

[2bfree]

47. Thanks so much for the links!

Cheney is a lying sack of shit!

[Rose Siding]

48. So was Cheney actually at the Senate on "most Tuesdays"?

I wish someone would run that one down.

[demokatgurrl]

49. Whether he was there every Tuesday or most

Tuesdays, he was meeting REPUBLICAN Senators.

[onenote]

54. he refused to meet with dems

http://www.hillnews.com/issues/100202/cheney.shtm

As Cheney takes on high profile, Democrats can’t seem to find him
By Noelle Straub and Mary Lynn F. Jones

As the Senate prepares to act on a resolution authorizing the use of force against Iraq, Republicans say Dick Cheney has assumed an increasingly visible role on Capitol Hill.

(snip)
However, Assistant Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said he hasn’t seen Cheney “in months.” Other Democrats, including Sens. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Patty Murray (Wash.), Bill Nelson (Fla.) and Jean Carnahan (D-Mo.) also said they haven’t had much contact with Cheney since the Iraq issue began heating up earlier this year.

Asked why Cheney hasn’t reached out to Democrats, Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), a member of the Armed Services Committee, replied, “You’d have to ask him – if you can find him.”

onenote

[LiberalFighter]

65. Dated 2 Oct 2002

[BlueNomad]

50. I mentioned this in

Campaign Discussion so I won't belabor it here. The fact that Cheney did that and knew he was lying for the cheap seats will come back to haunt him. It simply reveals deepseated arrogance to think he would get away with it.

On another note --- CNN American Morning brilliantly showed the whole video of the prayer breakfast. Not only were the now VP candidates standing together they literally SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER and Elizabeth Edwards is next to Lynne Sleazeball Cheney. We also see and watch CHENEY!! thank John Edwards (yes he said I would like to thank Senator Edwards.) So what you always knew has been confirmed. He's an obnoxious dirtbag lying sleaze.

So spin that....and yes it will be everywhere on television tonight. Count on it.

[Bridget Burke]

51. That lie was noted on the Morning News...

KHOU-TV in Houston; the CBS affiliate where Dan Rather got his start. It's not a show that allows for deep analysis--just a summary of the news, weather, traffic & sports.

But it was a very short lie & very easily disproved. Just the right fit for the sort of news program everybody catches--even if they're mostly waiting to see whether rain is predicted. And those morning guys like a story they can present with a snarky smile.

[BlueNomad]

52. She reminded him about the truth...

Best quotes from that piece which is spreading like an STD...

Oct 6, 8:22 AM EDT
Meeting Was Not First for Cheney, Edwards
By LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press Writer


"I guess he forgot the time we sat next to each other for a couple hours about three years ago. I guess he forgot the time we met at the swearing in of another senator. So, my wife Elizabeth reminded him on the stage," Edwards said as the crowd roared.

According to Edwards' staff, Cheney replied, "Oh, yeah."

"She reminded him about the truth," Edwards told the crowd, "and come November, we're going to remind him that the American people do not want four more years of George W. Bush."

<http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=4&u=/ap/20041006/ap_on_el_pr/debate_first_meeting> (fixed now)



GO ELIZABETH!!!!!!!!!!!! Good lawyer, good wife, good catch!!

[Occulus]

53. "Document not found" on your link

Wow. Rub-a-dub dub, give that website a scrub...

I'm somehow reminded of Lady Macbeth. "Out, damned spot!"

[vogonity]

59. Hey Dick, it's not "Oh, yeah"

It's


OHHHH YEAHHH!!!

Graphic thanks to SheWhoMustBeObeyed

[Placebo]

57. Absolutely fantastic.

When Cheney said that in the debate, I knew it sounded highly suspect.

I hope the mainstream media hammers away at this! Along with many other lies that Cheney told last night.

I do not want the VP debate to be seen as a draw, it clearly wasn't, when nothing Edwards said can be proven false and numerous utterances by cheney have already been debunked.

[BlueNomad]

58. now playing, same piece

...on ABC's website....like I said...that tlie was grave error on his part--and he will pay with all the discussion about it---he looks like a snivelling coward.

<http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20041006_463.html>

[venus]

61. What did Edwards say in response last night?

Sorry I missed it.

[Sterling]

63. Nothing

He was too busy exposing Cheney's even bigger fibs.

[CBHagman]

62. I've already heard the idiot GOP response to this.

GOP co-worrker went on with the "well, Edwards is hardly in the Senate" line, even when several of us presented her with evidence of the fact that Cheney goes mostly to partisan events. Facts never disturb this crowd.

[AlFrankenFan]

66. I knew it couldn't have been the first time!

Cheney is SO full of shit. I'm sending this to all the major news outlets.