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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:10 AM
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Prosecuters can use Rush Limbaughs medical records(Dr. shopping)..MSNBC
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 10:30 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
court rules in favor of prosecuter...only 1 dissenting
vote
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-106limbaugh,0,509778.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines

WEST PALM BEACH -- A state appeals court ruled Wednesday that Rush Limbaugh's medical records were properly seized by investigators seeking information on alleged illegal drug use.

Investigators raided the offices of Limbaugh's doctors seeking information on whether the conservative commentator illegally tried to buy prescription painkillers. Limbaugh, 53, has not been charged with a crime and the investigation had been at a standstill pending a decision on the medical records.

``We hold that the constitutional right of privacy in medical records is not implicated by the State's seizure and review of medical records under a valid search warrant without prior notice or hearing,'' the 4th District Court of Appeal ruled. Chief Judge Gary M. Farmer wrote the opinion.

A spokesman for Limbaugh did not have any immediate comment.

Prosecutors went after Limbaugh's medical records after learning that he received about 2,000 painkillers, prescribed by four doctors in six months, at a pharmacy near his Palm Beach mansion.



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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:14 AM
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1. Must have been one of them activist judges who let it ride <sarcasm>
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:19 AM
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2. hang 'em high!
apply the mean spirited, authoritarian drug laws by the book to limbaugh since he is such a supporter of them.

let that fascist propogandist rot in jail.
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:19 AM
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3. Poor Daryn Kagan
Will prison visitation shut down their budding romance?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:32 AM
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7. I just realized something - she's one of these people who would
marry prison inmates!

Except she hooked up with Rush BEFORE he was shipped off to prison. Whoops.

As I said on another thread, some people will do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to get out of Ohio and into a warmer climate . . .
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:38 AM
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10. the only thing better then conjugal sex is fugitive sex..
according to George Costanza!
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:19 AM
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4. CNN's Daryn Kagen had to pass
on reporting the Breaking News about her new boyfriend Rush, and Kyra Phillips reported it. Bizarre.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:21 AM
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5. Yikes! That makes it sort of OBvious! DontchaThink?
:loveya:
Asswipes. Both of them.:spank:
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:33 AM
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8. but did you see her try to make it out as a victory?
how stupid are these idiots?

She tried again and again to portray the investigation as closed.
Sorry, charlie. It has only just begun.
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:46 AM
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13. I waited to see how CNN would handle Daryn's reporting on the
Pigboy and it was indeed odd the way she handed it off to Kyra Phillips. Talk about comeuppance for a sanctimonious hypocrite...
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:08 AM
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20. I never knew this. How sick is she? do you think she is biased in
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 11:08 AM by gatlingforme
her reporting? hummmmm, ahhhhh, I knew there was something about that witch that I did not like, her eyes are very close together like the bushes.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:43 AM
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29. Noticed that too
I just assumed CNN had a shift change, but yeah -- Kyra doesn't come on until after Wolf, does she?

Daryn was just too busted up over it, I guess.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:27 AM
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6. This is great!
Over the next 4 or 5 months we could see Bush & Cheney gone. Rush charged with a felony. And possibly Tom DeLay booted out of Congress. SWEET!:toast:
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:37 AM
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9. A poor or middle class defendant would already be som'body's Bitch...
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 11:08 AM by farmbo
...Over this criminal charge.

But the wealthy, elitist Limbaugh can send an army of lawyers down to file frivolous motions to delay...and try to deny...justice for the People of Florida.


edited for taste
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:39 AM
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11. I'll Have to Listen to the Pill-Popper Today
This will make interesting radio....
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:10 AM
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21. Good idea, me too. I will see what spin he can muster on this
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:42 AM
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12. As much as I hate the drug war....
But still, it's his listeners. If noone listened, he'd be nothing but hot air.
Besides, one of many things can, and probably will happen-
•Chimpy pardon
•Appeal
•Dragging on and on until noone wants to hear him squeal any longer.

Thow him in jail, then end the drug war. Because I think people should have freedom to do as they please with their own heads. But for now.....:)
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:50 AM
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14. It's about damn time
this has been dragging too long. I know people charged with the same crime who are already in prison. If I were the pigboy I'd be shaking in my sty right now.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:53 AM
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15. Not to be a wet blanket here...
But don't go crowing yet.

First, remember this is Jeb Bush's Florida.
The same state that put his doper daughter into "treatment" and while she was there, was caught with a rock of crack.
And she never went to jail.
And Jeb doesn't owe his daughter anything, the way Rush practically hands Florida to him.
So I seriously doubt Rush will ever see a jail cell.

Second, I'm leery of this ruling, because repukes can now seize OUR medical records for "investigations" also.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:03 AM
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19. through warrants, they always could
If they show a judge that there is reasonable cause for further investigation, the court will issue a warrant. that is what happened here. Nothing more, nothing less.
your records can easily be obtained by warrant. Heck, to be totally accurate, with Shrub's 2002 medical privacy act, your records are even more at risk than ever before.

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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:58 PM
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38. I listened to his program
coming back to work from lunch and he explained it that everyone records would be open to inspection he mentioned that they had no probable cause so once again he slips in the lie. He will continue to appeal until he runs out of that road and then seek additional delays and hope that Bush will is pardon him which is more than likely if it goes that far. There are two Americas and two justice systems and Edwards needs to get back on that refrain.
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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:54 AM
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16. Hope He Gets a Cell Next to Cheney!
Nothing would make me happier than to see all of these evil hate-mongers rot in jail.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:56 AM
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17. Easy Question: Why Does Rush Have Balls Around His Neck ???


Hmmmm????

:evilgrin:

And don't be literal.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:22 PM
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33. Oh Come On... This Is An EASY One, LOL !!!
:bounce:
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:57 AM
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18. Rush on Jerry Garcia
"When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he's being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks."
- Rush (currently under investigation for drug use) Limbaugh, on the death of Jerry Garcia, 08-20-95.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:14 AM
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22. When will he be indicted? (eom)
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:15 AM
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23. They are probably not out to get Rush, but the doctors who prescribed
the drugs for him. To do so, they need his medical records. Embarrassing Rush is just part of the fun.

Seriously-would Elvis have died so young if his doctor had not prescribed so many drugs for him? This investigation is about protecting people like Rush from doctors and dealers looking to make money off his addiction. If he is on the path to recovery, he should be willing to let prosecutors see his records. It's part of the fearless moral inventory he's supposed to be taking.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:24 AM
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24. I doubt the doctors can be liable for anything.
The law is about Doctor Shopping. IOW going to more than one doctor for the same illness for the express purpose of obtaining more prescriptions of controlled substance. Rush is guilty as hell. He as much as admitted it on his show. He said he was addicted to pain killers and had been using more than was prescribed for quite some time. He opened his mouth and admitted to breaking the law and twenty million people are witnesses to that fact.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 04:53 PM
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45. Also, some poor folks have been give 20+ years for a few pills...nt
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:34 AM
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26. Self deleted
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 11:38 AM by Amigust
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funkhowser Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:35 AM
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27. differing people, differing law enforcement treatment
In the Tampa Bay area, one of the local television news reporters was arrested and jailed for the exact same offense ... doc shopping. The guy had disc/spine problems and wasn't getting sufficient pain relief, so he started going to multiple doctors and collecting multiple prescriptions for painkillers. He didn't get no Rusho hands-off treatment, he got handcuffed, arrested, and made the news on multiple stations.

Wow, my first DU post after years of lurking and it regards pigboy and painkillers (getting ready for a spinal fusion surgery myself).
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:05 PM
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31. welcome to DU and congrats on 1st post...
:toast: :hi:
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:26 AM
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25. Ridiculous!
Sure the medical privacy laws have been greatly weakened by this precedent, where now apparently, your medical records can be obtained if a prosecutor THINKS you MIGHT have committed a crime, despite the fact that Florida has a law specifically to handle a situation just like this, that was put in place especially to protect medical privacy, that was completely ignored.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT...

The point is that R**h is going to get about a week's worth of bad press and in the end, probably a suspended sentence, community service and/or a fine.

Many people seem to think that R**h should be punished because of his hypocrisy. Hypocrisy would be when a person advocates 1 thing when it would benefit them in some way and the opposite when it would not. Rush is against drugs when other people take them but for them when he takes them. Apparently some people at the DU are for medical privacy when it relates to themselves or society in general but against it when they have a chance to makes a political opponent look bad.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:51 AM
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30. I completely agree.
It is a true test, in the case of Limbaugh (god, why the name RUSH???), of our willpower. And especially after what happened to Chong. And I won't even mention the millions still in jail. I'll admit, I have wanted this guy behind bars. Of course we want this goon silenced. But that also is hypocracy. So you are right on all accounts. And I applaud your integrity.
OT- I say this all comes down to listeners- Our hatred for Rush, that is. If noone listened, he'd be no more than hot air. But it's the fact that people are dupped, and they are listening, and being affected by his putrid messages. Just like the media today, it's the people. It's the audience. We owe it all to the dumbing down of America. Not Rush.


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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 11:40 AM
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28. Pigboy has already made his medical records an issue
Edited on Wed Oct-06-04 11:47 AM by Amigust
by claiming that a painful back injury is the reason for his popping.

So he has already made them a relevant part of the case.

It's like AWOL's claiming to have fulfilled his Guard duty but refusing to provide the evidence that proves it.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:37 PM
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35. Actually, it nothing like that...
Some guard duty records are a matter of public records, others are in the hands of the national guard, but are there are no "special" protections for these records. There is AND SHOULD BE special protections for medical records, and doctor-patient priviledge. The fact that R**h talks publicly about his medical records is completely irrelevant. You don't give up your rights to privacy just because you say you have a back injury. If a woman admits to having a late-term abortion, has she given a prosecutor the right to look through all of her medical records?
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 03:10 PM
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43. If she claims to have purchased numerous drugs illegally because of
pain of a late term abortion, then her medical records should be available to support her claim of a late term abortion. That's obvious.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 03:45 PM
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44. "If she claims to have purchased drugs illegally..."
Then she is admitting to a crime. She would then have to be CHARGED with that crime for the prosecutors to be allowed to view her medical records. Either that, or the prosecutors would have to subpoena her records, which would go through the courts according to Florida law. Medical records can not be obtained by search warrants in that state. In any case, they could not use the medical records to "go fishing" for other past crimes. As far as I can tell R**h hasn't admitted to any crimes. As much as I don't like R**h, I still believe that this is a blatant attack on the privacy of medical records and doctor patient privilege, which can have reprocussions for ALL of us. Why is it that so many people complain about all the privacy rights being taken away by the Patriot Act, but have no issues with this?
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 07:58 PM
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46. Let me reword my comment for clarity of my original intent ...
(Writing is supposed to make one precise. Let's see if it works here.)

Instead of "If she claims to have purchased numerous drugs <illegally> because of"

For the sake of your response which lauched off of a grammatically mislocated word ("illegally"), that part is herein revised to express my original intent, "If she is being investigated for illegally acquiring thousands of prescription-only pills and she claims that the reason she took the pills was because of"

------------

Actually, I think your point about the appropriateness of the seizure versus our privacy rights is a very good one which deserves a lot more consideration. I abhor privacy invasion in general about as much as I abhor the Rush's of this world who are successfully destroying our constitutional democracy and have nearly succeeded in taking it over the edge. It's a provocative juxtaposition.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:10 PM
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32. one dissect? bet it was the pot-smoking liberal on the bench
ha ha ha ha ha
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Kilroy003 Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:28 PM
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34. This is great!
Did anyone see the September Harpers Magazine?

Theres a section titled (Directives) "NOT NECESSARILY THE NEWS" (from internal memos sent by Fox News's senior editorial vice president John Moody to his staff. The memos were leaked by Fox News employees to Robert Greenwald this year and released by Moveon.org in July.)

All the memos are downright damning. Here's one concerning the thread topic;

4/6/2004
"... The hearing on Rush Limbaugh's medical records could be a death blow to the case against him. If the three-judge panel rules that his doctor's records cannot be used by the prosecution, the case is likely to go away..."

Ha ha, looks like this case is staying right where it belongs.
Fox News is evil, EVIL!


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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 12:50 PM
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36. Rush's former hearing loss due to drug abuse? here's a site
http://shock-awe.info/archive/000923.php">Rush Limbaugh hearing loss Timeline

An interesting study last year into his drug abuse and hearing loss.

old stuff, but still interesting.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:58 PM
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48. And he was claiming to have trouble hearing just recently...
the last day or two.

His implant should had taken care of that problem.
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They_LIHOP Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 05:53 PM
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51. I absolutely DO NOT BELIEVE the hearing loss' bit...
People have been taking opiate/opioid narcotics of various kinds, often in extremely large quantities, for many many centuries.

I would consider it virtually UN-thinkable for one to suggest that there are ANY (even remotely) 'visible' (speaking euphemistically here) side-effects, such as dramatic hearing loss, of (even long-term, heavy) narcotics usage that would not be common knowledge at this late stage in mankind's history.

At the very least, a side-effect of such an obvious nature as hearing loss would be common knowledge amongst narcotic users themselves, but its equally unlikely that it would only recently be noted in clinical testing.

I can state unequivocably there IS NO such common knowledge, and that I'm rather intimately tied to said group via various "associations" in my life.

In a nutshell, I'd bet a LOT of money that this 'angle' is utter, pure, unadulterated HORSEPUCKEY.

Unless the problem is actually caused by an additive to the narcotic. An obvious suspect here would be acetaminophen, the other active ingredient in such analgesic compounds as Vicodin, Darvocet, and Percocet, which is actually pretty nasty stuff when you start talking about the equivalent of 60-90 Extra Strength Tylenols per DAY.

Thank goodness for the pure dope rush of Roxy's and Oxy's, both are APAP free. Far too many good people have died an early death due to vicodin addiction over the past 30-40 years, for absolutely no good reason other than the government's misguided War On Drugs, the priority of which seems to revolve around studiously avoiding any semblance of a 'harm-reduction' strategy in favor of being as punitive as is socially/politically possible.

People often ask me, when I advocate ending the drug war completely and immediately, "Wow, you mean even the hard stuff, like Heroin?".

To which I vehemently reply "ESPECIALLY the hard stuff like Heroin, my friend. Especially that... The MORE physically and mentally addictive a drug is, the MORE HARM it's illegal status is likely to cause". And I absolutely DO believe that ... passionately!

In an enlightened world, each day, the 'dope fiends' could walk or get rides down to the 24/7 government drug store to pick up their shit. They'd be asked each time if they are ready to get treated for their problem, and the taxes collected from dope sales would be used exclusively for the treatment of addicts who WANT it. In order to help placate the nervous nellies/drug-warriors, this tax could perhaps be also be used as restitution for victims of the occasional 'dope-related crime', but the reality is there'd be suddenly FAR FEWER, not far more, of such crimes.

You see, narcotics are not really known to cause the user to get violent, at least not on their own. The violence comes strictly out of desperation to get MORE. Which is a result of the WOD making the stuff 100X more expensive than it is to make!

Whilst many are technically synthetic, their 'action' is remarkably 'natural'. In fact, MORE 'natural' than perhaps ANY other class of drug (and highly contrary to their 'hard' reputation). The reason I say that is because they work by mimicking the actions of a substance your body already produces (aka l-dopamine, an endorphin, which activate one of the brains most primitive pleasure centers in a complex process often called the 'brain's reward mechanism') . However, because true dopamine breaks down faster, and is released only occasionally and in much smaller quantities than what you get in, say, an OC80, it is much less likely to 'addict' you.

Interestingly, though, people DO get 'addicted' to their own endorphins. Ever notice how some people just seem to NEED to do exciting, even life-threatening things on a regular basis, like, skydive or mountain-climb? Ever notice how you often feel a bit of a 'rush' and a distinct sense of 'well-being' after a good workout? And i think most people have heard of 'runners high', right?

Most people think of these as being the result of an 'adrenaline rush', but that is actually slightly off the mark. What you THINK you enjoy about 'adrenaline' is in all likelihood actually the enjoyment of a release of Dopamine AFTER the adrenaline. These two work in conjunction with one another (along with epinephrine and a couple others), in a reaction wherein they are perhaps best described as 'antagonists' of each other. A good analogy would be, say, crystal meth and valium.

The adrenaline is, obviously, the crystal in the equation, and that is released during the 'excitement' or the 'exercise' itself. Since this drug is closely linked to your 'fight-or-flight' instinct, it pours into your bloodstream when you need a burst of energy to respond to a 'stress' of some kind. In todays world, this is more likely to be a ski jump or a bit of strenuous exercise rather than spotting a hungry saber-tooth that you need to run away from at high speeds. As such, adrenaline is not really all that much 'fun'. The 'good feeling' that comes later is the result of an increase in production of dopamine, designed to calm your body down after a dose of adrenaline. It acts like the valium a speedster takes to get to sleep (finally!).

In fact, in virtually every way, narcotics work the same as natural endorphins. The problem with taking this stuff to feel good is that your body LOVES this stuff. LOVES. It affects the brain on a very, very primitive level, the 'live or die' level, and a constant oversupply of it causes the body to simply cease to produce it on its own. The rub (and it's huge) is that dopamine is responsible for basically EVERY GOOD FEELING you EVER HAVE, as well as your bodies own natural pain-killer - and believe you me, your body is naturally in A TON of pain without this particular drug flowing through your veins at all times. During withdrawals, without any endorphins produced naturally, the effect is like every single cell screaming at the top of it's little lungs "OWWWWWW!!! Help Me! I'm DYING!!!

Contributing to the misery is that the body has adjusted to over-produce stimulating drugs like adrenaline and epinephrine. Unfortunately, it takes the brain QUITE some time to re-adjust itself to normal if the artificial dopamine is taken out of the equation.

So basically, narcotics are the OPPOSITE of the drugs that cause violence. THOSE drugs usually cause irrational anger w/ loss of social inhibition and enhanced tendency toward jealousy/insecurity.

Back to the subject, if the dope fiend chooses 'not yet' (to quit using), they would be allowed to purchase the opioid/opiate of their choice.

It would be priced based on this formula:
Wholesale Co$t
+ $mall profit margin for the makers/suppliers/transporters
+ fairly $izable 'luxury' tax
--------------------------------------------------------------------
$ Consumer Price, estimated to be between 5-15% of current street value

Usage/tolerance would be tracked carefully to minimize 'diversion' (Such as to children or non-addicts) and the people could buy an amount equal to or slightly more than they received the day before, no more, no less. It would be of a consistent purity/strength, nearly eliminating overdoses. They would receive a few fresh, clean needles if their drug of choice required it, cutting down on aids and infections.

I hope it happens someday. But for today, Rush's hearing problems aren't from taking narcotics. There is simply no way. This 'feature' of dope would be extremely wellknown by now if it was capable of causing that problem...
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 01:49 PM
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37. I wonder if he's ever addressed the irony that the ACLU...
...supported his privacy defense?
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:06 PM
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39. he has
He said he "welcomes their support" or something to that effect.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:11 PM
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40. welcomes it but is unlikely to learn anything from it, I suspect....
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:47 PM
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41. Tee Hee
may he get exactly what he wished on others
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 02:51 PM
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42. He better get some vasoline ready
and don't bend over in the shower. :bounce:
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axollot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-04 10:40 PM
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47. living in FL
I was at my trusty walgreens one day when a guy came in with official paper work, told the tech he needed the pharmasist and blamo - handed her a supeona, it didnt appear to be for her cause i heard the mumbo jumbo about it being a patient at walgreens and he still had all the other major chains to do. SOOOOOOOOOO my guess here is it can be done, you can have your medical records handed over to the courts. On top of that well Doc shopping is illegal - as illegal as writing a false script to obtain controled substances. Then we have the HIPA agreement we all have to signed'
They can do anything nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww,,,,,,,,,,,
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 11:41 AM
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49. kick
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:10 PM
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50. Two thousand pills divided by six months works out to 11 pills a day
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 12:16 PM by rocknation
Is that a normal dosage for oxycontin? And if he didn't take them all, what DID he do with them? Is there a case for also charging him with intent to distrubute?

:headbang:
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They_LIHOP Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 06:00 PM
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52. Depends if you're talking 20's, or 80's.
BIG difference.

20's are the equivalent of 4 percocets, drug-wise. Taking 11xOC20's daily is about where someone who's been an OC addict for about a year is likely to be.

Now, 11 EIGHTYS is a whole different ballgame. 11 x 16 percocets a day? Uh, I ain't never heard of anyone getting THAT high up on the tolerance scale. But it is most certainly theoretically possible, given enough time to adjust to it, especially if you're a really big person. But I don't think he'd have been in shape to do the show, unless he's actually been a junkie since he 12 years old ... That is just an absurd amount of dope. But the body can adjust to practically any amount, given enough time. But MAN! Kicking off that amount would take going through probably 3 months of pure hell. You would be beggin someone to just kill you, now, please!!!
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