Cheney: Weapons Report Justifies Iraq War (AP)

[cthrumatrix]

Cheney: Weapons Report Justifies Iraq War

10 minutes ago


MIAMI - Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) asserted on Thursday that a report by the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq (news - web sites), who found no evidence that Iraq produced weapons of mass destruction after 1991, justifies rather than undermines President Bush (news - web sites)'s decision to go to war.

The report shows that "delay, defer, wasn't an option," Cheney told a town-hall style meeting.


While Democrats seized on the new report by Charles Duelfer to bolster their case that invading Iraq was a mistake, Cheney focused on portions of the report that were more favorable to the administration's case.


While saying that Saddam's weapons program had deteriorated since the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites) and did not pose a threat to the world in 2003, the report did say that Saddam's main goal was to get international sanctions lifted.


"As soon as the sanctions were lifted he had every intention of going back" to his weapons program, Cheney said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041007/ap_on_el_pr/cheney&cid=694&ncid=1963&sid=96378798


In other news, Cheney claimed the "world really is flat....technically".

[JuniorPlankton]

1. Flat Earth society for Cheney! n/t

[Catfight]

41. 3 blind rats! Cheney/Bush/Condi

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. Fantasia

[grytpype]

3. He's so nuts.

And he's a liar.

A crazy liar runs our country.

[Jack Rabbit]

4. In what parallel universe is he living?

I'm glad I'm not part of it.

[hippiechick]

44. I had the same thought ...

:wtf:


:hippie:

[The Magistrate]

45. The Reptile Lives, Mr. Rabbit

In a parallel universe in which the United States and great Britian could not have kept sanctions in place against Iraq till the Trump of Doom burst out on our heads....

It would seem the only real eperience this serial liar has acquired in government is experience in denying the facts when they contradict his ideology.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[young_at_heart]

5. How does he sleep at night?

I can't fathom a human being staying so calm about the misery he has created for so many!

[gratuitous]

15. He's making a bundle of money

He made at least $175,000 last year from Halliburton, and stands to make even more this year from their crooked war profiteering. If you don't have a conscience or a soul, that kind of money, stained as it is with the blood of thousands, is more precious than ephemeral commodities such as truth, reputation, or standing in the community.

But back to the main point: So, the fact that Saddam was no threat and growing weaker by the day is now trumpeted by Crashcart as "proof" that the invasion was warranted? Has Crashcart had a psychological work-up done lately? Is he sane?

[Honor Where Are You]

19. This is what I asked

IS THIS GUY F U C K I N G SANE?

[soothsayer]

24. It's his stock options---THAT's where he will make millions (conflict of

interest). Did you know that in the years prior to our invading iraq, Halliburton had lost $2 BILLION dollars a year (or was it a billion)? His options would have been worth NOTHING! Now their stock is soaring, they're making money, and he'll get richer off his options.

Oh...he said he'd give them to charity or whatnot. Suuuuuuure he will.

[Matilda]

32. He just counts his millions until he falls asleep.

Beats counting sheep anytime.

[MADem]

35. Sleep?

They take his batteries out and stand him up in the broom closet.

I swear, it would not surprise me if he clutches the pearls this month, resigns due to ill health, and they drag that creep Giuliani out to replace him a week before the election.

[Rose Siding]

6. Cheney: You are getting sleepy, veeery sleeeeepy...

[Cocoa]

7. I was wondering which way he'd come down on this

we can be confident Cheney put a lot of thought into this judgement.

edit: /sarcasm

[ixion]

8. cheney says this, and people accept it?

Are we as a society really that gullable?

Wait, don't answer that. I don't think I want to know.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

21. that's what is scarier "the people accepting it" can't get my brain around

that part

[rman]

25. people accept it,

or at least they seem to do so, because the media do not ask the critical questions, so it doesn't become an issue of public debate.

We're left to guess how many individuals there are who, like many people on this forum, do ask critical questions - but who aren't heard by the public.

[Lerkfish]

9. my fellow amurikans...evidence proving me wrong plays into my plans...

because the more I am proven wrong, the more justified my policy becomes....heheheheh...(wrings hands)....puuuuuurffffect.

[coalition_unwilling]

26. And the closer we get to 'winning', the more 'desperate'

the Iraqi resistance grows.

[Inland]

10. But that means that mere sanctions would have KEPT Saddam disarmed

the UN disarmed Saddam, the sanctions would have kept him disarmed---so what did we need the invasion for? Fact is, Bush didn't take a single WMD out of Iraq. Bush didn't end a single program. Bush didn't remove a single threat. The UN did. Sanctions did. Without costing a single American life. The same UN that Cheney has worked to destroy, and Bush sneers at, did the job he didn't.

But Cheney thinks the report justifies the 1100 American dead and billion dollars a week, when the UN had done the job for free?

[Aristus]

11. He thrusts his fists against the posts,

and still insists he sees the ghosts!

[goodboy]

12. ((((WAKE UP AMERICA)))) <nt>

[progressivebydesign]

13. Cheney and Bush are now officially CRAZY!

They will DO anything, and SAY anything to get elected.

[Beetwasher]

14. OK, I Thought I'd Seen Orwellianism Pushed To It's Limits, But This

definitely takes the cake...

Hands down, Cheney wins the Orwellian lifetime achievement award...

[Oilwellian]

33. Fits perfectly

Under a George Oilwellian administration. :D

[Kadie]

16. Saddam wanted sanctions lifted? Didn't cheney want them lifted too

a few years back when he was with haliburton?

[MADem]

37. Yeah, against IRAN n't

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

17. War Is Peace

Freedom Is Slavery
Ignorance Is Strength

Long Live Big Brother Dick!

[sniffa]

18. "as soon as cheney gets back into office"

he's going to have the majority of americans rounded up, and herded into concentration camps.

so deLay, defer is not an option.

[joefree1]

20. Disinformation

These guys are really out of the loop. Or just loopy.

[auburngrad82]

31. I loved what Bush said in the first debate

about sanctions and inspectors weren't working to make Saddam disarm and that going to war was the only way to disarm Saddam. If he didn't have any weapons how the hell was he going to disarm?

I'm glad that they are finally being exposed.

[GoSolar]

36. Yep,

I was wondering about that question also.

[bluedog]

22. cheney is a lying sob

the United States attacked.invaded Iraq.because these Neos kept saying Saddam violated Resolution 1441............guess no WMDS means he did not and all countries involved in this fiasco are War Crime Candidates..........

Thousands killed and maimed because of their lies.......
Just what will bushs punishment be?..to get elected for 4 yrs...our fellow voters have to be freaking crazy to vote them back in..........the republican voters are all responsible for the deaths of their fellow man and the men women and children of Iraq!....
To defend this man is beyond surreal!

[leftofthedial]

23. the piece of shit would use Mother Teresa's obituary

to justify invading her if she had oil.

[Javaman]

27. Moron can't admit he's stupid and chaney can't admit he was wrong...

The self-rightous administration

[auburngrad82]

28. He's got to be clinically insane

How can you justify going to war against someone that doesn't have WMD because he would have liked to have them? I would like to have a million dollars. Does that mean I should be taxed as a millionaire?

The mindset of the radical conservatives running the government right now is extremely scary.

[lovuian]

29. Maybe if I keep Lying it will come true

It doesn't work that way....

There are NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

Just a Rich Bad guy...and we obviously have a bunch of those in America....

[Demeter]

30. Sorry Dick, That Dog Won't Hunt: QUACK< QUACK!

[opihimoimoi]

34. The Old Liar Strikes again....

If he lies so MUCH....How in the World can he and Bush be TRUSTED???

I will NEVER TRUST THESE 2.... EVER....

[ismnotwasm]

38. This is just scary

He lies and HE DOESN'T CARE? Or is he that deluded? He is ignoring current world political implications, as well as the impact on Americans in general. To me, it seems as though they went to war ignoring the history of tribalism in Iraq, threw out the word "Muslim" as though it was a simple one-dimensional topic. And LIED! And they don't care!

[lucky777]

39. When will the press start using the word "LIAR"?

When this is on the news tonight we are going to hear again about 'changes in position,' 'new angles,' 'new approaches,' etc

When are they going to start saying that he LIED?

[Mountainman]

40. In other words, intentions are ground for preemptive strikes

We went to war because Saddam intended to build WMDs someday. This proves he was not an imminent threat. Oh I forgot, no one said he was an imminent threat. Never said he had connections to 9/11 either, Next lie, never said he possessed WMDs.

[takumi]

42. Dick 'Out of Touch with Reality' Cheney has Spoken!

[Brooklyn Michael]

43. Spin, Spin, Spin

White is Black, Up is Down, the World is Flat and George W. Bush is...the...best...President...EVER.

No WMD since Hussein got rid of them over a decade ago (lie #1).

No nuclear capabilities (lie #2).

Hussein posed NO threat to the world (lie #3).

Sanctions had depleted Hussein's ability to make new WMD's (lie #4).

Knowing that the U.S. & U.N. would've beenb as far up Hussein's ass as Cheney's hand is up Bush's backside if the sanctions ever WERE lifted, even if Hussein HAD been able to make new WMD, his targets would've been Israel and Iran (!!! lie #5).

And that's just from ONE report. I have come to the conclusion that whatever comes out of Cheney's mouth, the opposite is true.

[The Chronicler]

46. "2 + 2 = 5, Suggests Cheney -- AP"

[Robert Oak]

47. This is so great

the repeat false statement until people believe it propaganda technique is finally blowing up in their face.

Finally...hope it continues until the election.

[nolabels]

48. No clothes indeed, some of the naked truth is coming out in..........

corporate media. Maybe corporate media are running a little :scared: because they think the general public realizes they have been badly lied to

Went google-ling for information on enemy+cheney+halliburton+trade+nuclear+traitor+pakistan and on top found this

Speaking Truth to Ignorance: An Open Letter to Charlie Daniels and the Warmongers
April 5, 2003
By Christian Dewar

Dear Mr. Daniels,

While many people have criticized celebrities such as Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, The Dixie Chicks and Sean Penn for voicing their dissent against the massacre that is taking place in Iraq and some screeching heads such as Mike Savage call for protestors to be locked up in concentration camps, the hallmark of democracy is to allow all citizens to voice their opinion, no matter how unpopular their view may seem to some people. It is this "marketplace of ideas" and the give-and-take of political debate that allows our citizens to educate themselves and make informed decisions about important events. An informed electorate should debate issues that are critical to the well being of our country. Your criticism of the opponents of this war has been noted but I have to question the assumptions upon which you make your decisions.
(snip)
Clear Channel, which owns hundreds of radio stations, has close ties to the Bush family. They have been instrumental in bleating out the administration's messages and encouraging pro-war rallies.

Roger Ailes, the head of Fox News, was a media consultant for the Bush family. He has been quoted as saying that Americans don't want to be informed; they only want the illusion of being informed. Ailes continues to foist off right-wing ideology on unsuspecting viewers.

The media has also been consistently co-opted by American intelligence agencies. Ronald Reagan's CIA director, William Colby, was once quoted as saying, "The CIA owns everyone of significance in the major media." Their agents infiltrated the newspapers and magazines posing as legitimate reporters and generated stories that were slanted and biased toward their political agenda. Deceptive articles were planted in the press domestically and abroad. They called the program Operation Wurlitzer for its ability to loudly broadcast their propaganda.
(snip)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/04/05_letter.html

[sistersofmercy]

49. SOMEBODY FIND THE ARTICLE OF CONDI CALLING FOR LIGHTER

sanctions on Iraq, I believe it was March 2001. So we're back to the "intent" argument. :eyes:

[nolabels]

51. Still looking, but I did find this

I know this kind of old stuff around here, but I did find the quote at the bottom kinda funny



Special Report
Cheney lobbied Congress to ease sanctions against terrorist countries while he was CEO of Halliburton

By Jason Leopold
Online Journal Assistant Editor
(snip)

"I think we'd be better off if we, in fact, backed off those sanctions (on Iran), didn't try to impose secondary boycotts on companies . . . trying to do business over there . . . and instead started to rebuild those relationships," Cheney said during a 1998 business trip to Sydney, Australia, according to Australia's Illawarra Mercury newspaper.

Halliburton first started doing business in Iran as early as 1995. According to a February 2001 report in the Wall Street Journal, "U.S. laws have banned most American commerce with Iran. Halliburton Products & Services Ltd. works behind an unmarked door on the ninth floor of a new north Tehran tower block. A brochure declares that the company was registered in 1975 in the Cayman Islands, is based in the Persian Gulf sheikdom of Dubai and is "non-American." But, like the sign over the receptionist's head, the brochure bears the Dallas company's name and red emblem, and offers services from Halliburton units around the world."

In the February 2001 report, the Journal quoted an anonymous U.S. official as saying "a Halliburton office in Tehran would violate at least the spirit of American law." Moreover, a U.S. Treasury Department website detailing U.S. sanctions bans almost all U.S. trade and investment with Iran, specifically in oil services. The Web site adds: "No U.S. person may approve or facilitate the entry into or performance of transactions or contracts with Iran by a foreign subsidiary of a U.S. firm that the U.S. person is precluded from performing directly. Similarly, no U.S. person may facilitate such transactions by unaffiliated foreign persons."

Wendy Hall, a spokeswoman for Halliburton, said in an interview with me last year that Halliburton may not agree with Iran's "policies or actions" and the company makes "no excuses for their behaviors" but "due to the long-term nature of our business and the inevitability of political and social change, it is neither prudent nor appropriate for our company to establish our own country-by-country foreign policy."
(snip)
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/072304Leopold/072304leopold.html

GOP Hypocrite of the Week: Condoleezza Rice

A BUZZFLASH EDITORIAL

Listen to the GOPHOTW HERE.

Well, it took us 24 BuzzFlash GOP Hypocrites of the Week to find a woman who truly merits the honor that has, until now, been the exclusive province of white Republican males.

But, congratulations to our so-called National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice. Condi, you are the first GOP female to the break through the glass ceiling of Republican Hypocrites of the Week.

We call her the so-called National Security Advisor, because Rice doesn't, often by her own admission, appear to know what the hell she's doing. After the infamous Niger uranium fiasco, when Bush made a false claim in his State of the Union address, Rice told reporters that she hadn't read the CIA report indicating that the Niger/Saddam link was probably bogus. To add insult to injury, she and the White House had been warned of how suspect the claim was a few months before, but Rice had an excuse for that too: she just had too many details to keep track of.

So Rice, although our first woman, is really just one of the Bush Cartel guys. She shares with the rest of them the amazing ability to use incompetence as an excuse for failure and get away with it
(snip)
http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/04/03/edi04022.html

[sistersofmercy]

55. Those are good

I'll go do a google. I've seen the article posted here. Thanks!

[nolabels]

58. You can find out so many interesting things tooling around

Take a few names off a chart like this
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.bushnetwork.com/&h=813&w=658&sz=135&tbnid=Gvn3LZekxzUJ:&tbnh=140&tbnw=114&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDick%2BCheney%2B%252B%2Bbush%2B%252B%2Bfunny%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

Put them together to find stories like this

Kissinger And Nixon: Elder Bush 'Too Weak' For China
Kissinger Wiretaps to be Released
By Claire Soares - 12Feb02

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former President George Bush was dismissed as "too weak" for a secret breakthrough mission to China in the 1970s by then-President Richard Nixon and his foreign policy adviser Henry Kissinger, according to a White House telephone transcript obtained by Reuters on Monday.

When Nixon proposed Bush as a cloaked emissary for a trip that would eventually pave the way for the reopening of U.S.-Chinese relations, Kissinger responded, "Absolutely not, he is too soft and not sophisticated enough."

The gravelly voiced national security adviser, who ended up undertaking the diplomatic journey himself, added: "Bush would be too weak."

"I thought so, too, but I was trying to think of somebody with a title," Nixon replied. At the time of the call -- April 27, 1971 -- Bush was U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

The transcript is one of more than 20,000 pages documenting Kissinger's telephone diplomacy, which are to be made available to the public after being kept under lock and key for three decades.
(snip)
http://www.bilderberg.org/kissing.htm

edit for copyright

[sistersofmercy]

56. Here's a great link

Go about half way down to Cheney Led PPanel Seeks Review of Sanctions 4-20-2001 WP
It's interesting that all this ties into the Libya sanctions as well. I've been following the Libya news for a while and know that there are reserves exploration contracts in Libya that have been assigned to US companies prior to the sanctions and have never been reassigned. My guess is that Libya will announced as the no 1 in oil reserves in the near future.

www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5260/latest26.html

[xxqqqzme]

50. these guys R not using their

full potential - channeling Saddam is a talent they should campaign on. Too bad they can't channel Sharon.

[AngryOldDem]

52. SAY WHAT?

The fact that there are NO WMDs JUSTIFIES US GOING TO WAR????

I believe he has out-Orwelled Orwell.

[catmandu57]

53. He will never admit that he lied

You could throw every piece of evidence against him right in his lap, prove him to be a liar, make him have a massive heart attack and die on the spot and he would continue to insist that he didn't lie in hell.

[Emillereid]

54. Cheney reminds me of the paranoid schizophrenic who claimed he was dead.

His doctors and family tried every argument they could think of to persuade him that he was very much alive including pain. Finally one doctor asked him if dead people bleed. The paranoid admitted that dead people do not bleed. With this admission the doctor cut the patient and, of course, he bled. Whereupon the patient loudly exclaimed, "I was wrong." His family and doctors gathered round ecstatic at what they believed was a crucial breakthrough. The patient once again exclaimed, "I was wrong. Dead people DO BLEED!"

This is the twisted, shifting logic we are dealing with in Cheney. To borrow from Mao, he is slippery and slimy and hard to pin down! Obviously he doesn't give a rat's ass if the press or we believe him -- he is preaching to his base who don't read and don't think. Cheney, even more than Bush, understands that a lie told long enough becomes the 'working' truth -- there is not a single fiber of integrity or honesty in his being. He doesn't for one nano second believe Iraq was a threat, but he also knows that securing Iraq was the lynch pin of his so-called energy policy.

[DS1]

57. So Finding Weapons would have made the war unjust?

/just trying to follow the logic :shrug:

[pinniped]

59. These murderers never saw a story they couldn't spin.

And the sad thing is morans will buy it.

Bizarro World.