Limbaugh livid after court OKs data grab

[Rose Siding]

Radio rabble-rouser Rush Limbaugh raged yesterday after a panel of Florida judges ruled prosecutors probing illegal drug abuse were in the right when they seized his medical records.

"I want to remind everybody: I have not been charged with anything," Limbaugh lamented on his radio show after the ruling. "This was a fishing expedition from the outset to see if there was anything they could find to charge me with."
........
Limbaugh, 53, vowed to appeal and said the court's ruling "does not mean that the state attorney's office can now immediately dig into those medical records."

Prosecutors went after Limbaugh's medical history after learning he bought about 2,000 painkillers - prescribed by four doctors during a five-month period - from a pharmacy near his Palm Beach mansion.
..........
"Search warrants have generally not required prior notice because of the understandable fear that the property's custodian might cause the evidence to disappear," the judges wrote.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/239574p-205556c.html

[Occulus]

1. Lock his fat butt up.

[TwentyFive]

26. Sending Limbaugh to jail? HaHaHa! That Prosecuter will be a national HERO!

Martha Stewart went to jail for a lot less. I'd give anything thing to see Limbaugh escorted out of his mansion in handcuffs.

[ladybugg33]

93. Not "livid" - "scared!"

He knows he could be facing jail for his drug activities. Is there just one doc out there who will step forward. If they all step forward that will nail him. They certainly are not guilty of anything because how would they know Rush was getting prescriptions filled elsewhere? Of course, that is assuming that they were actually "treating" Rush for a medical reason and not just writing prescriptions.

[private_ryan]

27. that fat ass

will serve him well in jail ;)

[Mad_Dem_X]

31. What about the poor Dittoheads?

If Rush goes to prison, who will tell them what to think?:evilgrin:

[donco6]

48. B1 Bob has filled in in the past . . . eom

[demosincebirth]

47. If they ever put him in jail,..

the ought to stick him in the same cell with "Bubba."

[Jack from Charlotte]

62. Hey Rush. You got a purdy mouth.

[Amigust]

94. Maybe he will be popular in the slammer

ST. LOUIS MAN CLAIMS RUSH LIMBAUGH AFFAIR

[Catfight]

77. ROFLMFAO over that one Kgfnally! eom

[Inland]

2. Well, he hasn't been charged because the ruling on what evidence

can be used came down yesterday. Wait for it, Rush. Wait for it.

[CO Liberal]

3. Methinks He Doth Protest Too Loudly

That bastard needs to be thrown in the slammer.

[Wickerman]

4. If it was a fishing expedition, why did he scurry off to rehab

as soon as word of his"problem" leaked out?

He is SO over.

[Warpy]

5. He got bit by the Patriot Act, which he supported!

He got bit by the Drug War, which he supported!

Now let's see him get the charges reduced by a TRIAL LAWYER, who he hates!

Then let him reconcile all that stuff so that even his stupid dittohead listeners can swallow it all.

[gatlingforme]

51. What did he call drug addicts? I also recall his buddy Bush was

the one to make it easier to go after medical records from private citizens back in 2002.

[6th Borough]

61. I don't believe this ruling references the Patriot Act whatsoever. /NT

[LiberalFighter]

88. It doesn't... they used state law

[amber dog democrat]

6. Its nice to hear him squeal as

the sand runs out of the hour glass. In time, he may have a chance to learn some humility with a new crowd of peeps. I just hope they are gentle with him.

[notadmblnd]

23. I can hear the music of the dueling banjos from the film deliverence

right now. rush.. let me hear ya squeal like a pig

[AspenRose]

67. Humility

has a way of ensuring that, if you don't learn the lesson the first time (drug rehab), there are other opportunities for "lessons" (jail) along the way.

Rush is no different from the rest of us in that regard. If he made an effort to learn the nature of humility, the road would go much smoother for him.

On Edit: I hope Sean Hannity is paying VERY close attention. He's not exempt from humility's lessons either.

[amber dog democrat]

87. Do you suppose he will become a born-again Christian ?

Like Charles Colson ?

Scarey thought

[onehandle]

7. Not charged YET. Talk to us in a year, jerk. nt

[ladybugg33]

8. We all know that laws should only apply to inner city thugs and addicts.

What's wrong with these judges?

[Ezlivin]

9. Mr Cognitive Dissonance

Unfortunately, that assumes that he can cogitate!

[cardlaw]

10. He didn't complain

about the fishing expedition against Clinton. Cheney him.

[DancingBear]

11. Oh, and he's taking today off from his radio show, too

I wonder why...

"Roy, Roy - pick up the phone! Godamnit where's my freakin' attorney when I need him"

[Mountainman]

12. We don't need no stinking search warrants! Patriot Act II

[Laf.La.Dem.]

13. You are a bunch of mean people!!

Rush was taking drugs for his pain:evilgrin:

Please quit picking on my hero - oops I can not say anymore I need to do this:puke:

[Dogmudgeon]

18. Yeah, I take oxycodone for pain, too

But I've never taken 80 of them in one day.

I also don't strong-arm poor people in my employ to act as my "drug mule".

--bkl

[classof56]

20. Welcome to DU!

Glad to have you aboard. Remember:

BUSH MUST GO!!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. Poor, poor Limp-balls. How sad that he is being treated the same as....

...any other common criminal.

[WLKjr]

40. Yep, Just like any other

dead doper.....

[ixion]

15. Guess Rush doesn't like having his own rhetoric applied to him

Zero Tolerance and other such Republican 'drug war' creations that Limbaugh has talked up over the years... not so much fun when you're on the receiving end of that one, eh Rushie?

[Q]

16. 2000 painkillers in five months?

- He broke the law...big time. He's obviously not a legitimate chronic pain patient...but a drug addict looking for a 'fix'.

- Rush is still being treated with kid gloves. If he were POOR or a minority his ass would already be in jail.

[funkybutt]

50. If he ate all these pain killers...

that would be 13 pills a day!! I know he's a large man but HOW COULD ONE SURVIVE THAT? Were there remaining pills found? Maybe he was stocking up or something. Could he have been selling or "sharing" them with acquiantences?

13 OXYCONTIN/ DAY!!

[6th Borough]

83. Tolerance.

I remember one time, after surgery (septorhinoplasty), I got myself up to seven 7mg Percocets at once. Followed by another 4 about 2 hours later. I know I polished off a bottle of 90 in about a week, followed by a refill of 60 in a matter of days.

I don't think my liver was too happy with me ;) (Percocet contains the same opiate, oxcodone, as Oxycontin; it also contains Tylenol, however).

My liver is fine though, so don't worry...yet. :beer:

[0007]

90. 3 Oxycontin a day would keep most pretty

happy all day long. 13 is a little over the top, I think.

I know of a guy that has spent 15 years in a Texas prison for a questionable drug sale. I know Texas is ruff, but give me a break!! As for Rush he'll probably beat the rap but it'll cost him a ton of money. And that is the thing he loves more than anything in the world, well besides drugs.

[cornczech04]

91. I couldn't imagine either...

I was a "vic-head" Vicodin abuser..and started to take pills when I had chronic pain....(then when the pain would come back worse after I stopped...and then my PSYCHIC pain got bad......I would just keep taking them...I got them often for chronic pain issues....) anyhow...plain and simple...I used when I could have done without....so...even in my WORSE abusing times...I could only take 4 to 6 a day...and I am paying BIG TIME now...(I have been off them since 1997...) with a destroyed stomach and intestines.......and now pain killers work poorly when I REALLY need them (after surgery for example) SO I think Rush was either a BIG time abuser...or he was helping out his user friends....happens ALL the time among some women cliques ("oh...I have some extra Percocets...I'll give ya one..")

again, I reiterate that Rush, by being the hypocrite supreme about "Zero Tolerance" will get what is coming to him....

[goodboy]

52. I downloaded his scripts from smokinggun.com and showed them to

a physician friend of mine...his words were: "All those pills in 6 months?"


on edit: here's the file...

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[goodboy]

53. shit...I messed it up...how do I post the file?

[MADem]

78. This one?

[vajraroshana]

85. damn!! that's a lot of drugs.....

Norco is a hydrocodone/acetaminophen; clonidine is an anti-hypertensive that's been useful in treating narcotics withdrawal symptoms. The last one is kadian which is sustained release morphine sulfate.

In case anyone was wondering...I googled them, hadn't heard of most of them; I've only had the hydrocodone/acet for broken leg. Personally I hated them; they made me itchy and bad indigestion, but did work for pain.

[Polemonium]

97. With any luck the FL judicial will make an example of him

Intent to distribute, has to be there, no way this guy was taking 13 pills a day.

Wonder what the fellas in jail will think of him?

[Judi Lynn]

17. Maybe someone else will go to prison in his place

Just as someone had to go to VietNam in his place.

[bearfan454]

19. Put your hands behind your back rush.

You are going to jail. That's right, your right wing crony buddies are turning their back on you. They use people like you because you are stupid. Get it yet dumb ass ?

[bluestateguy]

21. He should be held in contempt of court

badmouthing the integrity of the court on his radio program. That cannot be allowed.

[sonias]

22. I agree with Warpy post #5 above - Patriot Act

Bit him in the butt - big time. But of course Rush supports the patriot act, but he never thought it would apply to him.

Well there you go you OxyContin moron.

Sonia

[jobycom]

24. Sounds like he's still on drugs, if he's that irrational.

He didn't seem to mind encouraging investigators to gather evidence on Clinton when Clinton wasn't charged with anything.

And besides, cops don't need to charge you before collecting evidence to decide whether to charge you. That's why they have search warrants in the first place. As long as there is reasonable suspicion-- and the facts that there is sworn testimony that he's a drug addict and that he checked into rehab to cure himself is pretty good reason to suspect-- they can search.

He's just trying to play the victim and turn the cops into the bad guys. That's his style. Create innuendo, run quickly from the facts.

Hope all Freepers are paying attention. This is the type of person their hypocrisy breeds.

[VegasWolf]

25. I wonder how the brothers in prision will like his remarks!

"Kerry has a 'chocolate chip' on his team", Limbaugh says
on his radio show after learning Jesse Jackson has joined the organization.

[TNOE]

36. Ohhhhh Good Point

Are there any "upper scale" prisons for drug addicted users who break the law? Certainly this won't be considered a "white collar" crime. He needs to go to the Big House - and see if he comes out alive.

He is rumored to be a homosexual, so perhaps the gang rapes won't bother him as much.

[VegasWolf]

28. Asswipe says all drug users need to be in prision!!

"Kerry has a 'chocolate chip' on his team", Limbaugh says
on his radio show after learning Jesse Jackson has joined the organization.

[enki23]

29. fuck you, limbaugh.

you are worse than every crackhead car stereo thief in the history of this nation. you brought this on yourself, and i hope you really enjoy your prison time. i've no sympathy for those without empathy.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

30. The judges should impose a gag order on this case

so as to not poison any potential juries :evilgrin:

[zbdent]

32. Well, use his "logic" against him:

As used on Clinton, or any liberal faced with accusations:

"If he's not guilty, then why's he being so evasive/nervous/scared?"

[JETS]

33. I wish they will eventually lock him up in a prison where frat pranks

are commonplace!

[ismnotwasm]

34. Ahhhh

Seeing limbaugh squirm is as good as a herbal scented hot bath after a hard day shoveling snow. Delicious

[Mr E McSquare]

35. Loud mouth

He'll spend the next few months in loud mouth over-drive and when he finally makes it to trial (he probably wont) he'll claim the jury pool has been tainted. The judge in this case should bar him from his radio show until the investigation and the following court proceedings have concluded. I know I'm just dreaming.

[Gregorian]

37. Welcome to your world.... Or, what goes around, comes around.

That guy is 53!? What an old fuddyduddy.

Glad to have you on board, RUSH. Maybe we can all get on with it now. Wouldn't it be weird if life made a liberal out of him yet? The "real" world has a way of doing that to people.

[stevedeshazer]

72. Careful who you're talkin' that fuddy-duddy stuff to, junior

;)

[Robert Oak]

38. This is the irony of the decade

He wants the neocon regime, the destruction of civil liberties,
the patriot act, the invasion of privacy...

our courts riddled with conservative idealogues and now he has the result.

[Richardson08]

39. How does Daryn Kagan fuck this guy?

[Ilsa]

42. Probably with

the lights out
the music blaring
her clothes on
and seven or eight of them little pills he's so famous for.

[Chelsea Patriot]

45. Bitch lifts up his fat folds, finds the Viagra engorged 3 inches and...

I leave the rest to you!

[Kierkegaard]

55. Thanks for that mental image.

I haven't had lunch yet! :puke:

[PatGund]

79. That's assuming...

That's assuming that her and him are doing the horizantal mambo, and she's not just a "beard" to cover for the fact he's queerer than a three dollar bill.

[olddad56]

41. Poor Rush, things like this are only suppose to happen to Democrats

[Misunderestimator]

43. Whew... I read that as "Limbaugh lived after court OKs data grab"

Glad to see that he's just livid instead.

[WilliamPitt]

44. A 'fishing expidition'? Like Ken Lay and 8 years of the Clenis?

Karma's a beyotch.

[grandg]

46. WPB Prosecutor is Republican

He is just following the law.

[daa]

49. I thought this butthole loved the Patriot Act?????? eom

[goodboy]

54. CHECK THIS POST OUT!!!!!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/rushsearch5.html

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[Tsiyu]

57. "The way Things really ARE!" n/t

[ismnotwasm]

64. Interesting

I see Clonidine a couple of times, that is sometimes used for addicts with withdrawel symtoms. Hmmm and Kadian? Another long acting narcotic which seems to be what he likes. Nope, I mean I never doubted but this list is NOT an example of controlled pain management. Hope he goes to prison. They have good NA meetings in there.

[goodboy]

68. I can't believe any physician could prescribe this much narcotics.

[Julian English]

69. Actually, clonidine is also

Clonidine is also used by junkies to intensify the opiate high, too. This is a hard-core addict trick.

[ismnotwasm]

70. That and Visteral!

I do believe you're right! Makes more sense than him withdrawing from anything, with that list...

[ismnotwasm]

71. And while I'm on the topic

Isn't niacin one of those things addicts use to try to clean up the urine? Urban myth, I think. I'm busy counting up his vicodin--jeez

[goodboy]

74. yes it is....nt

[goodboy]

75. how does that work?

[6th Borough]

86. I may be wrong, but...

IIRC, clonodine is a drug for hypertension; by relaxing the blood vessels, the plasma absorption rate of oxcodone (Oxycontine) therefore increases. Could be wrong though. Could be the combined relaxant effects of both drugs. Could be an alkaline vs. acid interaction.

Lotsa ways to "bump up" a drug's dosage (by dosage, I mean a) how much actually enters the bloodstream vs. taking the expressway to the liver/kidneys; b) keeping the drug in the bloodstream longer; or c) taking multiple medications w/ some overlapping properties). Example: Calcium Carbonate; Tums; will increase the absorption of amphetamines taken by mouth. Actually, it's true of pretty much any alkaline substance.

[Terran]

80. Ooooo SHIT! These data do NOT look good for Rushboy!

If this data is accurate, then Rush is toast. In general, there is no reason to be getting the same drug from different physicians. It's not unusual to be treated for different conditions by different doctors, but any doctor would ask you if you're getting prescriptions from other physicians. Unless Rush has four distinct conditions he was being treated for, why would he be seeing four doctors? The only exception would be if one doctor was filling in for another, say on the weekends or after hours.

Now, skip down to June 30th: he gets 100 Norco from Dr. Deziel (Norco is a brand name for a combiantion of hydrocodone, a very addictive controlled drug, and acetaminophen, a.k.a. Tylenol); then eight days later her gets another 88 Norco from Dr. Drourr. That's more than 12 10mg Norco consumed per day--I'm betting that's way above the recommended dose. Now 30 days later on 8/6 he's getting 40 hydrocodone with acetaminophen (basically the same as Norco) from yet a third doctor, Dr. de la Cruz. And then the real kicker is, just five days later, over a period of just 18 days, Dr. Deziel gives him 433 more Norco tablets--that's a consumption of more than 24 pills a day! I'd say Dr. Deziel is going to be in big trouble too, but it will be virtually impossible for Limbaugh to make a defense against that. What can he say, he didn't consume them all? Then why was he getting so many? It's not like people with his money have to horde this stuff. An alternative explanation is that he was giving or trading the pills to a third party for an unknown reason--which is, itself, a federal felony.

[goodboy]

81. It's real...and this is just SOME of the shit he was taking....nt

[goodboy]

82. also...

What can he say, he didn't consume them all? Then why was he getting so many? It's not like people with his money have to horde this stuff. An alternative explanation is that he was giving or trading the pills to a third party for an unknown reason--which is, itself, a federal felony.


These don't count the Illicit ones he was getting from his houselady.

[Terran]

84. An additional question he would be asked by investigators is

if you didn't consume all these pills, where are they? What did you do with them?

[Tsiyu]

56. "The Way Things Oughta Be:"

I, Rush, should get to lie like a two-dollar watch every day, incite violence, help destroy the Constitution, make racist, sexist and plain insipid comments, chew massive amounts of painkillers and make plenty of $$$$$$$$$$$

I am a Republican, People! Don't you understand? We are God's chosen!

[Terran]

58. LOL, I can just hear him spluttering desperately

"I want to remind everybody: I have not been charged with anything!"

No worries, you arrogant buffoon. You will be. Soon.

Fishing expedition my ass. That's how these kinds of investigations are conducted. You interview the doctors involved and you look at their records. They're looking for conflicting statements given to the docs by Rushboy; and those statements tend to jump out at you. This is exactly what I used to do for a living for the state Dept. of Health. Once you have those records in hand, it's pretty damn easy to spot a doctor shopper. Rush's career will be over, and shortly.

[Catfight]

59. SOOO..when he is charged, he will come clean then? LOL OR will

it be yet another litany of excuses from the excuse party? Ownership of what? I can't wait for the biggest hypocrite in radio to go down, he'll go down ugly, just like the other ones!

[T Bone]

100. Should this addict and criminal be on the radio 3 hours a day where

children could possibly hear him ?

[demoman123]

60. Someone please explain: I just signed an HIPAA form that allows cops

to look at my medical records without a warrant. The ACLU says that
Health Insurance Portability and Accounting Act of 1996 (HIPAA)allows the police to do this.

http://www.aclu.org/news/NewsPrint.cfm?ID=12747&c=27

So how can Rush make such a fuss about this?

[bushisanidiot]

63. How Long Will Jeb Let Boil Ass Flounder Before He Steps in to save

him?

[UpInArms]

65. Florida has laws against "doctor shopping"

http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/government/governorinitiatives/drugcontrol/pills.html

excerpt:

The focus on prescription-drug abuse also has been heightened by an ongoing investigation in Florida into the actions of conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh, who admitted in early October that he was addicted to painkillers.

Limbaugh stepped forward a week after media reports surfaced that his former housekeeper and her husband had supplied him with OxyContin and other powerful prescription drugs.

Authorities are looking into whether Limbaugh violated Florida's "doctor-shopping" law by getting multiple physicians to write him overlapping narcotic-drug prescriptions and failing to tell them about one another.

Bush also has a personal stake in the issue. His 26-year-old daughter, Noelle, earlier this year completed a 16-month program through an Orange County drug court. She was arrested last year at a Tallahassee pharmacy after posing as a doctor to call in a phony prescription for Xanax, an antianxiety medication.

...more...

[6th Borough]

73. Overlapping scripts is the key here. FYI on the law for those who...

...may not understand it.

When Limbaugh's legal problems first emerged, I noticed many people didn't understand what the term "doctor shopping" meant. I'm posting this to clear up any further confusion before it arises.

It's perfectly legal to get consultations with 10 doctors in order to get one who will prescribe you what you need (or think you need).

It isn't legal, at least in Florida, to go to 10 different doctors to collect 10 prescriptions for the same drug.

For example, I'm prescribed clonazepam (Klonopin)...50 (not really, just a nice round number to use as an example) 2mg tabs per month. If my doctor ceased to prescribe me clonazepam, I'de be well within my rights to go to as many doctors as necessary to find one who would fill me out a script for said medication.

I'de be breaking the law, however, if I went to 20 other doctors and got each of them to write me out a script for 50 tabs of Klonopin, picking up 1000 pills a month.

Just an FYI for anyone who may be confused at to what is and is not legal.

[6th Borough]

76. They should call it "script-shopping" instead /EOM

[yellowcanine]

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[cornczech04]

89. I think it's funny....

that the guy with the loud mouth about locking drug addicts up and throwing away the key just might get that karmic debt paid.....funny how when it's HE that is the addict...that suddenly it's unconstitutional to seize records....I have known young Vicodin addicts (24-26 year old women who got hooked on them from chronic pain issues) spend a YEAR in jail for the first offense of "doctor shopping"....and this in 1994...so.....I think pigboy will get what's coming to him...hypocrite....

[Bo]

92. BYE BYE Limpballs

[WestMichRad]

95. Oh, poor Rush!

It must be unbearable. Maybe he can find a doctor to prescribe him something to ease the pain.

The irony of having the ACLU supporting his case must really grind his axe, too.

[FedUpwith Repubs]

96. Appeal to - Florida Supreme Court

After the bashing Limbaugh and his ilk gave the court 4 years ago, its fitting that the Florida Supreme Court will be his court of last resort on any appeals. Goodbye and good riddance, Rushbo

[Flammable Materials]

98. A new era of responsibility, my ass.

Limbaugh is just another in a long line of Republican swine who preach one thing ("lock up drug offenders and throw away the key") and practice another ("Wilma, get me another fix").

Pigman got caught and now he's squealing like the spoiled rich bastard that he is.

Enjoy prison life, fucker.

[Norquist Nemesis]

99. I have not sympathy for this man.

Nada. Zip. Zero.

He needs more help than just a drub rehab program, IMO. I did listen to his first show when he came back from rehab. He seemed to have actually acquired compassion...but it was short lived.

Now, he's right (no pun intended) back to his opportunistic, egomaniacal, self-centered, bombastic, polemic style. And getting paid for it to boot! It's sad that people can be so easily snookered and will get behind him.

As far as I'm concerned, Rush Limbaugh is a pimple that needs to get popped.

[Dark Jedi]

102. Be Careful What You Say

>"As far as I'm concerned, Rush Limbaugh is a pimple that needs to get popped."<

Man, that sounds violent. Maybe Limburger will have his buddy John Asscroft look you up :)

[Norquist Nemesis]

103. He's an infection on society

and needs to be picked out and cured. We'll still have a scar as a reminder, but the bacteria of Limbaugh's hate-generating bloviations needs to be disinfected.

I'll give one thing to Bush...at least he didn't invite him to the WH like Poppy did.

[Dark Jedi]

101. Hah Hah Hah

Limburger is having a taste of his own medicine. "He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones". When will these conservatives learn? Bill Bennett (Morality Czar? What a joke!), now him. Who's Next?

[truthisfreedom]

104. don't pop a cyst, rush. it's a little something we call JUSTICE here in

the good ol' USA. plain and simple. the process is called JUSTICE.