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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:34 PM
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CNN: Dumbya now in the Rose Garden.
Reacting to Duelfer report, says we were still right in invading. Cites Sadaam "gaming the system" and "intent" blah blah.

He looks forward to improving intelligence. Spoke for maybe 2 minutes, took no questions.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:35 PM
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1. We love this report. We really, really do! (n/t)
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jbond56 Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:38 PM
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5. wow
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 12:53 PM by jbond56
I think he just fiqured out the Inteligence was flawed. WHAT?

It's hard work to keep up on these issues. I feel safer.....
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:36 PM
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2. Fantastic! Both W. and Cheney are reinforcing the picture that
Edwards and Kerry are painting of the administration being myopic, out of touch, deluded, etc.


Keep it up, Numbnuts!!!
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:54 PM
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13. Yes! They aren't even falling into the trap,
they are jumping into it! Way to go, hardheads!
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:54 PM
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30. Yes, yes. I hope they "stay the course!"
of course
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:25 PM
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34. "Staying the course" is "hard work" and they're "making progress!"
:eyes:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:57 PM
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39. Oh, Lord. Has he "turned the corner," yet?
:eyes:

;)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:37 PM
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3. You think this defense will hold at the Hague?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:49 PM
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38. You forgot? He's immune to the Hague threats..
THis administration passed a bill that alloted military resources to free any American who was held and charged in the Hague. Yes.. it's true. I've linked to it before. It's an actual attack plan on the Hague should any official, or military member be held over for trial at the Hague.

Not to mention the fact that Bush pulled out of the World Court Treaty, too. He's the Teflon Moron.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:38 PM
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4. "Well, if sweet talking you could make it come true....

I would give you the world right now on a silver platter"

so lies will have to do


lyrics from "I Never Promised you a Rose Garden"
except for the last one, of course
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:39 PM
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6. That's their line - "Saddam was bluffing! He tricked us!"
It's Saddam's own fault we invaded!

Last night Perle was maintaining this point, and also that Saddam deliberately bought the wrong type of aluminum tubes in order to TRICK us.

Yet another series of lame excuse by BushCO. Will they ever take responsibility for anything?
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:42 PM
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8. Yeah, that is the lamest cop out from them
If I go and confess to a series of murders or crimes, the police won't just take my word for it, they'll investigate before going forward with charges and a trial, a concept which was totally lost on Idiot King's keepers.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:57 PM
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31. Except he really wasn't bluffing!
Saddam said repeatedly that Iraq possessed no WMD's, and oops, golly he was right. So how is that 'gaming the system'??
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:46 PM
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11. tubes
how many "types" of aluminum tubes are there?

This administration is a joke
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:05 PM
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32. How dumb does it make Bush that he was duped by Saddam? nt
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:34 PM
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35. I heard that on Charlie Rose.
Listening to pearle last night is like me (trying very hard) 2 comprehend 'string' theory. The double speak just leaves my brain fried.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:48 PM
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37. BTW, no longer "string" theory. Now "Membrane" theory.

Membrane being a string expanded multidimensionaly. I think.
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Richardson08 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:39 PM
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7. New spin is Saddam was violating the oil for food program and that is a
reason to go to war

Oh boy
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:44 PM
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10. Plus he had bad hair. And I never liked his outfits.
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 12:45 PM by mahina
Seriously- the hype about the oil for food thing is typical of people who assume a perfect world.
I really love that this hopeless deceitful ignorant embarrassment is on the defensive.

Bye now W!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:59 PM
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40. Absolutely
Saddam always wore khaki. Khaki is very hard to see in the desert sands of the Middle East. Ergo, Saddam was trying to hide from us. Just cause, right there. :crazy:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:19 PM
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27. Yeah, it's the "He made us attack by doing business with us...
...when it was illegal" dodge.

If I were Bush/Cheney, I wouldn't pursue THIS line of logic:

As secretary of defense in the first Bush administration, Cheney helped to lead a multinational coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf War and to devise a comprehensive economic embargo to isolate Saddam Hussein's government. After Cheney was named in 1995 to head Halliburton, he promised to maintain a hard line against Baghdad.

But in 1998, Cheney oversaw Halliburton's acquisition of Dresser Industries Inc., which exported equipment to Iraq through two subsidiaries of a joint venture with another large U.S. equipment maker, Ingersoll-Rand Co.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/02.03E.Hallib.Iraq.htm
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:42 PM
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9. Saddam was "crawdading" and "stiffing the world"
...as Bush said before he launched the invasion.

Screw the WMDs, crawdadin' alone was reason enough to bomb Iraq!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:04 PM
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19. LOL
Crawdadin'. I like most Americans, don't know what that means. :evilgrin:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:12 PM
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24. And seeing you are TEXAS blueeyes....
...that must mean it is a Connecticut Cowboy, or Kennebunkport Cowboy, expression!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:48 PM
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12. If inspectors had discovered that Saddam had
converted to Christianity (like that really matters), released all political prisoners, given his wealth away to the poor, and had installed a democratic republic based on the US's, the neocons still would trying to justify invading Iraq.
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shaolinmonkey Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:55 PM
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14. This is pure bullshit.
We know North Korea has nukes. We know that Iran wants them. We know Pakistan has them. We do nothing.

But, we invade a country with a penny-ante dictator who would really like to have nukes and that's okay. A great use of time and resouces, not to mention lives.

Unreal. Can we go back to when blowjobs were important? Please?

Honor and integrity my ass.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 12:57 PM
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15. Well Dang we were Duped Oh Well were there Deal with it
Called GoodBye Democracy

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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:00 PM
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16. Is it the President's job to take intelligence and make the right decision
Obviously this group had the intention to invade Iraq before 9/11 and fabricated evidence to act on.

All of us here at DU knew more about Saddam's capabilities than Bush did!

Why?
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:05 PM
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20. "Why" you ask?
Because the word "intelligence" and "Bush" don't belong in the same sentence. What the hell is wrong with people in this country who listen to this crap and eat it up? So now it's alright to have a stupid person in the Oval Office. Boy, have we ever lowered our standards in this country. I do believe if he gets another 4 years that this country gets what it deserves. Too bad it'll affect the rest of us more intelligent people too.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:03 PM
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17. He had Weapons of Mass Destruction Program Related Activities...
Dammit!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:03 PM
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18. He looks forward to improving his intelligence?
I hope so. But I doubt it.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:06 PM
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21. Evildoer. Enemy of freedom. Terror fries.
We did the right thing and would do it all over again knowing what we know now! Damnit!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:08 PM
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22. Best time to confess
...is when rockets are hitting the Sheraton in Iraq. He's hoping the story will sink. The weecowboy looked rather medicated, he wasn't slurring his words like he usually does (Ah'm George Bush, and Ah upprove this meshich").

I'm hoping the DNC takes that video of that Rose Garden admission and turns it into a commercial.

How many of our nation's kids are dead for this "mistake?" An afternoon "Oooops! Woopsie, we made a boo-boo" does not cut it with me.

The Chee-Nee argument that the oil for food business was "reason enough" is absolute HORSESHIT. If there's a problem with the UN program, why not simply TELL THE UN? It's their program, they should be given first crack at mending it. And it would have strengthened their arguments vis a vis UN reform. But no, weewee knows best. Of course, once the UN finishes digging into this, it won't just be Frenchies, Russkies, Egyptians and Turks who will be found to be 'on the take,' I'll bet you'll find the greedy paws of many US companies, through offshore surrogates, in there as well.

This has potential to be very, very explosive. Unfortunately, I do not believe there will be enough movement in this story to influence the elections....unless people keep bitching about it at every opportunity.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:10 PM
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23. Gaming the system?
The world is playing a challenging game of chess while Bush* insists on cheating at checkers. King Me!
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:16 PM
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26. Rose Garden, Bush, Manure......
Those roses should be so well fertilized by the bs that has been spread around out there during the past 4-years, that they will either be the most beautiful blooms that Mother Nature has ever seen or they will be totally be plumb burnt up.

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bringbackfdr Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:14 PM
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25. How about this for Kerry tomorrow night
"We have seen the evil-doer and he is slouching right over there.''
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:21 PM
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28. * took no question while responding to the report. Intellectual courage??
Is this really conservative accountability?
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RobertDevereaux Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 01:48 PM
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29. A thorn in the rose garden... n/t
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m_welby Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:21 PM
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33. but..but..its hard...
to read intelligence reports, answer questions, speak english and apparently ride a bike.

How was he supposed to know that condi didnt interpret the intelligence correctly?
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 02:44 PM
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36. So
Edited on Thu Oct-07-04 02:45 PM by WorstPresidentEver
Saddam wanted to have weapons of mass destruction related program activities some time in the future. No wonder Bush finds Presidentin' to be such hard, hard work... trying to wrap your brain round that one as an excuse for a pre-emptive war would be difficult for anyone.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-04 03:10 PM
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41. Please continue here
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