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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:43 PM
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CNN Bush Campaign to base ad on Kerry terror quote

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/10/bush.kerry.terror/index.html


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's campaign announced Sunday its plans to use as the basis of a new commercial a quote from an 8,000-word New York Times Magazine article about Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

The parsing prompted the Kerry camp to retort that the soon-to-be-released Bush ad was another example of the president's campaign taking words out of context to create a misleading impression.

The article, a largely analytical cover story in the magazine, says the interviewer asked Kerry "what it would take for Americans to feel safe again."

''We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance,'' the article states as the Massachusetts senator's reply.

''As a former law enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.''

Snip---

Bush campaign Chairman Marc Racicot, in an appearance on CNN's "Late Edition," interpreted Kerry's remarks as saying "that the war on terrorism is like a nuisance. He equated it to prostitution and gambling, a nuisance activity. You know, quite frankly, I just don't think he has the right view of the world. It's a pre-9/11 view of the world."

--Snip---

"This is yet another example of the Bush campaign taking John Kerry's words out of context, and then blowing it up into something that is nothing," he said.

"The whole article is about how John Kerry recognizes that the war on terror requires a multipronged approach. It's not just the military aspect, but you need diplomacy to be able to enlist your allies. The Bush people have never understood that. John Kerry has always said that terrorism is the No. 1 threat to the U.S."

--Snip___

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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:48 PM
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1. That is pathetic
I await the day the Bush actually runs a commercial predicated on his record as President.

I also await the day that pigs fly.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:49 PM
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2. Kerry's right. And that's the truth. n/t
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 08:37 PM
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33. The last thing Repubs want is safety
If people feel safe, the Repubs won't have anything to run on.
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Steelangel Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:50 PM
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3. once again
repukes love to spin. Nothing new, really...
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:54 PM
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6. I hope the Kerry campaign will take all the stupid comments
that Bush has made and make it into an ad and ask: "Do you really want someone this stupid and incompetent for four more years?"

I know, I know...the ad would be the length of an infomerical!! Maybe George Soros can do it. Can we ask him to do this?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:53 PM
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4. No where near as damning as *'s quotes about
bin Laden ( "I don't think about him anymore..." etc). I'd LOVE to see some DNC commercials based on those!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:55 PM
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The DLC should counter with an ad
quoting bush..war of the counter quote ads..see who wins that one.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:57 PM
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9. Bush Saying "We Can't Win The War On Terror" Ought To Do It.
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sexysenior Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:09 PM
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14. Or how about
his disappointment at not finding any WMD's which he expressed during the second debate?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:21 PM
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24. There's a million of them over the last four
years..bush has been very busy mouthing off LIES!
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:12 PM
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17. THEY BETTER
These people are sick. They will do anything.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:53 PM
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5. we have to believe that every day
more and more people see this for the pathetic, poorly reasoned bullshit it is.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:01 PM
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10. But they do believe Bush! That's the most baffling thing
about this entire presidency. I listen to callers on Washington Journal on C-Span. I'm appalled to hear people like the woman who called this morning to say that Kerry didn't look presidential and that she believed Bush and that he was a Christian, and she didn't believe Kerry and mentioning the Swift Boat BS! I want to ask these people where in the hell are they from. Have they not listened to him; have they read anything about him?

It just blows my mind. I will be so glad when this election is over and Bush is on his way out. I just hope he won't get us into another war in another country before he's gone.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:18 PM
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21. If you want to know where the people who supported Hitler to
the end came from, you're hearing them today.

These people are harmless as long as things go okay, they aren't inherently evil in themselves. Its just that there's something in them that wants, almost NEEDS, to beleive in the "leader" and once they commit, they commit to the end.

We're going to have a lot of trouble with these folks in the coming decades. Look at what happened to France when Napoleon came to power. Even after he was stowed away at Elba they wanted to follow him, and when he did get back into power, for however short and predoomed a time, they followed him again. If the Brits hadn't wised up and sensibly had him poisoned he would have remained a threat as long as he lived.

If Hitler was alive, there would be people following him yet. Hell, there are still people out there, living quiet, productive lives, who secretly know things would be so much better if the Fueher had won. These are the same people who beleive the Jews are lying about the Holocaust.

The same kind of people who beleive God put Bush in the White House.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:55 PM
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7. An immediate counter ad should appear
Showing Chimpy saying this and Kerry showing the exact context. This would show how they lie and distort. Slam them fast and hard and keep up the momentum.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:18 PM
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20. Agreed. Further,
they should show an ad of shrub at the first debate.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 06:56 PM
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8. I hope the Kerry campaign retorts with the "I'm not concerned about Osama
Bin Laden" quote Bush made 6 months after 911.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:01 PM
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11. Bush Hope-War Without End
There is only one way to interpret what Furious George and the radical Republicans are doing with this distortion and ad ...

Bush does not want the 'war on terror' to ever end.

Keeping Americans in fear is the Bush goal.

If ever there was a distortion and lie that demonstrates just how evil, sick, immoral, and fascistic Bush and his gang are ... this is it.
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Diana52 Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:43 PM
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30. I couldn't agree more!
I think this just shows that terrorism is Bush's re-selection tool. He was Wrong then, and he is Wrong now.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:05 PM
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12. Those M@#$#r F@#$%rs. I read the entire article last night and it is
Edited on Sun Oct-10-04 07:15 PM by Pirate Smile
actually rather impressive. God, they disgust me.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/10/magazine/10KERRY.html?oref=login&th

Here is the actual article. It is long but worth it. It will actually give you a better idea of how Kerry will deal with the WOT then we are able to get in campaign speechs or commercials.

You will really be pissed they are doing this after you read the entire article.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:11 PM
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15. I'm with you. They disgust me as well.
I would love to have the opportunity to tell the bastards how rotten they are. Every one of Bush's surrogates appear on these shows and lie through their teeth. After the first debate?, I saw Ed Gillespie trying to defend the idiot. He was really having a hard time trying to come up with an argument. He looked scared and had a stupid grin on his face the entire time to cover his own dismay at how dumb his boss sounded. I loved Terry McAuliff who just calmly put him down after each comment.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:50 PM
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31. Ed Gillespe -- have trouble lying? Then you KNOW it's bad for *
Everytime I've seen him, he's like a faucet of lies -- I don't know how that man can sleep at night. He must wake up in the morning and hold the razor over his wrists, the second that he looks at himself in the mirror.
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mfritz Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:06 PM
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13. Use Bush comments - can't win war on terrorism
Throw back Bush's famous comments that we can't win the war on terrorism. We can only hope to make terrorism less acceptable in certain parts of thw world. I'm paraphrasing, but the bit about making terrorism "less acceptable," and he used those words, really got my attention at the time.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:11 PM
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16. Gillespie glommed onto that on some prog I surfed across today..
something like "we'll never eliminate prostitution, illegal gambling (maybe something else, I wasn't paying that much attention), but we can 'reduce' it..."

He better be hoping he never meets me in a dark alley.
:grr:
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:12 PM
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18. May I help?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:22 PM
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25. Shrub's statements.
Kerry campaign should run an ad titled GW Bush Flip Flop.

Run the statement where shrub says that the US will pursue Osama bin Laden dead or alive. I don't have that one. Here is the actual statement of the flip flop.

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
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oly Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:16 PM
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19. When I hear the repugs glorify the chimp for his "terror" work
or put down Kerry for being soft on terror, I just tell them that 3000 people are pretty much buried in a Statin Island landfil because the chimp wasn't watching their backs and/or was sleeping at the switch. The ditto-heads usually go directly to Clinton as a retort, to which I say that George and Laura could have had a baby by the time Clinton left and 911 happened even with George's 3 inch macho woody.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:21 PM
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22. I can't imagine why Congressman Ryan's rant isn't being played
on every tv set in America.

Hey, Mr. Soros? Want to spend a few bucks? Set up a 527 just to play the video and vocal track of that short speech in every block of time you can buy.

That would be nice.
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Peanut Gallery Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:21 PM
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23. "pre-9/11 view of the world"
Edited on Sun Oct-10-04 08:00 PM by Ravenswood
The irony of this statement is - if they had paid more attention, according to the 9/11 commission's findings, we might still have a "pre-9/11 view of the world" because those events might not have happened.

Of course that would have required an administration that actually gives a damn, and one that doesn't seem to have such a keen interest in profiting (politically, financially and otherwise) from human suffering.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:24 PM
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26. it's pretty hypocritical
when Bush himself said we can't "win" the "war on terror". I'm guessing Kerry could flip this by asking Bush if he thinks Americans are so naive that they think terrorism will ever be eliminated completely.

But this is the problem with these long feature stories, you never know what nugget you'll say where the entire article will be cherry-picked for an exploitable comment your opponent will use. Chimp avoids much of these problems by being a press hermit on the campaign, limiting access.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:26 PM
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27. Are they always this obtuse?
They love to pretend not to understand Kerry, in the hope that Joe Sixpack will pick up on that ignorance and share it. I hope that most Americans can see the game they're playing. Any normal human being who reads Kerry's quote can see that the right is twisting what he said. (Um, are there any normal human beings left?)

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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:31 PM
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28. I read that ABC printed the quote that Cheney used and printed the
whole quote next to Cheney's remark to indicate how they had taken his words out of context. I hope other news sources follow suit.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 07:42 PM
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29. QUITE FRANKLY, YOU DUMB ASSES AT THE RNC...Kerry is RIGHT
Edited on Sun Oct-10-04 07:44 PM by Carni
Terrorism IS a nuisance...and it isn't the FOCAL POINT of my God damned life.

I am far more afraid of being killed in a car wreck (esp the way the empowered freaking right wingers tailgate in their damned SUV's while they yak on the phone doing 90 MPH) or carjacked, or murdered because this economy is in such a suck ass state!

I am FAR MORE AFRAID of going to the Dr and finding out that the sore throat I have, or the mole that doesn't look quite right, is cancer, because I haven't had insurance most of the God damned time since your piece of shit candidate took office.

Am I some *slob* on welfare?

No ASSHOLES, I am the typical working American that hasn't even been able to recognize this country, or it's people, since YOUR KIND took control.

Keep using that talking point dickheads... because you are so out of touch that you don't even realize that the bulk of the public knows that Kerry is right!
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 08:07 PM
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32. Kerry needs to continue
with his immaturity theme. These people really do sound like third graders.
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