Voter Registrations Trashed - RNC Funded Firm Destroys Dem Registrations

[Dickie Flatt]

Link

Employees of a private voter registration company allege that hundreds, perhaps thousands of voters who may think they are registered will be rudely surprised on election day. The company claims hundreds of registration forms were thrown in the trash. ...

Two former workers say they personally witnessed company supervisors rip up and trash registration forms signed by Democrats.

"We caught her taking Democrats out of my pile, handed them to her assistant and he ripped them up right in front of us. I grabbed some of them out of the garbage and she tells her assisatnt to get those from me," said Eric Russell, former Voters Outreach employee. ...

The company has been largely, if not entirely funded, by the Republican National Committee. Similar complaints have been received in Reno where the registrar has asked the FBI to investigate.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

1. Somebody should be going to jail.

[NVMojo]

44. true but look at this.

the election was stolen last time and most of the Dems just sat on their thumbs and took it like adults.

They are poor sports, rude little bastards who are so spoiled they can't deal with not getting their own ways. That is why they resort to juvenile bullshit that they should be locked away for. We are letting the tyrants grow in their own power and minds exponentially because we are too decent and they are flying too low.

[RaleighNCDUer]

118. Only this is not some juvenile prank! This is a deliberate attempt

to subvert the democratic process by fascist thugs. This should be on the front page of every paper in the country.

Get the word out! If they did it there, they could have done it anywhere. No new registration is safe. If you have any doubt, check it out.

[Sterling]

156. an adult would have stood up for democracy

That is what grown ups do.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

157. You get enough of these horses' asses ripping up Dem registrations....

...and we're back to square one as far as the numbers of likely Democratic Party voters.

[Zorra]

121. They may be caught on video:

"Anyone who has recently registered or re-registered to vote outside a mall or grocery store or even government building may be affected."

Pretty good chance most of these folks have their faces video recorded by surveillance cameras. If the tapes still exist it should be a simple matter for law enforcement to round them up and determine the guilty parties.

I hope they all get 10 years without parole.

They are traitors.

[NMDemDist2]

2. crap we were told not to accept repub ones, just hand them the form and

leave it up to them to mail it in

i assume these were paid registars?

[Rose Siding]

7. I've read of some forms having rtn addys to Repub addresses...

with an assurance that it would be handled by them. Now I don't personally KNOW anyone that would trust them, but I'll bet there are some who wouldn't have thought it through. damn damn damn!

[iamjoy]

22. That's What I Usually Did

Although, actually, I was working at the local campaign office and a few weeks ago a woman (one of our other volunteers) comes in with a voter registration form her friend had completed. It was all sealed up, but we reviewed all the ones we turned in, so I opened it and noticed the friend had registered Republican. So I pointed it out to the volunteer who became upset because the friend had told her she was going to register "No Party Affiliation" I offered to take it anyway, but the woman took it back and went to confront her friend.

Anyway, when I was out canvassing, I took "no party" but simply gave the Republicans the form to submit on their own. I won't commit fraud but darned if I was going to help Republicans vote.

[CO Liberal]

160. I Was Told to Accept Every Registration - Dem or GOP

Which I did while working for Project VOTE - and I turned them all in.

Even the Republican ones. I wasn't gonna risk any jail time.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. Where is the outrage?

Where are the TV Squawking Heads? Where are the editorials? Where is the FBI?

Oh...wrong country.

[KittyWampus]

25. Potential Remedy- Allow Provisional Ballots For ANYONE Who Says

they registered but are not on the rolls.

Long as their legal then they should be allowed to cast a vote.

If this story is true, then soemthing must be done to ensure that noone's right to vote is taken away.

[demokatgurrl]

143. That is the law now-

at least in my state (PA).
A good thing but also liable for abuse. For example, hordes of Republicans could flood polls in key areas and cast provisional ballots- it would take some time to sort it all out and get the votes counted.

[Rose Siding]

4. We have to hurry and send this to the Oregon media!!!!!

OMG, this is a freaking NIGHTMARE!

snip>
The landlord says Voters Outreach was evicted for non-payment of rent. Another source said the company has now moved on to Oregon where it is once again registering voters.

Send this article to ALL the Oregon papers and TV stations!

[Dookus]

11. It'd be better

to send it to Nevada media, seeing as how it happened in Nevada :)

[Rose Siding]

19. Nevada is on to them! Oregon is where it says they've gone to set up shop

[aquart]

12. What states were they in before Nevada????

[llywrch]

112. The Oregon Media already Knows

I saw this on last night's evening news (I thought the piece aired on KOIN, but I can only find the story on KGW's website). What I remember on the newscast had a few details not on this webpage:
*Johnson, the canvasser said he originally was from Ohio, & identified himself as an employee working for Voters Outreach of America.
*When asked how much he was paid, he said he earned $3 for each Republican voter registration, & nothing for a Democratic.
*The newstation found Johnson's supervisor nearby, who refused to appear on camera, but confirmed much of what Johnson said.

FWIW, Johnson is an African-American, as was the spokesperson from the Republican party who denied knowing anything about this sham registration effort.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_101304_news_voter_fraud_.2a2c6f98.html (registration required)

Oregon Secretary of State Bill Bradbury and Attorney General Hardy Myers plan to investigate allegations that a paid canvasser might have destroyed voter registration forms.

<snip>

Bradbury learned of the conduct from KGW, which interviewed Mike Johnson, 20, a canvasser who said he was instructed to only accept Republican registration forms. He told the TV reporter that he "might" destroy forms turned in by Democrats.

Geoff

[wildeyed]

5. I hope they hold someone accountable for this.

It seems like mostly people get away with it. The election is compromised and it is too late to do anything about it. I would like to see jail time for the guiltu parties. Make them think twice about doing it if they thought they might be spending time in jail.

[Amigust]

10. It should be punishable by imprisonment.

eom

[aquart]

13. I believe it is.

[Gato Moteado]

101. 10 years prison in some states.....

....for conspiracy to violate someone's civil rights.

they should all be in prison with john ashkroft and the rest of the bush admin joining them.

[arwalden]

142. Not Nearly Enough Punishment...

... for doing something that would CHANGE the course of history by electing Bush for another 4 years!!

-- Allen

[screembloodymurder]

86. Yes. The whole republican party.

They should all go to jail.

[RaleighNCDUer]

120. Maybe we could do that. I hear they've already built the

concentration camps.

[lovuian]

6. The FBI investigate RIGHT!!!

See how they are going to rig this election...

[cthrumatrix]

119. BTW...what is Asscroft going to do about this....?

[genius]

8. Something simliar was witnessed in Orange County, CA

Democratic Party officials seem to think the Republicans wouldn't do anything wrong with registrations and that the stack they were seen tearing up must have been bad or they wouldn't have done it. But what if they weren't?

[tibbir]

9. Every time I think they've hit a new low,

they suprise me. The repukes will stop at nothing to get chimpy elected.

[Amigust]

14. You ain't seen nothin' yet, if they get in again ...

eom

[tibbir]

15. I live in terror thinking about that.

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. If this country gives a damn about presenting a valid election process...

a federal investigation should be started at once! This is just heinous! I've never seen an admininstration that has had such long tendrils of corruption attached to it.

[Zorra]

17. Republicans are evil snakes. Completely morally diseased. n/t

[VegasWolf]

144. I thought that they were the party of God! n/t

[truthisfreedom]

18. jail time. JAIL TIME FOR THESE WEASELS. make an example of 'em...

DEMORALIZE 'EM.

[bobbieinok]

20. MAKE A COPY OF EVERYTHING....ESP WHEN DEALING WITH VOTING AND REPUBS

[aquart]

21. Oh, look, they were in Arizona for Nader.

<http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/19886.php>

Nor has Nader denounced the covert assistance his Arizona ballot-qualification effort received from Sproul, who is currently running the No Taxpayer Money For Politicians" initiative, a right-wing effort to ban candidates from receiving public financing. According to several sources, two of the contractors Sproul hired to oversee petition gathering for No Taxpayer Money For Politicians -- Aaron "A.J." James, who directs Voters' Outreach of America, and Diane Burns -- were also paid by Sproul to get as many signatures as possible for Nader. "Aaron told me he "was out there getting signatures for Nader."

[JRicks_GA]

30. Another link

Formatting for Indy Media article is messed up. Here's another link.

<http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=7954

[0007]

23. Jays'us fucking christ isn't there an end to this shit?

[Steelangel]

24. Jesus, that is new low.

but again, from repukes, I am not surprise.

[Greyskye]

26. Watch the video on the linked page

It is even more damning the the written article, and it sounds like there is more to this - they were also discarding the 'registration receipts', which are peel off stickers which were proof that you had been registered. They promised more details about that on an upcoming newscast.

[Roland99]

63. Wow...amazing

Fascism in action!

[loudsue]

27. This is one of the most important stories out there about this election.

We should link this story to every news outlet in the country. This is CRIMINAL as hell, and OBVIOUSLY UN-AMERICAN!!!! These people are traitors to Democracy, and should be treated as traitors.

If the FBI won't handle it, call 'em terrorists and sic the CIA on them. The CIA isn't too happy with the neocons, anyway!

This fricking SUCKS!!! Spread the word far & wide, DUers, and get everyone you can to RE-register or check their registration!!

:kick::kick::kick::kick:

[qanda]

28. This is scary...

I remember a poster on DU saying that they suspected that a table registering college students was doing something like this. I think they had called to see if they were actually registered and found out that they were not. I certainly hope a big stink will be made of this.

[TacticalPeek]

29. Kick. Kick. Kick. Kick. Kick. Kick. Kick.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

31. Holy SHIT! Funded by the RNC? This makes Watergate look like

jaywalking!

This had better hit the media!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

32. Why the hell did these employees not speak up until now?!?

[Dickie Flatt]

33. VOTER'S OUTREACH JOB LISTING PAID FOR BY RNC!

See it here!

Important KOS diary HERE.

[Gaffey Duck]

34. Jail?

You people are weak.

People who deny others their democratic rights should be locked away together and starved to death.

It would make a great reality TV show.

[dave502d]

35. This just makes me sick.

[Pithlet]

36. This is infuriating.

If this doesn't warrant jail time, it should, if they're found guilty. Voting is a fundamental right, and anyone that blocks it should be guilty of a felony. This should be all over the news. :mad:

[Judi Lynn]

37. Is there still time for the people affected to re-register?

I really hope they can all get right back on the rolls or have special permission to do it again, as the chance to vote has been stolen from them.

We should expect things like this, given Republicans' records, however it still stuns you when it happens again, as it simply shouldn't happen, no excuses.

Pathetic bastards. Thanks for posting this article, Dickie Flatt. It's so important people know about this.

[AlFrankenFan]

38. Fuck this needs to get the hell out to the media

Arrests need to be made! This is a goddamned crime! I'm spreading the word!

[Mary0505]

39. ANGRY

I'm so mad right now!!! Burning up! And they wonder why we're angry! We have to do something now!

[Gaffey Duck]

40. I'd say Las Vegas' CBS affiliate is defintely "the media"...

lol

[Lorien]

41. DAMN STRAIGHT!!!

Media list is here on DU; SEND IT FAR AND WIDE!

And don't forget to ask your LOCAL media to cover it!

[VegasWolf]

42. This has been all over the evening news here. Local stations

have tried to track down this crap company but they have
run for the hills. Local news is making a big deal of the
fact that only Democrat's registrations were thrown away
and that the Repugnants sponsored this co's activities.
No news yet as to what will happen to the
disenfranchised voters!

New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional

[Polemonium]

56. That is encouraging, but let's keep making noise

I've been going out of my way to help everyone register, and this kind of thing is most illegal (let's make sure some people get prosecuted).

[TankLV]

43. Well, that explains the sudden last minute surge in repukes over democrats

in registrations this past month!

This is war, folks.

Let's see - I bet they get NOTHING or at MOST - a fine - and the poor slobs who aren't registered won't be able to vote bunkerboy out.

So - it at MOST will cost them a fine - money well spent.

Folks - we've GOT to begin doing all the nasty, illegal things, too.

THEY set the new ground rules!

Offer to take repukes to the polls and drive the AWAY from the polling stations, or drive to the wrong ones.

WE should be shredding and destroying repuke things.

THIS IS WAR.

The brownshirts have started this war, and by god we should finish it!

Absentee ballots thrown away - from only Democrats.

Military special excuses allowed for illegal repuke ballots COUNTED.

This won't change until we give them a BIG DOSE of their own medicine.

That's my opinion.

Take it or not.

I am so mad at this since the coup in 2000 that I could spit blood.

Nice doesn't cut it anymore.

[NVMojo]

45. I'm telling you, this was all planned a year ago and steady since then

with Rove and the bush gang and the elected Repukes in the state of Nevada who control the Secretary of State office, the Governor, the AG's office ...need I go on? KARL ROVE IS FROM RENO!!! Brother owns Granite Construction. Sister is married to an Elko County boy. Nevada is the next Florida with family connections to the Bush administration connected to people running the election and stumping for him....I wish I could put some money on this. It must be Nevada in me coming out but I am worried I will win.

[Mary0505]

47. They're in Portland right now

I just called KOIN news in Portland their sister station. 503-464-0600 pressed 1 for news. They said they are going to have a story about it tonight and they don't believe any were trashed in POrtland. Yea Right!!!! Sounded like a freeper answering the phone.

[aquart]

48. Tar? Feathers? Follow them around and warn people?

[SoCalDem]

64. Follow them and VIDEO them

:)

[JPace]

46. Wow.....

I am lost for words.

Dear God but republicans have gotten so damned mean
and spiteful they want to destroy everything that is
decent about our nation just to own it. God help us!

[Democat]

49. If they don't go to jail, then this will go on more and more

But they won't because Bush himself is the head criminal.

The Democratic Party should run ads with interviews with the employees of this company showing Republicans cheating and lying.

We need to show the pattern of cheating, lies, and crimes from Bush and his party.

[Steelangel]

50. Do we know anyone we can contact to get busy with that?

I got the feeling that was not only one - three states.. it is probably country-wide effect. we need to stop them or inform to media or whatever concerning about that..

[budkin]

51. Keep kicking this bullshit!

Kick kick kick!

[seafan]

52. Just sent to Kerry campaign. This has to STOP!!!!!!!

Flood the media, Senators and Reps for all we are worth!

Let's GO.

[w4rma]

53. This is major. This is criminal. And this story needs to be spread far

and wide. Democrats who signed up, need to know what may have happened to their registrations. And this needs to be in the NATIONAL news, not just local. This affects more than one area.

[NC_Nate]

59. Does anyone know

If they are charged, would it be a federal crime?
It is sicking...

(Long time lurker, 2nd Post..Great Forum! Kerry 04'!!)

[RaleighNCDUer]

122. I think a charge of violating civil rights could be pursued. That

would make it federal.

Welcome to DU!

[fsbooks]

54. We need same day registration

When I lived in Massachusetts, and in Maine, a person could register on polling day just by showing up with a letter addressed to a proper address at the polling place. Registrations deadlines are a hindrance to voting and obviously prone to more fraud than same day registration could ever be.

[Steelangel]

55. I definitely will have to make many calls

to senators & representatives (democrats) in state where I live in tomorrow morning about that.. that lame action definitely need to stop.

[Star]

57. The freepers are saying this is a dem outfit

Because Voters' Outreach of America is also known as "America Votes". But look at this:

Nader's Dubious Raiders in Arizona

...In addition, according to several sources, the Nader campaign was assisted in its petition drive by an unlikely figure: the ultra-conservative former executive director of the Arizona Republican Party, Nathan Sproul.

snip...
According to several sources, two of the contractors Sproul hired to oversee petition gathering for No Taxpayer Money For Politicians -- Aaron "A.J." James, who directs Voters' Outreach of America, and Diane Burns -- were also paid by Sproul to get as many signatures as possible for Nader. "Aaron told me he was out there getting signatures for Nader. So I can only assume that Diane was too," said Derek Lee, who, as owner of Lee Petitions, was part of the traveling petition carnival that descended on Arizona this spring. "The only thing I can tell you for sure is that Aaron was working with Nathan on this Nader thing. I've heard that from a number of people but they put the hush-hush on it real quick." Reached by phone, Burns and James were clearly nonplussed; when asked if they were hired by Sproul to get signatures for Nader, both immediately hung up. Neither responded to follow-up interview requests.


http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/19886.php

and then there's this:

Librarian bares possible voter registration dodge
Company claiming affiliation with the non-partisan ‘America Votes’ group appears to represent the GOP

... Sproul & Associates, Inc. of Phoenix, Ariz., phoned and mailed the library in September, saying it had been hired by America Votes.

That came as news to America Votes.

"This organization (Sproul) absolutely has nothing to do with America Votes," said Kevin Looper, the state organizing director for America Votes.

http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2004/0921/local/stories/02local.htm

read these articles. These people are pure scum.

[AIJ Alom]

58. Hold on a sec peeps, what if they were ripping the registration cards for

Democrats that support Bush ? Wouldn't that be funny !!! One can only hope that they compounded their mistakes and will now pay for it !!!

[TankLV]

60. Will never happen. Just like the old biddie scum in Florida who ADMITTED

doing illegal things.

One got elected to congress, for christsake!

Absolutely NOTHING will happen to these scum.

Of that I am convinced.

And one can only go by the RECORD, and so far, not a single repuke has paid for cheating - ever!

Chalk it up to the cost of "doing business".

[RaleighNCDUer]

141. It would be nice,

but I suspect Zell has already been registered for some time.

[Roland99]

61. Truly DISGUSTING!!

What is the penalty for this crime.


20 years in a Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison better be the fucking minimum!!!!

[American liberal]

62. oh the insanity of it all...

and a fallout of it may be that those who registered recently may think they are not eligible to vote and don't show up at the polls! damned if you do and damned if you don't. oh, the treachery!!!

and I've watched the news in Vegas. It's a very different climate out there, literally and figuratively, from my strongly Democratic city by the lake.

This could have devastating consequences for the turnout in Nevada. I just don't know what to believe anymore.

[PartyPooper]

65. Florida redux? These criminals deserve to go to prison for life!

:mad:

[Zorra]

66. So if Bu$h wins, it full-on means that the election was stolen.

I am not going to take that.

[0rganism]

68. Sadly, despite his record, bush could actually win legitimately

At least 45% of the soon-to-be voters in this crumbling nation are on the verge of voting for the moron. He has commanding leads throughout the Southeast and Rocky Mountain states. It's close. Close enough to be stolen, and close enough that he might not need to steal it.

[Zorra]

69. No, he already has lost legitimacy through documented widespread

voter fraud committed by republicans, such as the fraud posted as a topic in this thread.

Bu$h is already not a legitimately elected leader, and his supporters have now undermined the possibility that he can be legitimately elected. They've already been caught cheating.

John Kerry is the only candidate that can legitimately win this election now.

IMO, if Bu$h "wins" the election, no Democrat that cares about America should recognize him, or support him or his fraudulently gained dictatorship.

[0rganism]

70. So, if bush wins (legally or otherwise) what are you going to do?

Seriously. If you're right, this is a decision you're possibly going to be making in a month or two. What's your plan?

And what will you do if Kerry wins and "no Republican that cares about America" accepts the result?

[Zorra]

104. Democrats are not demonstrably committing voter fraud on any mass scale.

Republicans are.

It is already quite apparent that most republicans have abandoned any sense of logic, reason, justice, and fair play, so what they do is usually based what could be viewed as insanity anyway. They do not care about what is fair in a democratic sense. They want their way, and they will lie, cheat, and steal to get it. Democracy means nothing to them.

And Bu$h already stole one election through fraud.

What am I going to do if Bu$h gets "selected" again? I left the country after Bu$h was chosen as dictator and have barely participated in the US economic system for almost 4 years. I don't buy from it, and I do not support the Bu$h dictatorship or his filthy war for corporate profit in any way.

I do not want any innocent blood on my hands or my conscience.

I am going to try to convince as many Americans as I can to boycott republican corporations and to engage in a long term nationwide general strike.

The honest People of the United States simply can not allow their democracy to be stolen by the undeniably corrupt republican party. These people are basically un-American, un-democratic totalitarian fascists and most of them don't have the intelligence, self awareness, and the education or life experience to give them the historical and socio-political background to realize it and understand what they are supporting.

(Although, I guess it is possible that they really do understand what they are supporting, and they really are rotten little nazi wannabes.)

Because of their fanatical zeal to force their ways and beliefs on everyone else that does not believe the same as they do, they have accepted that cheating in elections is an acceptable and legitimate way to overthrow our democratic government.

Republicans are taking America down the same road as the Nazis took Germany in the 1930's. It is a different form of a somewhat similar philosophy, but the results of the application of this philosophy will be be similar.

War, death, destruction, domestic repression of rights and liberties, police state oppression, and widespread human misery.

I'm not going there, and no patriotic American should either. We should not have accepted the Bu$h selection the first time around, and if we accept it this time, democracy in America is over.

[Steelangel]

71. If we sit back and do nothing...

you are right that Bush probably could actually win legitimately.. it is on our hands to change or not.

I definitely want to change but does democrats want to do that too? it is entirely up to all of you. I definitely will make many calls about that.

[Oak2004]

73. A mass media that deliberately misleads the public

is incompatible with a legitimate Bush victory.

[Steelangel]

74. how true...

[0rganism]

67. MY LETTER TO THE OREGON SEC. OF STATE

[e-mail]
Oct. 12, 2004
Dear Oregon Secretary of State executive office:

According to this article from Las Vegas, Nevada

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe

"...The out-of-state firm has been in Las Vegas for the past few months, registering voters. It employed up to 300 part-time workers and collected hundreds of registrations per day, but former employees of the company say that Voters Outreach of America only wanted Republican registrations.

"Two former workers say they personally witnessed company supervisors rip up and trash registration forms signed by Democrats...

"...The landlord says Voters Outreach was evicted for non-payment of rent. Another source said the company has now moved on to ***Oregon*** where it is once again registering voters...

"...The company has been largely, if not entirely, funded by the Republican National Committee. Similar complaints have been received in Reno where the registrar has asked the FBI to investigate."

I trust you are on top of this. Please take whatever swift and direct actions are necessary to preserve the integrity of the elections process from illegal activities by private partisan organizations of ANY ideological bent. You are entrusted with protection of the essence of democracy in this state; we the people are counting on you to verify that the election proceeds without this sort of vicious tampering.

I anticipate your immediate action with respect to these most serious allegations.

Thanks in advance,
******* **********
Oregon Voter

[Zhade]

72. This is another reason why Dems should be registering as Republicans.

At least then they know their forms would be processed, and they could vote against that asshole in the White House anyway.

[phylny]

149. No need to.

We moved to a new state and I knew I had to register. I did - EARLY. I called and checked, and I got my voter's registration card in the mail.

Of course, I totally disagree with the disgusting behavior of right wingers who'll do anything to make Bush win, but people need to take responsibility and register early, check, recheck.

[ThoughtCriminal]

75. Has anyone tracked down the Oregon Office(s)?

nt

[951]

76. kick, nominate and forward to the Kerry campaign

[Hekate]

77. These evil, evil, evil bastards

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!

God damn it to hell, now I am going to cry.

Hekate

[dansolo]

78. They hate us for our freedoms.

Sound familiar?

[fishface]

79. Just e-mailed it to David Broder of the Washington Post

and even gave it to Drudge. We'll see if he runs with it.

[fishface]

80. kick

[Blue_Tires]

136. ttt n/t

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

81. LBN rules.

Not to pick a nit, but you should change the title of your thread to conform to LBN rules.

[Keirsey]

82. Michael Moore

Doesn't Moore have local people signed up to document voter fraud? If so, he needs to get them to interview these people on camera.

Moore could also offer the footage to Greg Palast in case Greg is planning another film about Dubya and his cabal stealing this election, too.

[jamesinca]

83. They have no shame

The Oct. 9 Fresno Bee here in Central California (heavy republican) reported that the Spanish language ballots only in Tulare county had the voting date of Nov. 4 printed in them. Only the Spanish language ones, not the English language ones. A little misinformation to a heavy democrat voting block. Thye truly have no shame.

[Judi Lynn]

84. Keeping this thread kicked for further developements.

God forbid this vicious Republican trick will pass unchecked.

[Blue Gardener]

85. Kick Again

I despise these people more and more every day.

[WillyT]

87. GOD DAMMIT KICK !!!

:kick:

[WillyT]

89. BTW - Is Kerry's Army Of Voter Protection Lawyers On This Yet ???

Anybody know?

:shrug:

[colonel odis]

88. the worst part is, you can imagine how rove and co. are snickering

over this. they probably think it'll be funny as hell when people show up to vote -- some of them for the first time -- only to be told they're not registered.

if i were in the shoes of someone like that, i don't think i could keep from shutting down the polling place. the person who told me i wasn't on the rolls would be pulled across the table by his/her ear and encouraged to check the rolls again. and again. and again. until my name turned up.

i have a suspicion this is all going to turn violent before it's over. republicans know the world is on to them for what they did in 2000. what they may not be taking into account is that if they do something like it again, people won't sit back and take it.

if bush steals this election, people with b/c stickers on their cars may be surprised at the anger from kerry supporters. it wouldn't surprise me if every kerry supporter in the east heads to washington and completely shuts down the city.

bush may steal the election, but the aftermath wouldn't be pretty.

[Mad_Dem_X]

90. Unbe-fricken-lieveable!

kick

[cthrumatrix]

92. where is our Attourney General..?

[missile_bender]

91. You know, a literal reading of the "Patriot Act"

defines these crimes as "terrorism". People have been jailed for years without benefit of lawyers for less evidence. Oh, well, Ashcroft thinks Bush works for Yahweh.

[chimpymustgo]

95. Kick for justice.

nt

[snippy]

93. How very republican. n/t

[tom_paine]

94. This is going on all across the nation in various forms

From Faux "News" helping disenfranchise ASY students to Jeb's naked Voter Intimidation Drive in Florida and I know I've seen at least two others.

The Busheviks have the same respect for people's votes as Hitler.

They just can't be as above-board and direct about the measures they take.

Lucky us, eh?

[thecrow]

96. Kick ! This is disgusting!!!!!

[moggie]

97. Obvious potential for abuse

As an outsider (I'm in the UK) watching your election runup, I've found myself thinking "holy shit!" on an almost daily basis, and today is no exception. I really fear for where your country (and the world) is headed if those evil bastards manage to steal it again in November.

But here's something which has always puzzled me: why do your voter registration forms show party affiliation? :wtf: Isn't the ballot supposed to be secret? The potential for abuse is so blatantly obvious! When a UK citizen registers to vote, there's no place on the form for them to indicate their political preference. This is not to say that there's no electoral fraud, of course, but the solution to this particular form of fraud seems so obvious...

[Mister K]

98. You have the choice of....

registering as a Democrat, a Republican, or Independent. If you register as a Democrat, you can vote in Democratic Primary Elections where you elect Democratic candidates to vote for later. The same is true for Republicans.

In the November elections, you can vote for anyone regardless of party affiliation.

[JPZenger]

99. Provisional Ballot

We need to publicize the provisional ballot. Under Federal law, if there is any question whether a person is properly registered, they now have the ability to fill out a provisional ballot. This allows the election officials to check after the election to see whether that ballot should be counted or not.

However, some State officials (such as Ohio's Sec. of State Blackwell) are saying that a provisional ballot can only be offered if voter is able to prove at the polls that they live within that precinct. This is the subject of a court challenge by the Ohio Democratic Party.

[TankLV]

134. This won't help at all in this instance. The persons whose ballots the

repukes trashed are not legally registered and are out of luck and have absolutely NO recourse in time for this election.

That is what the local elections official said last nite.

THEY CHEAT & THEY WIN!

Now.

What can we do about it?

I say, they have given us a formidable and completely clear picture of what we need to do.

WE NEED TO CHEAT AND LIES AND STEAL VOTES AND PREVENT AS MANY OF THE REPUKES FROM VOTING AND MAKING SURE AS MANY OF US DEMOCRATS VOTE, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT TECHNICALLY QUALIFIED BY DOING THE EXACT SAME THING THE REPUKES DO, BUT DOING IT BETTER.

THEY started this war - we will have to finish it.

Sorry, but unless there is a REMEDY TO THE ILLEGAL ACTIONS AND SEVERE AND LASTING PENALTIES AND PUNISHMENT, then what's the point of Democrats playing fair and losing and possibly getting killed like in NAZI Germany while the repukes continually do this shit?

[moggie]

102. These should be separated

Giving ordinary voters a say in candidate selection is more equitable than the situation in many (most?) countries, but it just doesn't seem healthy for the state machinery run by party A to know that you're for party B. I don't have an ideal solution, needless to say!

Thanks for the answer.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

116. In Brazil, these two are separated

You register to vote and get a voter ID.

Then, IF you want to act within a political party, you register in it, get a neat little card with that party's logo and vote on its primaries or whatever means of choosing candidates said party has chosen.

And you don't have to disclose party affiliation to ANYbody (unless, of course, you want to run for something).

Much more reasonable.

[Tsiyu]

114. This depends on the State as well

Here in Tennessee, we don't claim any party affiliation on voter reg forms. Other states require the choice. We decide which primary we are voting in at the time we show up to vote. Repukes get a certain color ballot and Dems get another. Still ripe for abuse, but at least you are registered.

I am beginning to believe that every single Republican is a criminal in one way or another. There is nothing "godly" in this activity. There is nothing patriotic. This would have been the type of fraud they tied to Saddam to show us how "corrupt" he was during the media's frenzied sales pitch for the Iraq war. We would hopefully all sigh and wonder how such leaders come to power.

It's easy. Just let a Republican try to run ANYTHING without lies, greed and corruption. They simply cannot be honest, decent folks. And they love to elect criminals just like themselves.....God himself or herself is no doubt shocked beyond belief at this point.

On Edit: i before e except after....

[geniph]

147. It depends on the state

not all states require voters to register a party preference. Here in Washington state, we don't. People were furious about the primary ballot change this year that required them to select one or the other. But we still don't require voters to register a party, and hopefully never will.

I think we need U.N. election observers, like some kind of damned banana republic trying to hold off a military coup! This is so humiliating and shameful. We're supposed to be a democracy, for heavens' sakes, not a monarchical plutocracy with inbred shitheads inheriting the head of state not by any virtue other than birth!

[illuminaughty]

154. How much room ya got left in England

The colonists may be coming home! Having lived throughout Europe and Middle East I'm always thinking how the rest of the world is viewing our insanity we're calling a democracy. This is embarassing.

You are right to be fearful. Our country is in danger and not of the terrorist kind. And those in power have plans to take the world along with us on this hell ride.

As John Paul Jones said, "I have not yet begun to fight" We are not giving up.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

100. This company has been in several swing states

DU'er Kipepeo has done some research on this thread in GD 04:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1046679#1046784

[reprobate]

103. Why is anyone surprised?

We all know that the Republican party is an Ongoing Criminal Enterprise.

[jasmeel]

105. I emailed the Nevada Dem Party and asked if they'd have

provisional ballots on hand. This is the reply I got.

Re: your question about their availability - we have
talked to both registrars to ensure that they are
there. our first preference though will be to fix the
problem or issue that is pushing the voter to
provisional since those aren't a full ballot, etc. ...


<I think she's saying provisional ballots aren't full ballots and they are going to "fix the problem". I can't imagine how since many of the ballots are long gone in the trash. Anyway, I emailed some other people there, I hope they will get back to me.>

[Say_What]

106. NADER and Voters Outreach of America

From Indymedia Arizon in June 2004:

Nader's Dubious Raiders in Arizona

...Nor has Nader denounced the covert assistance his Arizona ballot-qualification effort received from Sproul, who is currently running the No Taxpayer Money For Politicians" initiative, a right-wing effort to ban candidates from receiving public financing. According to several sources, two of the contractors Sproul hired to oversee petition gathering for No Taxpayer Money For Politicians -- Aaron "A.J." James, who directs Voters' Outreach of America, and Diane Burns -- were also paid by Sproul to get as many signatures as possible for Nader. "Aaron told me he was out there getting signatures for Nader. So I can only assume that Diane was too," said Derek Lee, who, as owner of Lee Petitions, was part of the traveling petition carnival that descended on Arizona this spring. "The only thing I can tell you for sure is that Aaron was working with Nathan on this Nader thing. I've heard that from a number of people but they put the hush-hush on it real quick." Reached by phone, Burns and James were clearly nonplussed; when asked if they were hired by Sproul to get signatures for Nader, both immediately hung up.


http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/19886.php

[huskerlaw]

107. Post this EVERYWHERE

I just posted it in numerous livejournal communities and I already got a response from someone saying that he looked up his voter registration and there was no record.

Get out the word so that the people affected have a chance to re-register!!

[topgun77]

108. SIMPLE SOLUTION - WE REGISTER REPUBLICAN and switch after nov 2.

IF we register as republicans they won't know who is who. That would be one way we could get around this scam. Then when we take the country back, we impose some laws to make this crap impossible and register back to the good old Democratic Party.

[RaleighNCDUer]

124. Nice, but won't they then scream fraud when a heavily Republican

district votes Dem? You betchya.

[Voice_of_Europe]

155. Totally messed up US voting system...

- You have to register as a voter?????? Why??

I am a Swiss citizen = I am a swiss voter! No additional registration needed!! Every person 1 vote!
Disenfranchising people, even felons, is nothing else than undemocratic!
Taking away someones vote means you FEAR them.



- You have to register Republican or Democratic ????

Leaving aside that a 2-party-system is totally ridiculous (1 more party than a 1-party dictatorship.. wow).
You have to say in advance what you're going to vote? So they can kep you under control? For the polls? Why??

US needs a serious lesson in democracy.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

109. Again: Republican Party = German Nazi Party!

[jwirr]

110. In Florida three Unions and the Dems

have sued the election boards re election problems. I think it is time that we make these law suits nation wide allowing adults to vote at their own polling places with only address id and with paper trails or receipts. This decision could be made for this election only as there is so many violations of voting rights and so much chance of a contested election simply because of the tampering. We need to have faith in our process of election and at this moment I wouldn't give you two cents for the outcome. This needs to go to the Supreme Court and they need to redeem themselves. We are in a fight here for the continuation of democracy and the SC is supposed to be defenders of democracy and especially the right to vote.

[jasmeel]

111. Can we file a class action lawsuit agains the RNC for fraudulent

election practices?

[SiouxJ]

113. Yes, we have no bananas,

we have a banana republic.

These people don't believe in Democracy. What a joke!

[mslux]

115. Post this to other news sources

I forwarded the voter registration fraud story to Google News suggesting they post the story. Go to the link: httphttp://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe and click to email it to a news source.

[Cha]

117. This is some Serious Shit!

Please get on this Dem Lawyers..and send these smug bastards to Jail!

This is our Country too, and they can't win fairly so they have to resort to doing anything they can to Cheat, Lie, and STEAL.


Oh, and let's don't forget how bush killed thousands and thousands to ensure a second term for himself.

[951]

123. Don't forget to nominate and pass along to the DNC!!!!

http://www.democrats.org/contact/

[Cha]

125. Thanks,

951!:kick:

[Beaverhausen]

126. Is this getting any media attention?

[951]

129. No and its sick

[LiberalPersona]

127. So this is how low they will sink?

They'll go as far as stopping democrats from registering in their attempts to prevent what they know is inevitable.

These people have truly lost any and all sense of what it means to be an American.

[neuvocat]

128. kick

[nebula]

130. Come to think of it,

Its plain crazy to entrust your voter registration to someone on the street. You don't know where the hell its going to end up. It makes as much sense as giving your wallet to a stranger for safekeeping.

As someone mentioned , make sure you are registering at an official location, such as the post office.

I don't understand how any private company can be allowed to handle voter registrations. Shouldn't you be able to mail in your registration or drop it off at the post ofice or something instead of of having to entrust some stranger on the street or at the mall to process it for you??

I wish the Democratic Party and other like minded organizations would start a campaign, complete with mass television and newspaper advertisements, to raise awareness of the potential for voter fraud. A campaign to raise awareness and educate the public to be wary of entrusting their voter registration to someone other than a bona fide official source, such as the US post office.

In fact, such a campaign to raise awareness and educate the public should have been started LONG before this Nov. election. But with only 3 weeks remaining before the election, its too damn late now. As usual, the Democratic leadership are asleep at the switch. This kind of voter fraud should have been anticipated long ago considering how utterly simple it is to pull off and considering what happened in 2000.

It truly is amazing how no one has thought of it until the last minute

[Chimpanzee]

150. Unfortunately

It's too late in most states to register now...

[jaznme]

131. CALL FOR ACTION ON VOTER FRAUD -- NEEDS TO BECOME A MAJOR ISSUE

The increasing evidence of Republican-sponsored voter fraud in Nevada, Colorado, and many other states, by a company funded by the RNC! With voter registration drives in many states, they have systematically torn up Democratic registration forms. Please read today's Daily Kos (www.dailykos.com) for more details.

This deserves -- needs -- to become a major issue, as the RNC is appears to be directly engaged in the subversion of democracy. PLEASE HELP BY WRITING TO YOUR FAVORITE TALK SHOW HOSTS -- I'VE WRITTEN TO KEITH OBERMAN AND CHRIS MATTHEWS, I HOPE ALL WHO READ THIS WILL DO THE SAME.

[LynneSin]

132. Can we boycott Nevada if they don't do something (ie: Las Vegas)

and I'm not kidding - Boycott Vegas, let them know that if they don't reopen voter registration so folks can ensure they are registered then we'll find someplace else to go on vacation other than Nevada and that INLUDES Las Vegas

[jaznme]

133. Need to ensure this is fixed, people can EASILY re-register!

This is criminal and to my mind more serious than Sinclair! We all need to make calls, email, and be sure this gets the attention it deserves! Just like 2000 in Florida, they are bold-faced liars and think nothing of doing it again! We have criminals in power!

[farmbo]

140. Err...not if the legal cutoff date has passed...

I'm assuming these Republican operatives destroyed those registrations AFTER the final date for submission.

[jaznme]

151. They need to make extension in those states then...

... if there is evidence of criminal acts in a specific area, they need to make exceptions and issue extensions so that the Democrats who were disfranchised can vote -- all it takes is a pressure vs. acceptance to make it happen. We can't accept any more voter fraud without a fight.

[Sterling]

158. You can register. You go see a judge on election day

maybe before?

You get a letter from the judge. In NYC they have this set up for people who had their registration messed up. Just make sure they let you vote on the machine and not via absentee. You really have to insist on voting properly this time around if we want to avoid a 2k reduex.

[jaznme]

135. Again, when will it end? When we take action!

In 2000, Bush was in bed with Kathryn, the head voter registrar, in 2004 Bush cheated using a wire in the first debate and, now, we learn the Republicans are organized in voter fraud. The chairman of the republican party responded to Democratic party letter demanding accountability by throwing it back to them as it is problem equally born by Democratics! More denial, they will never admit their error, even when caught red-handed! They came to power and maintain power by cheating. Is this a case of evil overcoming good because "good" won't get down and dirty? We know they don't play fair, they are cheatersm so why expect fair play? To fight them, like a war, we have to go to their levels.

[Beaverhausen]

137. Kick

lets not let the O'Reilly story overshadow this

[catlawyer]

138. Made it into today's NPR's All Things Considered

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4107720

[li3crmp]

146. Any way to get this in Google news, Yahoo, etc.? (n/t)

[dddem]

139. Is it possible?...

That this will be the way Bush "postpones" the election?

[Dover]

145. Alternet: Election Theft In The Making

Election Theft In The Making

In what appears to be the most toxic effort yet in this election to steal the rights and voices of voters by the Republican Party, GOP-funded Voters Outreach of America has reportedly trashed numerous voter registration forms in Nevada and other states. Buzzflash is all over this. According to other blog sources, there are records of this going on by Voter Outreach in Oregon and West Virginia. There are KLAS-TV in Nevada,

"Employees of a private voter registration company allege that hundreds, perhaps thousands of voters who may think they are registered will be rudely surprised on election day. The company claims hundreds of registration forms were thrown in the trash.

"Anyone who has recently registered or re-registered to vote outside a mall or grocery store or even government building may be affected.

"The I-Team has obtained information about an alleged widespread pattern of potential registration fraud aimed at Democrats. The focus of the story is a private registration company called Voters Outreach of America.

"The out-of-state firm has been in Las Vegas for the past few months, registering voters. It employed up to 300 part-time workers and collected hundreds of registrations per day, but former employees of the company say that Voters Outreach of America only wanted Republican registrations.

Cont'd

http://www.alternet.org/election04/2004/10/002569.html

[Chimpanzee]

148. The person that tore up the registrations should be able to be

easily identified. That person should be arrested immediately and asked who's orders were they operating under. Was this an RNC scheme? If that is true strike a plea bargain and put them all in prison!

[goforit]

152. Certainly looks like they should have life imprisonment to me!!!

Down with those slimeball GOP'rs!!!

[JohnnyCougar]

153. kick!

[kwyjibo]

159. Any new articles about this yet?