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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:58 AM
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Anti-Kerry Vietnam Vets Launch New Ads
WASHINGTON - Two groups of Vietnam veterans opposed to Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) once again have joined forces to run television ads against the Democratic presidential candidate.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and POWs for Truth, which launched their joint ad campaign last month, unveiled two ads Thursday.

In one commercial, the faces of dozens of men are shown as an announcer says: "They're the men who served with John Kerry in Vietnam. They're his entire chain of command, most of the officers in Kerry's unit ... And they're the men who spent years in North Vietnamese prison camps. Tortured for refusing to confess what John Kerry accused them of — of being war criminals."

In his Senate testimony after the war, Kerry cited reports from other soldiers of atrocities.
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Chad Clanton, a Kerry spokesman, called the ads "more trash politics from President Bush (news - web sites)'s allies. Not only have their charges been proven false, but they're not talking about things that affect voters' daily lives like health care, jobs and the mess in Iraq (news - web sites)."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=2&u=/ap/20041014/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_ads
(there's also a debate poll at the link)
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:02 AM
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1. John McCain needs to get his ass out there
and refute these ridiculous charges! If he doesn't, his dubious credibility zooms to zero.

Kerry should get on the phone with him as well as Hagel. The DNC should do an ad featuring the Senate veterans immediately and play it after the smear ads in every market.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:17 PM
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9. John McCain's ass has been out there
flapping and farting in the wind for too many years. Retire the opportunisitic two-faced sellout before it's too late.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:05 AM
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2. Big freakin' yawn. No one cares anymore.

Let them waste their money, while Kerry nails 3 debates and takes * to task.

How are the polls lookin'? Pretty damn good.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:36 AM
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6. i agree, i see their ads and i dont even hear them anymore
These ads make Bush look desperate, every time he fucks up at a debate or his poll numbers start slipping out come the swift boats. I just dont give a shit anymore.
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Callisto Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:14 PM
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14. WE will win this time
You can feel it .The tide has turned. Al Franken will be our next FCC chair as well! Howard Dean health and Human Services or Surgeon General.President Kerry will be a magnificent leader!:headbang:
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takumi Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:12 AM
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3. These Guys are Truly Rejects from a "Dawn of the Dead" Movie!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:33 AM
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4. SMEAR BOAT VETERANS-- POW SCUM
They still blame Jane Fonda for losing the War.

These ass holes would DRAFT your chidren and RESTART THE VIET-NAM WAR if you gave the CRETINS a chance.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:35 AM
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5. They're Yesterday's News
They've be repudiated. Nobody but Faux will give these commercials any attention. And, this will only "energize the base". (Whatever the heck that means!) It won't change anyone's mind, no matter how much these guys wish it would.

The Professor
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:52 AM
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7. Make sure to vote this retread crap a "1."
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:19 PM
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10. My vote moved the rating from a 2.80 to a 2.79.
n/t
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:04 PM
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8. Wait A Minute...
The Swift Boat ads came out in August and Kerry's ratings really took a hit.

What I'm pondering is, just a week or so ago wasn't the Bush group referring to the campaign saying something about they had "more" (negative stuff) for Kerry? But if this is it, then it is indication of collaberation with a 527.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:21 PM
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11. At this point, only the most extreme of the NeoCon base is going....
...to pay any attention to their crap.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:30 PM
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12. at this point, these ads will turn off anyone
not already voting for the chimp. The original ads were pre-debate, they were new, controversial, and gave the cable whores something to do.

Kerry passed the commander-in-chief test with flying colors. After winning all 3 debates and looking more Presidential than his "opponent", these ads are going will be seen for what they are.
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Mister K Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:32 PM
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13. I loved the 'Secret Agenda' line
He was on his friggin honeymoon.

Someone should keep these people up to date. I think they should all receive a copy of 'Going Up-River' and see how their ringleader was appointed by Nixon to discredit Kerry.
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