Cheney: Jobs Best Solution for Poverty

[Rose Siding]

BERRIEN TOWNSHIP, Mich. - Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites), asked Friday what he and President Bush (news - web sites) would do to help the working poor, said "the best solution for poverty is a job" and contended their tax policies would help small businesses create more of them.


"What most people want is a good-paying job that will allow them to take care of their families," Cheney said during a campaign stop at a restaurant.


The question came from Cyndi Sanders, who lives in Benton Harbor, an impoverished community along Lake Michigan. Benton Harbor was devastated by two nights of rioting last year after a black motorcyclist died during a high-speed police chase. The rioting and public outcry that followed highlighted its struggling economy.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=3&u=/ap/20041015/ap_on_el_pr/cheney

And rest is the best solution for fatigue, Grasshopper.

[AlCzervik]

1. Wow, thanks Captain obvious!

Geez, is that all he has, just get a job you lazy sack of shit!

[The Backlash Cometh]

35. I think it just finally occurred to Cheney because he's going to be

unemployed come January.

[Beaverhausen]

2. Beaverhausen: "Duh!"

:eyes:

[tlcandie]

3. Tell me ..

what kind of a degree is required to come up with an answer such as this?

[Carla in Ca]

47. The answer to your question is

A degree of arrogance.

[yellowcanine]

4. Well, there IS the lottery. Or you could change your name to Halliburton

and get a no-bid guvmint contract.

[The Magistrate]

5. Whar A Ultra-Maroon!

Perhaps he should then urge policies that will reconfigure the economy towards providing jobs, rather than towatds siphoning off every possible dollar into the pockets of his cronies and political supporters....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[CO Liberal]

6. Then STOP SENDING THE JOBS OVERSEAS!!!!!

Idiot.

[bemildred]

7. No shit, Sherlock! nt

[Catfight]

8. We can do BETTER! n/t

[htuttle]

9. BREAKING NEWS: Food Best Solution for Hunger!

A hungry mob is an angry mob.

[TexasBushwhacker]

14. LOL - You beat me to it

That was just what I was thinking. Just shows, great minds think alike, and so do ours!

[wellst0nev0ter]

10. When They Said He Was Kicked Outta Yale TWICE

I didn't believe them, but. . .

[Ezlivin]

11. Second best solution: eBay

Don't forget that ol' Dick has a fall-back position.

He is brimming with sound economic knowledge, ain't he?

[luaneryder]

12. Cheney having another "senior" moment

[pop goes the weasel]

13. wait a gosh darn minute

Cheney was asked what would help the working poor, and he said "jobs"? Fucking idiot. They are the W-O-R-K-I-N-G poor. They already have jobs.

Just another reason that Cheney needs to be added to the ranks of the unemployed.

[truth2power]

15. Holy Crap!! I'm falling out of my chair laughing. Notify Skinner...

This MUST be included in the next Top 10 Conservative Idiots.

The WORKING poor need jobs??? Go to the back of the class, Crashcart. I think your poorly functioning ticker is causing your brain to be deprived of oxygen. :silly:

[Sentath]

16. Emailed AP about it

Anyone else I should notify?

[NickB79]

22. What would really help is raising the minimum wage

Since these people are already working. But suggest that and Cheney almost has a heart attack screaming about how that would destroy our economy.

[pop goes the weasel]

25. yes--a full plan could be offered

1. raise minimum wage
2. offer subsidized health care (this helps workers and employers)
3. raise the poverty line to something realistic so that more people are protected from paying income taxes
4. end predatory financial practices against workers (high bank fees, pay day loans, etc.)
5. encourage unionization and collective bargaining

[Sallyrat]

36. Lower the freaking price of gasoline for commuters

AND......don't cut the overtime pay............

[iamjoy]

30. Exactly

And he and his GOP friends fight every minimum wage increase. Well, hello, two people working full time at a job paying minimum wage are still at (or below) the poverty level!

They keep talking about education, well, I know this doesn't sound p.c. & I still think everyone should have a chance at education, but some people just aren't as smart as others. And some body has to ask "do you want fries with that" but shouldn't that person be entitled to a decent standard of living?

[pop goes the weasel]

54. education is no answer anyway

There are plenty of people with BAs and MAs working for minimum wages right now. And they can't go back to school if they get behind in their student loan repayments, so forget about retraining for a different field. The whole system is broken.

[JPace]

17. No Kidding!

maybe we can all go overseas where the jobs are going
and work for 35 cents an hour.

[hughee99]

18. "DICK" and I finally agree on something!

This is what the repukes consider "building consensus"... state the obvious and then get your opponent to agree.

[Demeter]

19. As One Ex-Small Business Owner

I credit the failure of my enterprise to the "booming Bush economy", which sent my customers out of business and out of state (or country) and left the nation so weak that we don't even need bird flu to destroy us. Bush flu is doing the job.

Bitter? You're damn right. I was 15 months into it, breaking even, then the stolen election, 9/11 and kiss my life's savings goodbye.

[H3Dakota]

20. Wow. Took only 4 years...

for one of the bozos to become the "master of the obvious"... fat lot of good it does to those folks out of work or that have had to take much lesser paying jobs NOW, though...

[jpgray]

21. Jesus fucking Christ. Many poor working mothers have two or THREE jobs

The problem is they pay so badly! Cheney wants them to take on more work? Talk about out of touch.

[DFWJock]

23. I understand

Halliburton has positions as "drivers" open in Iraq.

[hatrack]

24. Cheney: "Liquids Best Solution For Thirst"

Yeah, and if that's the intellectual firepower required for CEO or VP, then sign me up. Hell, sign everyone on DU up!

[jackieforthedems]

26. Join The Military

is what Cheney and Bush would really like to say to those in need of a job. With all the job loss and down sizing, joining the Armed Forces may start to look pretty attractive to alot of people eventually.

[flobee1kenobi]

28. Why would anyone

rack up tremenous debt to go to school? All the good jobs, the ones little kids want to be when they grow up, have either been outsourced or gutted down to nothing!

[Claire Beth]

27. you practically have to work 2 or 3 jobs....

to keep out of poverty. Leave it to Dick.

[Laughing Mirror]

29. Cheney is just being overly polite

He knows better than anybody that Money is the solution to poverty. He's got his, and yours too.

[Sin]

31. And now for something completely different

Scientist's have found that breathing is the solution to suffocation,eating helps with starvation,sleeping curtails insomnia,Running is faster then walking,Jobs are the solution to poverty, and having Bush and Dick out of office helps humanity beyond any ones imagination.
thank you that is all.

[camero]

32. Flip Flop Cheney

First it was CC, now it's jobs. Funny how he's managed to lose almost 1 million of them in 4 years.

[karlrschneider]

33. Sunrise, best solution for night.

:eyes:

I'd rather hear about a solution to a bunch of money-grubbing Fascists trying to fuck over the whole world.

[robbedvoter]

34. But, but, but ...W said it was edumacation! I am confused now...

[kayell]

37. Cheney is such a philanthropist. All this time he's been fixing poverty

problems in India. And here we are whining as he selflessly tries to help poor starving fur'ners and the deprived people at Halliburton who were having trouble affording that new vacation home in Aruba.

[Disturbed]

38. Rethugs- Enemies of the Working Class.

I believe that the USA is an Oligarchy and even if the Dems manage to win this election it will still be an Oligarchy. One of these days it could be possible that many Americans may realize that they have not been represented properly by most of the people that are in public office.

[truthisfreedom]

39. uhh... good-paying jobs? what about that minimum wage thingie?

remember that, chenster?

[Grateful]

42. Increasing minimum wage isn't the answer

Supply/demand curves from Economics 101 indicate that higher minimum wage results in higher unemployment because higher labor costs cause employers to lay off workers.

If employers in aggregate choose not to lay off workers and instead pass on the higher labor cost to consumers then we have higher inflation.

No such thing as a free lunch.....

[bemildred]

48. There is no connection between min-wage and the unemployment rate.

None. Zippo. This is a myth. Statistics on min-wage and unemployment
show the opposite, if they show anything, but mostly they show no
particular connection at all, other factors are much more important.

[w4rma]

58. If Americans worked for 5 cents an hour, we'd be competitive with Chinese

workers (until the Chinese government just makes them slaves outright). Is that what you are trying to say?

[mbperrin]

59. Wage restriction is the problem....

business is able to exert greater influence than single workers in the system: they have the power, the will to organize and no statutory enforcement to prevent it, while workers face harassment, legal barriers to organization, and mass numbers to coordinate. This results in excess revenues to business directly from the coffers of workers, resulting in lower sales (you didn't think business owners were the main consumers of the world, didja?), spiraling into job layoffs.

However, the recapture of actual earned wages by the legal imposition of a wage floor results in higher incomes for workers and higher sales for business. The minimum wage exists to address a power imbalance and a maldistribution of business revenues.

Higher wages create jobs, not cost them. Example: You have a million dollars to build a beautiful new upscale restaurant somewhere - East LA or Palm Springs? I'd say you'd choose Palm Springs because the revenues for your business are there. Why? Wages are higher.

People having money creates jobs. People not having money destroys jobs. Inflation is a function of the quantity of money being put into the economy by the Fed. Wages not a factor, but instead a reaction to, inflation.

This is Econ 101. I've been teaching it for nine years.

[DuctapeFatwa]

40. Fort Worth Hosts Halliburton's Iraq Job Fair

Over the next two days, Houston-based Halliburton will be hosting a job fair in Fort Worth.

The company is looking for truck drivers to work in Iraq.

There will be two sessions on Friday and Saturday. The first session starts at 8 a.m. and the second at 1 p.m.

The job fairs are open to anyone

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[Jackpine Radical]

41. Jobs are NOT the best cure for poverty.

MONEY is the best cure.

I mean, hell, work all ya want, and if you don't get money for it you're still gonna be poor.

[bemildred]

49. Well said. nt

[mbperrin]

60. Yup. Remember that song, 'Work your fingers to the bone..."?

My grandpa, one of the organizing forces for the IWW in this area, said, Finding work is easy. Getting paid is hard. Getting paid what you're worth is really hard.

[0rganism]

43. Sheer Fucking Genius. And this is the "smart" one?

Meanwhile...

[Sugarbleus]

45. LOL--->"Sheer Fucking Genius"

Well put O. "Meanwhile" is a sad testimony....maybe someone should shoot that photo of jobless man up to Cheney's office.

Ya know, I'm pretty much "over" this administration; so are my neighbors, I think they are organizing a lynching party... hmmmmm

[JackDragna]

44. Not just jobs..

..jobs that don't involve wearing a bloody paper hat or mowing someone's lawn.

[Grateful]

46. Yup......and that's where a good education matters...eom

[antonialee839]

50. This is almost as good as junior's

solution to the flu vaccine shortage "don't get one".

[Strawman]

51. Psst...you're decreasing jobs n/t

[Nordic]

52. gosh, if those stupid poor people would just figure this out!

it would make things SO much easier!

[ogradda]

53. no fucking shit

@!&^%$*&@* asshole:mad:

[teryang]

55. US to lose more than 400,000 jobs this year

US to lose more than 400,000 jobs this year

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&e=...

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States will lose more than 400,000 jobs this year to Mexico, China, India and other Asian nations as multinational corporations restructure operations and shift production overseas, a study showed.

The number of jobs lost will be around double those three years ago, according to the study by Cornell University and the University of Massachusetts for the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

The study came amid heated debate ahead of the November 2 presidential elections on outsourcing of jobs to China, India and other developing economies and its adverse impacts on employment at home.
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[durablend]

56. NEWSFLASH: Brains Best Solution For Stupidity

It's a shame what seems like 40%+ of the population can't grow one...

[scarface2004]

57. being born rich...

is the solution to poverty you fucking asshole!

[mbperrin]

61. Now THAT is well said!

So, now I guess I have to talk to Dad to see what happened.

[takumi]

62. Best Solution for Poverty: DUMP BUSH/CHENEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!