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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:08 AM
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Indian Outsourcing Firms See End to U.S. Rhetoric
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By Rina Chandran
BOMBAY, India (Reuters) - Bumper profits at India's top outsourcing companies announced this week show the industry has suffered little fallout from months of U.S. election campaign debate about the moving of jobs offshore.

The steady flow of jobs and services to low-cost centers such as India has been a hot-button issue in the United States, which goes to the polls on Nov. 2.

All I can say maybe the rhetoric of politicians might be over after the election but Americans are sure ticked off still about it!!!


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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:09 AM
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1. Who cares what we think?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 01:09 AM
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6. If we were a democracy it would matter
question answered
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:30 AM
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2. that's because our representatives won't lift a finger
or are blocked everytime they try to pass legislation to stop it.

The India caucus is a huge lobby organization pushing their foreign
agenda in our domestic legislative branches...

That's why we're so active, India, because this isn't ain't going down
after the election, it will accelerate.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:50 AM
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4. The problem
really isn't this "Indian Caucus" you speak of. It's corporations that have given millions to both parties.

As long as the politicians recieve cash, they'll allow the corporations to do what they want.

And outsourcing to India isn't anything compared to that which has gone to Mexico and China.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:53 AM
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5. So True - Just One More Example Of Corporations Run Amok!
eom
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 08:47 AM
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10. As far as straight numbers of jobs, you are correct -- many more
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 08:56 AM by Nay
jobs are going to Mexico and China. But the danger in the jobs that are going to India is that they are the jobs that pay well here in the States. Jobs that require good educations and good brains to do.

It was bad enough when, in the 70's and 80's, regular decent-paying union-type jobs got shipped offshore, and the story that was spun was that everyone needed to "smarten up" and go to college if they wanted a job with a future. (I won't even get into the side discussion of what to do with people who are not college material--people who simply don't have the mental gifts to learn, say, chemistry, or computer programming, etc., and need jobs like manufacturing, truck driving, etc.)

So, the rug was pulled out from under a bunch of people back then, and the fiction was put out that they just had done themselves in by not educating themselves.

Now that (some of) us educated folks have decent-paying jobs because we took this to heart and sacrificed time and money to go to college, the effort is underway to ship our jobs to India because we cost too much to hire! And all the while, our personal costs to live in this country have grown tremendously! They sure don't mind that we make $60,000 per year when they try to sell us a $200,000 median-priced house, do they???

It's a replay of the old story of "When they came for the communists, I didn't say anything because I wasn't a communist. When they came for the (fill in blank), etc." We don't realize, until it is too late, that THEY are coming for ALL of us. Their propaganda works like a dream in this country, because we have been conditioned for 70 years to respond to advertising of all kinds. Look at how many Republicans there are! How many people who don't want taxes on the rich because they themselves plan on being rich one day, never realizing that they are playing a shell game with crooks and are doomed to lose!

Folks, this last hundred years has been a long-term shakedown of the working people in this country by the monied elite. We are seen as cash cows to be fleeced of every dime we have, and then we will be left to rot in our cardboard shacks once we can no longer buy their junk on the salaries we make.

And don't think we will have the final revenge because "once we can't buy anything, all those companies will go out of business! So there!" If you have thought of it, so have they. They plan on developing other areas of the world (China, India, etc.) to take over consumption from us, since the American public has gotten so lazy and uppity and ungrateful. Will the companies take a hit, ever? Oh, maybe, but not so the moneyed elite will notice. The stockholders and employees will get it in the neck first, then the taxpayers (see: airlines bailouts and givebacks for details) and then, if things get too bad, bankruptcy will deliver the elite from the bills coming due and saddle everyone else with any resulting costs. It's a sweet deal if you can get it. And they got it and continue to get it. Only wholesale restructuring of the way corporations are granted charters and are taxed has a prayer of changing any of this. Frankly, it may even be too late for that, since most of them are rich enough to reestablish themselves overseas.

Welcome to the future, folks. Look familiar? That's because it's like the world immemorial -- the human race can't seem to get out of the king/serfdom, master/slave, rich/poor groove for more than a century at a time. It's a sad thing.





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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:50 AM
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3. This American Has Canceled
business with Earthlink, McAfee because of it.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 02:15 AM
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9. Intuit has offshored their support too
I had to call them recently and I'll tell ya, it was a stinking awful experience. I never did get the problem resolved, I simply gave up after 2 hours - the guy simply could not combine english and product knowledge.

GregD
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 01:17 AM
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7. we need to start talking again about "fair" versus "free" trade
and a whole host of issues relating to what we allow corporations to do. If we can give them tax breaks galore, we can reign them in too. I think NAFTA, etc., were some of the worst things we did in the 90s. I think we have to get manufacturing back here in many industries and we should just pay the damn price by not allowing imports. We are screwing ourselves by what we are doing now...there won't be many people working in this country if present trends keep up. Get the programming and other jobs back too.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 01:59 AM
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8. Bumper profits for them.
Destitution for us. How nice. This could make me a bigot. But it isn't their fault .
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