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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:37 AM
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Che Guevara's daughter voices Cuban fears that Bush has country in his sig
Che Guevara's daughter voices Cuban fears that Bush has country in his sights
By Terri Judd
16 October 2004


Aleida Guevara, the daughter of the legendary revolutionary Che Guevara, was in London yesterday to speak about the growing threat of US military aggression against Cuba.

Bumper stickers across Florida proclaim "Iraq today, Cuba tomorrow". In the lead-up to the elections President George Bush cannot afford to ignore the vocal anti-Castro American Cuban vote in Florida. Jeb Bush, his brother and state Governor, has said: "After its success in Iraq, Washington should finish with the regime of Castro.''

This, Dr Guevara insisted at the third European Social Forum held in London's Alexandra Palace yesterday, was more than rhetoric. In May the Bush administration issued a dossier by the Commission For Assistance to a Free Cuba, dedicated $59m (£33m) to regime change and sanctioned the use of planes broadcasting propaganda just outside Cuban airspace.

Cuban Americans have now been restricted to returning to their home once every three years. The dossier, the Cuban Solidarity Campaign said yesterday, does not speak of peaceful regime change but of military action. The Cubans have responded by placing their armed forces on high alert. Dr Guevara said: "If it was not such a serious threat, I would find it funny. The things he is saying are so silly and unbelievable. In that dossier it says that when they take power in Cuba they are going to vaccinate every child under five when in reality we are the ones who could give the US vaccinations. If it was not for the fact that the threat is so real and the evidence is there in Iraq, we would find it funny."
(snip/...)

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=572661
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:55 AM
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1. October Surprise? Please tell me that Chimpy wouldn't be that stupid.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:07 AM
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2. That stupid? You need to ask?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:12 AM
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3. OMG, I had not heard Jeb's comment about taking out Cuba next.

Are the "Iraq Today, Cuba Tomorrow" bumper stickers in favor of that action? That's sort of implied but I'd never heard of the bumper stickers.

WE need regime change in January.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 06:27 AM
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4. The bumper stickers started appearing right after the invasion of Iraq,
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 06:27 AM by JudiLyn
from what I've heard. So sad, isn't it?

Miami Herald writer, Max Castro wrote in May, 2003:
Invasion of Cuba is dangerous delusion

That the Iraq war has revived a certain strand of Cuban exile thinking that seemed long buried was brought home in a conversation I had with a critic a week ago. He had already finished telling me why my columns are no good and why the idea that dialogue is the best approach when it comes to Cuba is dead wrong. I kept pressing him for his alternative, but he ignored me.
Now my Cuban-American interlocutor plunged headlong into the ''litany of betrayal,'' a key chapter in the traditional exile story of how we came to be here still, 44 ½ years later.

''They betrayed us at the Bay of Pigs!'' he exclaimed. ''They betrayed us with the Kennedy-Khruschev pact!'' (the agreement that ended the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis), he said, emotion building. ''They betrayed us with Elian!'' he shouted in bitter conclusion.

''They,'' the perpetrators of this serial betrayal, the villains of the story, are simply ''los americanos'' or, in the more partisan version, the Democrats.
(snip)

The return of the invasion illusion also signals a dearth of creative, constructive ideas and a vacuum of leadership. In the last decade, polls have shown a trend toward moderation among Cuban Americans. There has been a great deal of self-congratulation about this and too little focus on what yet needs to be achieved. The fact is, the moderating trend has not meant the end of hope for a violent solution. A poll conducted by Florida International University in 2000 showed 52 percent of Miami Cubans favor dialogue; the same survey found 60 percent would support U.S. military action against Cuba!
(snip/...)
http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y03/may03/20e6.htm

(Article formerly available through the Miami Herald, but gone a-w-a-y now, to the depths of the archives.)
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/columnists/max_castro/5898765.htm

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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 09:01 AM
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5. hhmmmmm . . . the liberal and college-educated Cuban
community here in the Boston area were looking forward to an improved diplomatic relationship b/t USA and Cuba. Then came GWBush!

GWBush has further capped money shipped to Cuba from family members here in the States. GWBush has further curtailed travel to Cuba by USA Cuban-Americans w/ family in Cuba.

What an a**. And Jeb and Sonny-boy Dumbya pander to these Miami-Cubans? How utterly sad. The negative politics of this rotten core rightwingnuts is systemic and pervasive.

Cheney using his own daughter to kiss-a** w/ the religious nuts. Jeb and Company using the Miami-Cuban population, YET AGAIN. And on and on. No character. No honor. No nothing. Empty suits, all.


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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 01:26 PM
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6. The US would turn Cuba into another Haiti
Just as we are turning Iraq into another Haiti.

Viva US capitalism :eyes:

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 01:49 PM
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7. No way! If you think there's resistance in Iraq, Cuba would be a nightmare
There are literally NO Cubans in Cuba who wouldn't resist US invasion.
Sovereignty is Cuba's. It was hard won, and Cubans will fight to the death to maintain it for their progeny.


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 05:20 PM
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8. I heard that sentiment expressed, as well, Mika.
They've had over 40 years of raids and bombings and kidnappings, and murders at the hands of U.S.-based terrorists to inform them there are people who aim to control them whenever the chance arises.

Yet they still have managed to progress from the hole they were in with Batista.


Barracoa, Cuba
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:02 AM
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9. All of Latin America would turn on us
and Canada would invade Montana.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:18 AM
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10. There would be a coalition of one.
The entire world (except Israel and the Marshall Islands) vote annually in the UN to condemn the US's treatment of Cuba. The rest of the world has good relations with the government and people of Cuba, if not great respect.

There wouldn't be a single country, NOT ONE, that would support a US invasion of Cuba. None. It would signal the death knell of US "diplomacy", and our country would become the pariah of the planet (well.. even more so than now).



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    Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 05:10 PM
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    11. Considering the 'raging success'
    that Iraq has been chimp better rethink taking Cuba. x(
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    qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 05:14 PM
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    12. I would fly to Cuba
    and fight with the Resistance
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    Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 05:21 PM
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    13. The 14th annual vote in the General Assembly at the UN is due in November
    to condemn the U.S. embargo on Cuba. Each year there has been a MASSIVE vote against it, leaving the U.S. supported only by Israel, and on some occassions, the Marshall Islands, or some very small, easily coerced country.

    Israel, the only country which supports the U.S. position does business with Cuba, itself. Go figure!
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    Rex_Goodheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 05:29 PM
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    14. If she truly believes that, then she's dumb...
    Not because she is wrong about Bush's intentions, but because she just improved her chances at successfully prophesy by improving the chances of Bush's election.

    Florida Cubans would like nothing more than to invade Cuba. They still cling to the hope that they will reclaim their properties taken by Castro in the revolution.

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