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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 10:18 PM
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Filmmaker tells 'slacker friends' to get out, vote
About 20 Republicans gathered outside the Thomas & Mack Center for Moore's 9 p.m. appearance. They held signs and vented their frustrations about the $30,500 of student fees used to pay for Moore's performance. They were countered by the more than 4,000 students and fans who showed up to support him.

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http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Oct-16-Sat-2004/news/25011724.html

I think it is weird that only 20 protestors showed up in Las Vegas and about 250 showed up to protest in Reno (I attended the Moore event in Reno so I saw 'em.)

What's even weirder still is Reno had almost 10,000 in attendance and Las Vegas had only 4,000 and Las Vegas is way, way bigger!

Thank you, Michael Moore! Your efforts are appreciated.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:43 PM
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1. We saw him in MO
there were about 2000 and maybe a dozen protesters.
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Still_Notafraid Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:45 AM
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3. A
Republican protester is like a Hippy with a machine gun,it is passable but it is very rare.

you see in order to be a protester it takes being informed,and we all know that there would not be very many Republicans if in fact they were informed.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:06 PM
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4. Republican Protester
They steal yard signs in the middle of the night with full camouflage paint on.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 06:48 PM
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15. LOL....I love your characterization....can I use it???
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 07:34 PM
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16. Feel Free...
I've gone through more signs than MaccyDo has BigMacs.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:51 AM
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2. I was at the Vegas appearance.
I didn't know about it until Friday afternoon. I overheard people at the next table over from us at a restaurant talking about it, and when I got the scoop I immediately went and got tickets for it after dinner.

There may have only been about 4,000, but given that half the seats were closed off and the rotunda was pretty much cut in half, it was still impressive. There were maybe 10% of the seats still open from what I could see, 15% tops.
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StupidFOX Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:10 PM
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5. Republicans can't get out vote, Democrats can...
Seriously, how many voters do you think Republicans will get to the booths by shouting, "HOLY CHRIST, MAN, WE'VE GOT TO SAVE THE UNBORN BABIES AND STOP KERRY FROM GIVING HEALTHCARE TO EVERYBODY! THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS JUSTIFIED! SADDAM WASN'T A NICE GUY!"

Democrats, however, appeal to people disillusioned with the current path of the government and manage to persuade them that they CAN be heard.

In the end it comes down to this: what appeals more, "VOTE FOR BUSH OR GO TO HELL", or "You know you CAN make a difference, my Democratic friend."
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:28 PM
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6. Michael Moore will be in my town . . .
. . . on October 20th at noon. There is going to be a HUGE RW protest turnout. What an great opportunity to have an Army recruiter with applications in hand to sign them up for duty!:evilgrin:

TYY
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 01:45 PM
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7. "HUGE RW protest turnout"
Twelve Freepers and a rabid dog?

:-)
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:17 PM
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8. It's a little bit bigger than that . . .
In the weeks following the announcement that Moore will come to the campus Oct. 20, outrage roiled across the Beehive State like a cloud of mad hornets.

A state legislator threatened to cut UVSC's funding.

A former Springville mayor decided to donate his $1.4 million art collection to Brigham Young University instead of to UVSC.

A hostile woman in an e-mail called for UVSC to be shut down.

A group of anti-Moore students got up a petition with thousands of signatures to cancel Moore's visit and oust student body officers, President Jim Bassi and Vice President Joe Vogel.

A furious grandfather said he'll skip his grandson's UVSC graduation in protest.

A Salt Lake City resident threatened to disrupt the event with blockades of motor vehicles.

An Orem investor offered a $25,000 cashiers check to UVSC if it would only rescind the invitation to Moore. . .

<snip>

Sederburg notes that the vigorous community response may be one measure of how much people care about UVSC. But with this much caring, who needs enemies?

A telephone message to the college administrative office ended with the caller shouting obscenities into the phone. E-mails are laced with the "f" word, calls for resignations and shutting down the school. One person wrote: "I will NEVER give one penny of my money to UVSC ever again."

Among the most troubling communications, however, was a phone call from a state legislator threatening the college's funding. For a legislator to threaten an institution that has not broken any law is inappropriate, said Cameron Martin, assistant to the president."Any institution of higher learning is about the free exchange of ideas," he said. He couldn't name the legislator.

"The students aren't the ones that are opposed to Michael Moore coming," Bassi said. "It's the community."

Based on the e-mails he's been answering, Bassi says most of the opposition to Moore is based on the film "Fahrenheit 9/11." But most critics haven't seen the film and base their criticism on what they have seen on TV or heard from conservative commentators Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly or Hannity, Bassi said.

Bill McGregor of Salt Lake City isn't interested in any free exchange of Moore's ideas at UVSC "because he'll poison young minds." . . .


http://www.harktheherald.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=36941&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

TYY
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:48 PM
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10. Bill McGregor is a frightening dude
This is what we are up against.... This is the enemy.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:32 PM
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11. He's a freak . . .
. . . so's Kay Anderson. Check out this dialog. The last quote cracks me up in light of the first four:

Orem resident Kay Anderson, whose daughter is a UVSC sophomore, said he doesn't know exactly how having Moore speak in Utah County will change the community. But it "moves us in a direction that we don't want to go, and that is why our community is outraged."

He said once Moore speaks, the damage can't be undone. "We won't be able to say, 'Gee, we made a mistake, we took our quiet, conservative little community and allowed it to become something we don't want it to be, and now we can't change it,'" Anderson said.

"Holding this event runs the risk of changing what we define that the limits are, what we have been willing to do in the past," he said. "We like our conservative values. I love Orem. I like it the way it is, and we want to keep it that way."

"Freedom of speech works because most of us have the sense to keep our mouths shut to keep from offending anyone," Anderson said.


Anderson, a real estate investor, offered a $25,000 cashier's check to UVSC to buy back the Moore tickets if the college would rescind the invitation.

The school declined.


TYY:eyes:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 03:54 PM
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12. "Freedom of speech works
because most of us have the sense to keep our mouths shut to keep from offending anyone,"

Do we have a state calle The Twilight Zone?
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 02:32 PM
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9. All they need is 1 porta-potty and a pooper scoop.
n/t
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 04:06 PM
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13. I will see MM Oct 19th in Seattle
Bringing the wife and kids.... Should be a good event. I doubt any RWingers will show up in heart of Jim McDermott's district!
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 04:55 PM
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14. Good for the school's administration!
:yourock:

Takes a lot of courage to stand up to all that pressure. Nice to know there are still some people in the U.S. who cherish our freedoms ... even in Utah (forgive the hyperbole--no offense intended to progressives in Utah)!

-Laelth
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