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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:22 PM
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Ron Silver Says His GOP Activism Has Cost Him In Hollywood
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Silver shows particular venom for Michael Moore, whose "Fahrenheit 9/11" documentary broke box office records and just came out on DVD. In "FahrenHYPE 9/11," Silver teams with former Clinton adviser Dick Morris and others to deconstruct Moore's movie. They score strong points when some of the subjects - an Oregon state trooper, a maimed soldier, the aunt of a young man killed in Iraq - say Moore had no business involving them in his political screed.

Silver's film has done gangbuster business for its distributor, the Internet retailer Overstock.com, selling more than 200,000 copies since its release Oct. 5.

"Michael Moore and that faction of the party was one of the factors that did not let me support the Democratic nominee this year," Silver said. "He is a charlatan in a clown suit. I compare him to Leni Riefenstahl and Goebbels," referring to Adolf Hitler's infamous propagandists.

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Link: http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041017/APP/410170725&cachetime=3&template=dateline

Hey Ron, Go Cheney Yourself!!!

:mad::nuke::grr:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:23 PM
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1. Good.
I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he is a no-talent assclown.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:24 PM
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4. Exactly! n/t
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:15 PM
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85. Who is Ron Silver??
This is his equivalent of tit-flashing for publicity I guess.

I just wonder if Scaife bought all those copies of this movie.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:57 AM
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107. Look at his filmography
Other than appearing in Silkwood more than twenty years ago, his only other respectable acting credit is his appearance in "The West Wing." Leave it to a liberal Democrat to make jobs!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0798779/
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:41 AM
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111. HEY RON- I WANT TO TALK ABOUT GOEBBELS!
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 06:58 AM by anarchy1999

Fascism Compared to Communism

Analyze the similarities and the differences between single party rule
in Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia between 1933 and 1945. Answers
should consider: methods of dealing with opposition, control of media
and education, control of the economy, and war time planning.

---

Why is it that Germany's fascism lasted a relatively short
time compared to Russia's communism? The regimes established under
Hitler and Stalin were incredibly similar with respect to the rise and
control of the state. Both systems were based on entirely different
ideology and goals. Hitler's Mein Kampf established the superiority of
the German race and the need to expand as wanted by God. Hitler wanted
the world. The government in Russia established by Lenin was based on
a book called Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, a call to the
proletariate to unite and rebel against their selfish employers. It is
my belief that Lenin had entirely good reasons for doing as he did,
and felt he was helping the world as apposed to Adolf Hitler.
Immediately after Lenin's death, a man very much the same in nature as
Hitler, Stalin, came to control the Bolsheviks and throw Russia in a
civil war in a quest for power. You now have two men of equal
aspirations soon to be in control of two very similar governments.
In any rise of power, there needs to be a period of careful
planning requiring much thought. These two men had very little history
with which to work with which to model their revolutions. Times had
been changing rapidly, technological improvements in the fields of
manufacturing, transportation, and communication made this period of
time very different from any other. Hitler spent his time imprison
writing his book, Mein Kampf, filling it full of warped ideas of
conquest and superiority of one race over another. I think it is
strange that such works would go unnoticed with nobody left to watch a
man with such dangerous ideas. Lenin planned his revolution while in
exile in Switzerland. Then he made a deal with the German government
whereby he was hid on a train and passed through enemy Germany to
Russia. The conclusions with respect to methods of acquiring power and
controlling it when they did get it were very much the same.
Both rulers had full run of their respective governments.
Stalin was already dictator of Russia with his power and loyalty of
the people guaranteed by the secret police, the Cheka. This entity
provided Stalin with an easy means of destroying the opposition and
weeding out the undesirable to be sent to prison camps in Siberia, a
virtual death sentence. For Hitler to ascend to that level of power he
rammed the Enabling Act through the German Congress which gave him the
power to enact laws. Under Article 1 of his new power, Hitler decreed
the only existing party shall be the NSDAP. With Article 2 he declared
all association of, collaboration with, and support of other parties
would result in imprisonment in camps similar to Russia's labor camps.
With Hitler's Gestapo, secret police, he enforced those rules and used
existing policies to get rid of other unfit Germans. Political
prisoners, homosexuals, Jews and other people sent to the
concentration camps were given different colored symbols for easy
identification. At this point, no one dared speak against their
country even in the privacy of one's home lest their children let
something slip at school.

http://www.cyberessays.com/History/40.htm

From the March 2003 Idaho Observer:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Nazification of America

The Idaho Observer has intentionally maintained an editorial policy that avoided comparisons of the U.S. government to Hitler and Nazi Germany. Such comparisons evoke vivid images of an ugly period in recent history and people have a tendency to deny, rather than learn from them. By March, 2003, the parallels are undeniable. If people don't like the images of entire cities burning and millions of naked emaciated people being buried in mass graves, then they should do something to prevent the U.S. government from repeating the horrors that have been attributed to Hitler's Nazis.

by Hari Heath

British Prime Minister Tony Blair recently said, “opponents of military action against Iraq are as misguided as the appeasers who refused to stand up to Adolph Hitler in the 1930s.”

Isn't this classic doublespeak from the Bush regime's partner in war? As Hitler's propagandist Joseph Goebbles stated, “a lie told often enough eventually becomes the truth.”

Is the truth much closer to this statement: “Proponents of military action against Iraq are as misguided as the appeasers who refused to stand up to Adolph Hitler in the 1930s.”

Can those of you who remember the history of 1930s Germany see the parallels to our current times? Are we witnessing the rapid Nazification of America?

The German leadership in the later 1930s thought it was quite appropriate to invade other countries to get what Germany wanted. The Bush regime's plan to invade Iraq by force, impose a regime change and make Iraq's oil safe for western corporations seems to be a rather Hitlerian mindset.

How can otherwise sane people be convinced that invading another country is a good idea? The German people were whipped into a frenzy of support for Hitler and the Nazis by systematic programming. A media blitz from the Nazi propaganda machine fomented a blind pro-Aryan patriotic pride.

What is the difference


http://proliberty.com/observer/20030314.htm
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:24 PM
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2. The fact that there are few parts for aging bad actors has nothing to do
with his professional slump I suppose.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:08 PM
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82. Or that there aren't many parts that would fit him.
Really about the only parts for him would be slimey scum parts.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:24 PM
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3. sounds like he needs to get over himself
whats his problem, sheesh :shrug:

peace
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WMliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:25 PM
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5. or maybe it's his bad filmmaking
and mediocre acting. :shrug:
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:28 PM
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11. he says he hasn't worked in ten months,
what about the people in this country who have not worked because of shrubs outsourcing,union busting,etc.
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:26 PM
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6. Silver is a damn fool
for this: "Michael Moore and that faction of the party was one of the factors that did not let me support the Democratic nominee this year"

IDIOT! Vote based on a candidate's beliefs and vision, not the actions of some of his/her supporters. People who vote based on irrelevant factors like this are morons.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:09 PM
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44. as if he was going anywhere near the truth at any time
he's full of shit and in league with the devil.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:27 PM
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7. Many people have been paying the price for their political
actions and opinions. Up 'till now, it's been mostly progressives. Dixie Chicks, Bill Maher, Whoopie Goldberg,...

'Bout f*F#@ing damned time conservatives are paying, too.

Pardon my, er, French.

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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:23 PM
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71. But That's Wrong
It was wrong when all those actors got blacklisted in the 1950s. If it happens now, it is wrong whether they are being "blacklisted" for speaking out against Dubya or for being too Conservative.

That said, his bringing up Michael Moore is grossly unfair. I agree sometimes Moore is over the top, but John Kerry and Moore have been very cautious to keep their distance from each other. I think the Kerry campaign knows that to openly embrace Moore would be disasterous given that Moore offends a good many moderates. I think Kerry fails to criticise Moore because he is not so stupid as to turn away help. I think Moore and Kerry both realize if Kerry is elected, Moore will "turn" on Kerry. Moore is not so much pro-Kerry as anti-Bush and smart enough to realize what is at stake.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:27 AM
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94. There Is A Difference
In the 1950's writers, directors, actors, all members of the Hollywood community were being blacklisted, the difference was they were being blacklisted at the insistance of the US Government, or at least one US Senator and his cronies.

The blacklisting was done out of fear, fear that if a studio did not fire someone who's name was listed as being a communist, that studio would be dragged through the mud by Senator McCarthy.

A lot of those blacklisted were very talented people, some were fortunate enough to still write, but under assumed names.

The difference now is that Hollywood is doing this on it's own, not because of fear, but because they can, and Ron Silver just happens to be the current target of opportunity.

As for Mr. Moore, he has not made his views a secret, he has already said that if Kerry wins then the spotlight will be on him as well.
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:28 PM
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funny...
silver's stock has been in decline for years in the entertainment business. maybe this is a time warp thing- his future clash with Moore has reverberated through time and affected the last ten years of his career...

nah.

how come, aside from Charlton Heston, no-one who's ever won an academy award supports Bush?

well, awards don't mean all that much, anyway.

especially when they are made of Silver.

whalerider55
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:28 PM
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8. People comparing anyone on the left to Goebbels and Riefenstahl
Those people used propaganda to keep someone evil in power. At this point nobody on the left or for that matter in the democratic party has any kind of substantial power, especially when you consider the stranglehold the right has on all bodies of our government.

Good, I hope Ron Silver never works in Hollywood again. Hey Ron: No, I wouldn't like fries with that.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:18 PM
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86. That is such a Rovian comparison, yeah, they're holocaust deniers.
Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 11:18 PM by jdjkkse
They really are trying to piss off as many Jewish people as possible, as if "The gore-fetish of the Jesus freaks" wasn't enough.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:28 PM
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9. Waaaaaahhhhhh! nt
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:28 PM
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10. Has Overstock really sold 200,000 copies since it plans to send
a bunch of freebies to Iraq?
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:38 PM
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25. Bulk sales for distribution in churches. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:28 PM
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12. You just keep telling yourself that, Ron..
Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 08:29 PM by SoCalDem
Maybe Bo Derek will let you cry on her....umm.. shoulder..
It always amazes me when mediocre people cry "foul" when their "careers" fail..

Ron Silver was just a character actor.. the leading man's short friend..or the cute leading lady's "guy friend"..

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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:04 PM
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41. Well, Er.....
Tha Tha that's all Folks......

Well put Socal :toast:
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:17 PM
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48. a sterling career
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0798779/

omg, he was "Gary" on Rhoda! What have we lost?
Hey Ron, you reading this? Nothing better to do I bet.
drop dead.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:38 PM
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73. Fascinating
Thanks for the link to Ron's illustrious career. He was on Wiseguy, and I got to find out what that Ken Wahl is up to these days. When I was a kid, I was in love with him, and thought that we would make passionate whoopy to "Angel of the Morning," sung by Juice Newton. Of course I just think he's greasy and gross, now -- and apparently he only dates Playboy centerfolds. Did you know he's married to one of the Barbi twins?

Hm...time...to...shut...off...inner...monologue :)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:33 PM
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55. He has a connection to state government..
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:21 PM
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87. And Shannen Doherty is a psycho bitch.
Whom no one wants to work with. I'm sure she blames it on her fascism too though.

I'm upset to find out James Woods is a puke. I thought only a liberal could do Byron Dela Becwith as well as he did, but now I have a whole new take on why he was so believable in that role.
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:32 AM
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112. And yet...
...James Woods and Kelsey Grammar still find work because...

they're excellent actors.

Does Ron Silver still have the gawd awful beard? If he does, THAT could be the reason he hasn't worked in ten months.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:29 PM
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13. silver can go fuck himself
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:30 PM
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14. I liked his stint on West Wing
I thought it was good. Other than that, he can kiss my ass.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:31 PM
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15. Actions have consequences Ron
Perhaps next time he will keep his mouth shut.

Somehow I get the feeling that if I was an employee for a big defense contractor and I became a vocal supporter of the Democratic Party there would also be professional consequences for me too.

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:31 PM
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16. Dennis Miller says his acting career has also suffered. n/t
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:55 PM
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38. That's acting? Cheeezzzz.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:09 PM
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45. Dennis Miller was on his way out before he joined Bush's side
He hasn't had a new joke for years. People had grown very tired of him. They just have to blame somebody for their downfall.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:40 PM
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58. Maybe Miller and Silver can do a talk show on FOX . n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:10 PM
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83. All he had were bit parts...
his main forte was being a bad comedian. The problem with his comedy acts was that he was aiming above his audience.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:44 AM
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113. Dennis Miller's career has suffered because HE'S NOT FUNNY
And when his pathetic "jokes" are aimed at insulting anyone to the left of Attila the Hun, he's not gonna have a lot of fans.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:32 PM
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17. Maybe he turned wingnut
so he could whiiiiiiiiiiine with the best of them. One of the fundamental(ist) roots of the wingnuts is being able to play the victim. Boo-Hoo.

I used to like that guy. yuck.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:34 PM
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21. I think he is stupid.
He sounds stupid, anyway. I can't stand to hear him talk.
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AlbertoMo83 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:33 PM
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18. AWWWW POOR RON SILVER
:no pity: :no pity: :no pity: :no pity: :no pity: :no pity:

Like a give a shit about what some no name actor thinks!!! LOL
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:33 PM
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19. Screw ron silver and his fucking lies!
Sniveling little bastardo!

I don't believe for one second that Michael turned him off Democrats!

:wtf: does bush's lyin' do for ya, buddy..make ya go whine about F9/11?


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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:33 PM
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20. Hold on a second - Don't you have to HAVE a career to have it damaged?
Mostly TV or lousy stuff, straight to video. A real charmer.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0798779/

Jack (2003) (TV) .... Paul
"Skin" (2003) TV Series .... Larry Goldman
Wisher, The (2002) .... Campbell
... aka Spliced (2002) (Canada: English title: DVD title) (USA: video title)
Master Spy: The Robert Hanssen Story (2002) (TV) .... Mike Fine
"West Wing, The" (1999) TV Series .... Bruno Gianelli (2001-2002)
Ali (2001) .... Angelo Dundee
Festival in Cannes (2001) .... Rick Yorkin
When Billie Beat Bobby (2001) (TV) .... Bobby Riggs
... aka Billie contre Bobby: La bataille des sexes (2001) (TV) (Canada: French title)
Exposure (2000/II) (V) .... Gary Whitford
... aka Exposure - Gefährliche Enthüllung (2003) (V) (Germany)
... aka Naked Terror (2000) (V)
... aka Tod steht Modell, Der (2003) (V) (Germany: TV title)
American Tragedy (2000) (TV) .... Robert Shapiro
Cutaway (2000) .... Lieutenant Brian Margate
Ratz (2000) (TV) .... Herb Soric
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:06 PM
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42. Heh, that's just what I was thinking . . . I've heard more from Ron
Silver in the last 3 months than in the last thirty years.

Pathetic loser.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:51 PM
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78. You know - you're right
I knew his face, having seen him play bad guys in a couple of movies. But I never attached a name to the face until he started infesting the political talk shows with his Bush adoration.
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StupidFOX Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:34 PM
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22. When you make a movie solely based on how someone else's movie sucks...
You're not going to get a warm welcome in Hollywood.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:34 PM
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23. Combined with the fact that he's a mediocre actor at best
I'm sure his "activism" has cost him.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:37 PM
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24. Ron Silver can F&#% himself!!! The reason he can't get work....
is because he has NO TALENT!!!

Reba McEntire and Patricia Heaton as well as child molester Kelsey Grammer are VERY PROMINANT in both Hollywood and the Republican Party!!! This prooves that Silver is full of crap!!!

:argh:
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:38 PM
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26. Was he
the little guy on Barney Miller. If not, I can't place him.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:39 PM
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27. Ever since Rhoda
I hadnt heard of him, he's one of those that looks like another 5 or 6 samish clones.

Like Al Pacino Lite.

The last role I saw him in was the Republican convention, before that Rhoda, circa 1974.

Get bent Ron,

oh and you too Dennis Miller, you used to be funny. What the **** happened.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:41 PM
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28. Good
On occassion, people do get what they deserve....

"Republicanism is a character flaw."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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theblasmo Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:45 PM
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32. Heat Vision and Jack
Ron's assholed-ness makes it difficult to watch him in this unaired pilot -- possibly his best role, playing himself.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:42 PM
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29. Hey Ron, Cheney says you need to get educated to get a job
Simple as that. :evilgrin:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:01 PM
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39. No talentless hack left behind!
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biscodawg Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:49 PM
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77. Gotta love compassionate conservatism!! n/t
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:43 PM
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30. Who The HELL Is Ron Silver?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:46 PM
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34. Yea, never heard of 'im... must be a second rate nobody
Wow, the GOP are relying on second rate nobodys 'cuz all the real
successful actors/actresses are busy working for the democrats. ;-)
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:44 PM
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31. Gangbuster Business?
"Silver's film has done gangbuster business for its distributor, the Internet retailer Overstock.com, selling more than 200,000 copies since its release Oct. 5."


Uhhhh, Gangbuster Business? In addition to exceeding $100 million in original release revenues in theatres and not including overseas distribution or future broadcast and cable TV rights .....

....Mr. Moore's DVD sold Three MILLION Copies the first day of its release.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:03 PM
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40. Make That... Over $200,000,000 Worldwide !!!
Link: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fahrenheit911.htm

Plus... FAHRENHEIT 9/11 SHATTERS HOME VIDEO RECORD
- Moore's Film Bows as #1 Documentary Debut of All-Time-

Link: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/pr/?id=1518&p=.htm

:hi::evilgrin::hi:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:45 PM
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33. No, Ronnie babie, it's your ANTI-AMERICANISM that has cost you.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:48 PM
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35. Ron Silver's career was nosediving. Let him make PNAC instructionals.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:01 PM
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64. LOL!
He is one angry dude!
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:53 PM
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36. Hi-Ho Silver!
Now worries, Ron Silver! I am sure there are always rightwing suits out there that are willing to hire you to make propaganda films for them.
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 08:54 PM
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37. I have no use for Ron Silver....
He sucks as an actor.

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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:07 PM
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43. It's not his opinions, its his conversion
He's gone from a liberal to a megahawk virtually overnight and reasonable people just don't trust (or want to interact) with people they perceive as zealots who have had instant conversions. And he's been an in your face obnoxious convert to top things off.

I'm sure Ed Koch is getting the same treatment.

I doubt Matt LeBlanc is paying the price because he's not trying to suck up media time telling us why he likes Bush.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:11 PM
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46. Silver a B-rated (Bomb) actor
Every single movie he was the star in has bombed.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:16 PM
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47. Here's the link if you want to write a review:
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:18 PM
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49. Silver used to be president of Actors Equity...Obviously, ....
he's abandoned his AFL-CIO union roots. Actually, he's a pretty decent actor, but an idiot when it comes to choosing parties.

Is he really that naive to not understand that politics are risky towards one's career? Ask Jane Fonda.

If Hollywood really spoke what they thought they'd be making films about Bush...

Tell Silver to watch Bulworth...He'll soon be a regular on Crossfire.
You choose your company, and he's chose the Limbaughs and Falwells of this world.

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okTracer Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:55 PM
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60. He's another Heston
He's just another Heston... Just wait he'll be the next NRA spokes person.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:19 PM
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50. You mean his good manners and measured tone fails to win friends, get jobs
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:19 PM
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51. no mr silver its not the politics, its the talent.
and you dont have much.

wanker.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:20 PM
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52. This is a "position desired" ad to the right wing media monopoly
I won't be surprised if Fox or CNBC has a "Ron Silver Show" debuting inside of the next few weeks. He can interview Dennis Miller, who can then invite him onto the Dennis Miller show for an interview.
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:26 PM
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54. Very astute grasshopper! n/t
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:39 PM
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57. A voice over for a Swift Boat Liar film, perhaps?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:25 PM
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53. Well, Boo-hoo. Btw, Might It Have Been His "Talent"? n/t
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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:35 PM
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56. Patricia Heaton is working; Drew Carey is working; Mel Gibson is working
Maybe Silver is just a no-talent?
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:52 PM
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59. Hi-yo, Silver! You were a piss-poor actor and a bigmouthed douchebag
Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 09:54 PM by Career Prole
before you were a GOP activist. That might be a big part of your problem, y'know.
Dennis Miller was a Hollywood Chickenhawk long before you and he still gets some ink...you just suck dude, face it.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:11 PM
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66. Someone please tell me...
...that Dennis Miller doesn't seriously think he is an actor?! WTF! He's only been in mostly forgettable films (or films you want to forget)...Hello?! The Net anyone? How about Disclosure? There was a great freakin' film.

Ron Silver and Dennis Miller are whining 'tards!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:21 PM
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70. Both films instant classics!
I guess I slept through the sequels. :D
Welcome to DU, Feistygrrl! :hi:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:55 AM
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95. Don't forget
Bordello of Blood
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:58 PM
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61. Ron's GOP Activism has cost thousands of lives...

He's as guilty as Chimpy for all the dead in this stupid war. I'm SO sorry to hear his acting career has suffered....

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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 09:59 PM
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62. No worries Tweety still loves him.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:00 PM
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63. Washed up c-list actor, trying to revive his career
sound like anyone else *cough*Dennis Miller*cough* we know?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:03 PM
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65. Let's look at the record
From IMDB.com:

2004: 3 listings
2003: 2 listings
2002: 2 listings
2001: 4 listings
2000: 4 listings
1999: 3 listings
1998: 4 listings
1997: 1 listings
1996: 5 listings
1995: 4 listings
1994: 1 listings
1993: 2 listings
1992: 2 listings
1991: 2 listings
1990: 3 listings

The rest of his career is no more than 2 listings per year. As for 2004, he's had 3 TV appearances, twice as himself, once on Law and Order.

Yeah, he's just dying out there.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:20 PM
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69. He should have stuck with West Wing
He was doing fine there, but NOOOOOOO, he had to go play a pornographer in a show on Faux that lasted five minutes. Mr. Family Values in a piggy, sleazy show that the right wing had a problem with!

The only thing he has to blame is his poor judgment. He should flog himself or fire his agent. He had a good thing going, not head of the class, but good, steady work, regular pay, opportunity for an expanded role, and he blew it.

Ego, ain't it a bitch!
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:17 PM
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67. eyeroll
Oh, Poor Ron Silver. The world famous star of the films 'DangerZone' and 'Almost Golden: The Jessica Savich Story'. My heart is breaking that the world is not able to see his talent because of those evil hollywood liberals
<sarcasm>
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:19 PM
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68. He doesn't support Kerry because of Michael Moore? I don't support
Ron Silver because of Ariel Sharon. Makes about as much sense.

(Please, I'm not comparing Moore to Sharon. I'm showing the absurdity of Silver's statement.)
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:29 PM
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72. Wasn't he winning Oscars left and right before he became a thug whore?
ooooo sarcasm
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:41 PM
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74. Gee, I thought it was because you're a one-note Pacino impersonator n/t
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:43 PM
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75. I guess Ron doesn't know that Michael Moore is an independent
Of course that wouldn't get him much press, would it? He's been a working actor for 30 years. Most character actors in his situation consider themselves blessed.

As for Moore's film being propaganda, that doesn't mean it isn't TRUE. Sure, propaganda can be spreaking rumors and lies, but it can also be spreading ideas and information, the key is that it's to further one's cause.

Then there's this:

"Barry Greenberg, a Hollywood agent who for many years was a member of the Wednesday Morning Group, a gathering of entertainment industry conservatives, agreed that while the facts may not prove the notion of political blackballing in Hollywood, it remains strongly rooted in lore.

"There has always been the great perception in the industry, that (Hollywood) is run by liberal Democrats and that those of us who are conservative don't work," Greenberg said. "I have spent 23 years in the industry and there is plenty of rumor and innuendo that Charlton Heston lost work and so on."

Good grief, Charlton Heston is EIGHTY! Exactly how many parts are there out there for him, especially with that awful rug he wears. Just keep on riding your NRA gravy train Moses. It's a good gig.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:47 PM
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76. my heart is bleeding, I am crying my eyes out. Let him save
his pennies if he is so hard up like every one else in this country.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:55 PM
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79. Silver is full of BS
Yeah he was just raking in those big roles before he became a GOP Activist. Most Americans probably asked when Ron Silver walked on stage at the RNC "who is he"

Michael Moore is a film maker first foremost and F/911 is a great movie regardless of content. As an actor Silver should know that better than anyone.

This is just a ploy to sell his stupid movie and maybe give his dead career a bit of a spark.
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 10:58 PM
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80. He's a " No talent, fourth rate careers in the toilet Republican"

I think Silvers got it backwards. His career suffering caused him to become a GOP activist not the other way around. Silver saw the writing on the walls and figured the only way to save his pitiful career was to become a whore for the GOP, figuring he'd at least get some attention. If it weren't for his becoming a mouthpiece for the Republicans he'd be just another has-been.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:04 PM
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81. Maybe he should take President Bush's advice.
He needs to go to community college and receive training for a new career. There simply isn't a market for over-the-hill, talentless actors anymore. It's simply the free market at work... supply and demand.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:15 PM
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84. Damn you, Michael Moore! We could have had Ron Silver, but nooo!
Edited on Sun Oct-17-04 11:16 PM by robbedvoter
You had to go ahead and make movies praising a warmongering Dictator and then use your powers in Hollywood...
Wait a sec. Ron! Come back - I think you got your script upside down dahling! Moore's ,Hitler is missing, he appears on your brown nosing list.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:10 AM
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89. Thank you for the Welcome Career Prole!
...Am I the only one that doesn't understand a word Ron Silver says? I saw him when he was on Bill Maher, and he just didn't make any sense at all to me. It was like listening to the adults on Peanuts. You know , "wahhh, wah, waaaah, wah, waahh..."

I tried to watch him on some other show. He started bashing liberals, and I turned the channel.

He is so unworthy of any attention it's pathetic. If he wants to talk about 'quality actors' that have lost work due to their political views, he should go talk to Ed Asner or Alec Baldwin.

Is that an 'L' on Silvers' forehead? Yep, guess he's a LOSER.

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Desperadoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:00 AM
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88. Ron Silver??
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 12:03 AM by eddie4664
This guy is a nobody. A third rate character actor.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:20 AM
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92. One of his finest roles!!! Bwahahahaha! n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:19 AM
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90. ONLY 200K sold in 10 days !
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

BOMB!
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:19 AM
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91. No it's true
that chick from Facts of Life would also have an Oscar now if it wasn't for the evil libruhl media.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:22 AM
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93. Silver?
Doesn't he play an ex-Democrat (badly) on the Republican News Network?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:27 AM
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96. Has it occurred to anyone here
that Silvers and Miller are "auditioning" for a REAL government post in the "new world order"?
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Zang Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:33 AM
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97. holy cr*p!
he was in Timecop!

That explains the rest of the B movie career.

Only thing I can remember him in was Blue Steel, with Jamie Lee
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:11 AM
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102. Haha, Blue Steel is what everyone remembers that jerk in.
And no one even saw it because of that jerkoff either. It was Jamie Lee Curtis who was the REAL star.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:55 AM
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98. silver's probably doing undercover work for the government in his spare
time. There are plenty of "Islamic looking folk" in Hollywood and New York that need to be investigated.

Remember when Elvis was so thrilled to have the honor of being Nixon's number one narc?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:07 AM
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99. I didn't know Goebbels wore a clown suit. eom
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:44 AM
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100. I weep for the bastard.................................................NOT
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
The reasons he gives for backing bush are proof that's he's an idiot.

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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:00 AM
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101. Hey Ron, If you are checking in, which I'm sure you are, GO and
CHENEY yourself. You deserve a night in bed with Cheney and Wife. You'll have lots of fun, we are sure.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:27 AM
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103. funny. bruce willis still gets work.
.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:21 AM
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104. Awwww....This is "GREAT" news....Ron got what was coming to him!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:24 AM
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105. cry me a river, Silver is an A-1 A$$HOLE
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:29 AM
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106. Idgit Extrodinaire! Ron, go find Cheney and "cheney" yourself.
So sorry and no sympathy for your sorry POS a.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:26 AM
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108. Hey Ron
How about EMULATING Michael Moore and making YOUR OWN FILM extolling the VIRTUES of his Godlike Hero George W?

JUst think of all the money to be made, if Moore can make 200 million!

AND YOU could have the starring role, do the voice overs, operate cameras, edit..

look at all the JOBS you'd have in ONE film!

Or,

You could just go fuck yourself, you self absorbed Hack and little Prick.. I know, I've met you at parties in LA and Santa Barbara..

Prick.. and Little..

oh, and an idiot. maybe you could even PLAY Bush with the proper Little PRICK makeup..

Prick.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:35 AM
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110. Oh please, don't stop. Tell us all everything, and really truly how much
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 06:38 AM by anarchy1999
you respect good ole Ron. Thanks, in advance.

On edit/ Goebbels? Ron compares MM to Goebbels? You've simply quite got to be kidding me.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:33 AM
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109. His post debate commentary sounded just like his acting performances
intense

I heard him talk about the night he met Frank Luntz _ it was during the mayoral race with Guiliani _ this guy likes republicans _ he has for a long time
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