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kostya Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:38 AM
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Putin urges voters to back Bush
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:39 AM
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1. One dictator backs another.
Professional courtesy.
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gp Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:39 AM
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2. shut your piehole pootie poot! eom
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:40 AM
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3. This Provides a Great Comeback
to the "foreign leaders endorse Kerry" meme. Which country do you want to emulate?
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:33 PM
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54. problem is the headline is inaccurate
I don't see any statement from Putin urging voters to back Bush.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:18 PM
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60. But, but..... isn't he a commie.
Bush is in league with the communists.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:41 AM
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4. Oh, how are the conservatives going to respond?
Vote Bush because the president of Russia endorses him?

<snort>
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:58 AM
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19. LMAO! exactly
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SquireJons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:06 PM
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22. Yup!!!
Go Pootie Go. Americans just loooove endorsements from Russian Dictators.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:09 PM
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58. watch for the "dastardly Yurpian leaders support Kerry! the horror!"
rhetoric to evaporate
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study_war_no_more Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:42 AM
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5. We are at war with easteurasia?
Putin is doing such a good job in Chechya I will surely put him on my list of informed commentators. Actually he didn't endorse either he said it would be a victory for terrorists if Bush lost- he wasn't specific about who these terrorists were excactly.
Empty warheads support each other no surprize here.
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:18 PM
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59. support each other
Well don't forget George looked into Putin's soul and I guess saw the same kind of bastard that he is so that explains it.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:42 AM
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6. It could lead to the spread of terrorism? Were school kids being massacred
by terrorists prior to the Iraq war?
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The White Tree Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:52 PM
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37. I love that quote from Kurt Vonnegut
I never saw that before. I sent it to my wife. Thanks.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:11 PM
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40. It's from an interview he did in In These Times earlier this year
I'll post the link later when I get home...don't have it on this computer. You can google Vonnegut and In These Times and find it easily though. :hi:
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:20 PM
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42. Sure
around 40,000 of them, but that's not to be talked about.. those were done mostly by bombs and artillery shells, and not flamethrowers.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:43 AM
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7. One incompetent dictator backs another.
Gotta have a friend SOMEWHERE, I suppose.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:46 AM
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8. So just to be clear. . .
When a foreign leader backs Bush, the opinions of other world leaders matter. When an overwhelming majority of foreign leaders back Kerry, we shouldn't let outsiders decide our elections?
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:52 AM
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14. The only standards that apply to Repugs are double standards.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:33 PM
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28. That about sums it up, I think.
Typical mexed missages...
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:46 AM
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9. Terrorists don't care who our president is.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 11:52 AM by Kimber Scott
I really don't believe the terrorists give a shit who our president is. Refering to terrorists as having a sway on our election processes one way, or another, does nothing more than empower them. This is our country, our vote. Not Putin's, not terrorists', not even Great Britain's. One American. One vote. Period.
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Rhoderick Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:46 AM
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10. That's an endorsement...
...that I don't think Bush is proud to have. And if he is proud to have it, we should all be very afraid. I think the conotation is obvious: President Bush turns a blind eye to Putin's anti-Democratic "reforms" and, in return, Putin pretends to support Bush's GWOT.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:47 AM
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11. I would rather play chess against Bush rather than Kerry too
Bush thinks the game is Liar's Poker. Putin has been eating his lunch.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:49 AM
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12. "Don't forget Russia!", hehehe. n/t
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:50 AM
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13. Putin says Back Bush
because he isn't all over me for trampling my own citizen's personal freedoms....as he is doing the same.

by the way the war was wrong.

Kerry spells more trouble for Putin, and he knows it.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:52 AM
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15. Very KGB / Real Politik

Putin knows that with bumblin', stumblin' Chimpy in there that Russia is in a much better leadership position. Plus, Chimpy will by design and through policy keep oil prices high, which is great for Russia.

Putin has no love for the Chimp, but he knows what's best for Russian power, and that's an inept oilman in the White House.

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Arianrhod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:37 PM
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32. That's my thought, too.
Putin just signed a deal to take an air base in Tajikistan, which is right on the Chinese border. Add that to the one they have in Kyrgyzstan next door, and they have a perfect air corridor along that border, plus access to Afghanistan.

I'm wondering if Putin is hoping another * term will further undermine America's economy and credibility, and stretch our army out even further--all of which would work to Russia's advantage.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:38 PM
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64. I think you two have nailed it.
I was wondering why he seemed to want Bush to win and resorted to a cheap fear tactic to try to bring that about. Oil and money, along with the gradual destruction of a global superpower (without firing a shot), is why.
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Arianrhod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:53 AM
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77. It's how we defeated them. n/t
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:53 AM
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16. i am suposed to care what Putin thinks ?
This is too funny. If only Breshnev had come out in support of Richard Nixon or Andropov in support of Reagan, maybe those elections would not have been Repug Landslides.

This is too funny. Thank you, Comrade Putin.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:55 AM
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17. Putin pwns Chimpy
He doesn't want someone with an actual brain leading the United States. As it is, Chimpy thinks he is best buds with Vladdie. "I looked into his eyes and saw a man of God!"

Anyone who thinks they can read someone who was/is KGB needs a brain installed.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:58 AM
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18. Ironic that the head of the country that repugs have loved to hate
now endorses their candidate. If Russia had endorsed Kerry you could be assured that repugs would be yelling about the Commies endorsing the Liberal. Now the shoe is on the right foot. What do you think they'll say?
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:06 PM
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23. They will continue to label Kerry and any Democrat
as a socialist as they drive their Hummer to the Communist Chinese Outlet Mall (commonly called Walmart).
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:36 PM
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31. rethug response will B the sound
of crickets chirping.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:00 PM
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20. I remember a time in the not-so-distant past that backing from Russia
would be the kiss of death for an American politician.
Now the French are the "enemy".
I f**king understand completely...
:shrug:
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:04 PM
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21. Former KGB Agent/Commie supports Bush
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:20 PM
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68. Would you please
quit referring to him as a "commie"? There are Communists in Russia but Putin has nothing to do with them.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:23 AM
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79. How quickly Putin changed
when it was to his benefit.

From an in-depth report on Putin from Der Spiegel (German newsmagazine):

"What were some of Ussolzev's personal impressions of his colleague Putin? "He was a pragmatist," says the former KGB officer, "someone who thinks one thing and says something else." Someone who was a "complete conformist" and did not believe in any changes in his native country, who played the role of the committed Communist to keep up appearances, and who called his colleague an "idiot" because of his "provincial openness." According to Ussolzev, Putin told him to restrain his criticism of conditions in the Soviet Union and think about his family."

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/english/0,1518,270555,00.html




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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:07 PM
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24. Gosh. Why doesn't Chimpy ask his pal Vlad to stand down his nukes...
...pointed toward the USA? It would seem like the friendly thing to do.

Don

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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:14 PM
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25. He doesn't want Kerry sending the UN into Chechnya
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:19 PM
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26. I can see why. But his thinking is strategically flawed.
I am almost certain that he believes that another Bush term will significantly alter the balance-of-power betweens leading powers and that a multipolar order is thereby more likely. Also, he correctly sees Bush as ideological cover for nationalist policies domestically. But the problem is that the instability created by the US under Bush will not only undermine the US, it will also harm Russia.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:22 PM
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27. OF COURSE, who would you like to face in competition for the world -
chimp or kerry? duh?

New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:33 PM
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29. Alright Pootie poot,
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 12:34 PM by crunchyfrog
I wasn't going to, but how could I turn down the reccomendation of a former high official in the KGB. I'm sure that in that capacity, you absolutely know what is best for American democracy. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways in supporting Kerry.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:36 PM
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30. Didn't Kerry mention something in the debates about cleaning up the
nukes selling on the black market out of Russia--or something to that effect? I'm gonna go find a link. I know I heard this right.

That would explain alot of the so-called "endorsement."
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legally blonde Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:41 PM
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33. Isn't this the same guy who stopped elections
in Russia because of "terrorists"??? Hmmmm. :tinfoilhat:
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:21 PM
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69. Yes.
n/t
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:43 PM
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34. This should serve as a resounding endorsement for Kerry.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:46 PM
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35. I'll bet Osama Bin Laden thinks people should vote for Bush.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:51 PM
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36. Why, Yes, Le's *Do* Listen to a Blood-covered Spymaster
And, let's see: He supports Shrub, but opposes the Iraq war, and claims that terrorist attacks are aimed at defeating Shrub but he will respect whatever decisions U.S. voters make------whoa, he's doing one of those mind-control experiments on me! My head is spinning.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:53 PM
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38. I see hordes of loans going to Putin compliments of Tax payers
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:08 PM
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39. Kremlin Backs Bu$h? n/t
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:13 PM
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41. Actually, if Putin backed Kerry that would not be good.
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JolietDem Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:44 PM
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43. Bush on Putin
"I looked into the man's eyes...I got a sense of his soul."
- George W. Bush on Putin

Birds of a feather stick together...I look into Putin's eyes and see only darkness...but maybe there's something more sinister about the fraternalism of Bush/Putin...Putin was a former KGB operative...Bush Sr. was the former head of the CIA, and both of them at the time when our countries where the worst of enemies...hmmmm
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:10 AM
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73. That is a good point too! n/t
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JolietDem Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:44 PM
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44. Bush on Putin
"I looked into the man's eyes...I got a sense of his soul."
- George W. Bush on Putin

Birds of a feather stick together...I look into Putin's eyes and see only darkness...but maybe there's something more sinister about the fraternalism of Bush/Putin...Putin was a former KGB operative...Bush Sr. was the former head of the CIA, and both of them at the time when our countries where the worst of enemies...hmmmm
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ladybugg33 Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:48 PM
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46. You are right. Putin wants free reign to terrorize the Chechens.
One evil being supporting another.

Ok. so Bush has the media, the courts, the corportations, the Feds, the military, the Swifties, Putin, Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, and Nader campaigning for him. Kerry is doing very well considering how much the deck is stacked against him.
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6th Borough Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:12 PM
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47. Also, the policy of preemptive war (which = Georgia for Putin) /NT
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:24 PM
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72. We and the Brits are building a pipeline
through Georgia.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 06:12 AM
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74. yes, and considering what other incentives Bush has given Putin
that is scary. But, as you said, Kerry is holding his own very well
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LiberteToujours Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:44 PM
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45. So let's MAKE something of this
One area that Republicans really have us beat is in kicking up a big shitstorm about nothing at all. This IS something and we need to make a fuss about it. Keep repeating, "Russian dictator backs Bush, Bush leadership is good for Russia's national interests". Let's not just let this one die at the end of the news cycle. Repeat, repeat, hammer it in, Bush is good for Russia, bad for America!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:32 PM
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48. Too funny! Won't THIS cause some dissonance among the commie
hatin' conservatives!
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:34 PM
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49. Mussolini liked Hitler too
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:39 PM
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50. pootie poot pootie pootpootie poot pootie pootpootie poot pootie poot
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kenny-boy lay

condie-cane
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:45 PM
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52. Lmao! Love that pic!
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:13 AM
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75. me too LOL
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:42 PM
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51. Dictators of a feather flock together.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:03 PM
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53. Who cares what he thinks?
Who cares what Pootie Poot thinks? Why should I care the Bush has picked up the all important Eurasian dictator endorcement?

MzPip
:dem:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:00 PM
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55. Where's the repuke outrage they had when reports of foreign leaders
endorsing Kerry made them go ballistic and demand to know who, and how it was against the law, etc., etc.?
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sr_pacifica Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:01 PM
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56. Well, he's a chip off the ol' block isn't he?
With his undemocratic reforms...
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:05 PM
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57. "Saint" Ronnie must be spinning in his grave
since he was so anxious to start the bombing.

Judge a man by the company he keeps, I say. Smirky has always had a hard time making the right friends...
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:21 PM
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61. You gotta be pulling my choke.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:29 PM
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62. Bush is a communist sympathizer
Once a Red, always a Red. Any candidate who would accept support from a Commie bastard like Putin is clearly disloyal and unfit to hold office.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:37 PM
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63. I urge Putin to go Cheney himself.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:50 PM
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65. I'm waiting til the Saudi Royal Family endorses someone
call me an "undecided voter" until then.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:21 PM
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66. Didn't Bandar already campaign for W? Although in his country...
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 06:22 PM by robbedvoter
I remember this exchange on MTP:

MR. RUSSERT:   Who's more popular in your country, Osama bin Laden or George W. Bush?

PRINCE BANDAR:  We never put those--this polling there.  But..
(never answered)
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:05 PM
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67. Our country is seriously weakened
...with the exploitative and corrupt leadership now at the helm. Of course, Putin would endorse them.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:23 PM
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70. From one facist to another.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:23 PM
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71. From one facist to another.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:34 AM
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76. Yet
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:01 AM
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78. Maybe Putin wants us to go bankrupt
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