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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:07 PM
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Sheriff: Man says he was hired to provide phony voter registrations
Associated Press


DEFIANCE, Ohio - A man was arrested Monday on a felony charge of submitting phony voter registration forms, and investigators were looking into allegations that he was paid with crack cocaine in exchange for his efforts, authorities said.

Chad Staton, 22, of Defiance, had fraudulently filled out more than 100 voter registration forms, Defiance County Sheriff David Westrick said.

"Staton was to be paid for each registration form that he could get citizens to fill out," the sheriff said. "However, Staton himself filled out the registrations and returned them to the woman who hired him from Toledo."

Staton was charged with false registration and was released on his recognizance to await arraignment on Friday in Defiance Municipal Court.

more: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/9951514.htm
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:09 PM
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1. That's not what the article says.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:19 PM
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2. He made them up it sounds like. No one told him to. So those newly
registered won't vote.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:31 PM
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3. No matter how many fake forms are submitted, they
are useless unless they can get people to come in, with id, to vote.

Man, freepers really are the stupidest creatures on the planet because they haven't figured that part out yet.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:13 PM
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39. Doesn't matter if their main objective is to make the Dem votes
questionable after the election. I think this story broke before it was planned to. :shrug:
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 03:36 PM
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4. Hey I live in Defiance...
the paper said some where real names and that the board of elections sent letters to the addresses saying they could not vote without proper id.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:20 PM
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26. I live in defiance too!
Oh...you mean the town? I live in the attitude. :D
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:02 PM
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5. these were submitted by people answering to the NAACP apparently
..could be very interesting if there is more to the story...
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:38 PM
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9. Almost every elected official in Defiance County is a republican.
That will not even be challenged by a Democrat this election.

Perfect place for Rove to pull one of his dirty tricks.
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:49 PM
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10. zorra- can I mail you $1 so you can buy a clue?
..the woman who was recruited by the NAACP of cleveland has already admitted to paying Staton with crack cocaine in lieu of cash...she was working for NAACP- not rove....
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:56 PM
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11. How about if you buy yourself one instead?
You believe all of the right wing lies and spin, or just this one?
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:05 PM
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12. democrat- sorry, I dont need one...
..if this kind of bs happened from the Repubs, youd be all over them..the fact is Georgianne Pitts of Toledo has already admitted toi paying Staton w crack cocaine. Democrat, you just dont have the balls to own your own garbage and this one came from OUR side..how many swing voters will be alienated by this?..yeh, lets all blame Rove when we have our own set of slackers to deal with.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:29 PM
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18. You've got a basic problem recognizing what constitutes factual...
...information. Just because the media reports something doesn't make it true.

And when you say "our", to which "our" are you referring?
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:43 PM
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19. Thadeus Jackson II of NAACP has already
..acknowledged Pitts as a volunteer working on behalf of NAACP....Medialiesdaily- is it that hard for YOU to do a little research?- try toledoblade.com .....you can enjoy reading that with the crow youre having for dinner....
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:45 PM
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21. as to 'our'-I dobt NAACP is targeting voter drives
...for the benefit of Bush.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:11 PM
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13. So? What's that got to do with it?
Pay someone enough for a setup and they'll do it.

It looks like a republican set-up to make the NAACP look bad.

The NAACP is not going to be stupid enough to tell someone to pay Staton in crack to get voter registrations.

Republicans nationwide are already trying to keep blacks from voting, so who knows what these creeps will do to spin their efforts to commit voter fraud.

This is probably an attempt by republicans to justify their harassment and intimidation of black voters in Ohio.

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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:20 PM
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14. Rove wouldnt be THIS stupid.
..the trail leads back to Pitts. Im not saying NAACP told Pitts to pay staton in Crack cocaine. Pitts acted independently IMO... Staton was obviously being compensated on the # of applications he submitted..my question is, was Pitts ALSO being compensated on the # of applications turned in to NAACP?- regardless, I think any of us here, had we been Rove , would have been able to dream up a better scheme than this. Pitts is a slacker.NAACP image stands to lose on this one,as they hired Pitts.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:27 PM
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17. Do you have any documentation proving what you just posted?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:48 PM
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22. I think you're Rove. Hi Rove.
Okay, maybe you aren't Rove. But, you sure do act like I'd expect Rove to act, "tooncesj0nes".
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:58 PM
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24. so its Rovian ...
...to take responsibility for the fact that an organization (NAACP) that can be considered loyal to the Democratic cause hired a no good slacker?....no wonder moderates are on the fence when it comes to supporting us...
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factcheck Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:13 PM
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25. Exactly!!!
This is hilarious!!!

When the media reports even the most spurious of claims against the Republicans, we treat it as if it is an open and shut case of voter fraud perpetrated by the Republicans - and especially by Rove himself, even if it involves only 100 voters.

But, when a story like this comes out, well it must be 'media lies' or a 'Republican setup'.

Riiiiight!!!

Was someone recently questioning why there are so many undecideds? Maybe they would LIKE to support Kerry, but then they get wind of the type of rhetoric in this thread......
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:33 PM
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28. We?
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Carson Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:58 PM
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36. Ah, you've caught on...
I don't have to suspend disbelief much to think that there ARE strange things going on, and that Repubs are behind it.

However, we do have kooks as well. The kind of cognitive dissonance it takes to believe that a Democrat (or a Kerry-voter) would never do anything wrong/illegal (read some of the sign vandalism threads. Each instance HAD to be Repubs doing it to themselves to make Kerry supporters look bad) is something I haven't been able to master.

I'm sure it happens. But not all the time, every time.

When facts come to light, then we'll know. Until then, I prefer to keep my mouth shut. Sometimes silence makes one look more intelligent. ;-)

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:00 PM
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38. Even if this was true, it has NOTHING to do with Kerry
But this is yet another version of the 'giving cigarettes to the homeless for their votes' story.
Rove is a documented election rigger and vote disqualifier. he is a professional. Didn't you see the case of the GOP attempting to move aound Philly polling places? The courts shot them down.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:32 PM
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27. NAACP National Voter Fund is a non-partisan 501c4,
a separate organization from the NAACP you keep referring to. You're making a lot of assumptions, the right-wing kind.
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:57 PM
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34. as stated previously...
I doubt that the NAACP or its affiliates would be targeting voter registration in areas that would be beneficial to republicans...assumptions of the right wing kind?- perhaps you can elaborate on that?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:26 PM
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16. Here's YOUR clue...she CLAIMED she was hired by the NAACP....
...who really hired her remains to be seen, doesn't it?
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tooncesj0nes Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:52 PM
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23. because she WAS hired by NAACP...
..see post 19....Im not saying NAACP has a motivation of commiting fraud. This is thwe act of an independent party- Pitts...some of you can claim Rove..but I guarantee as the story unfolds, that defense will seem pretty weak....best to own up to it- NAACp hired a slacker.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:46 PM
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33. This is more than likely part of a plan by Rove to smear the NAACP.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 06:48 PM by Zorra
Since every single day we find out about another very devious republican attempt at election fraud, I have no recourse but to believe that this is just another republican dirty deed.

Carter fears 'vote cheating'

Former US president Jimmy Carter on Monday expressed fears that there could be vote cheating in battleground states in the US election on November 2.

"I'm still a little bit concerned that there might be some improprieties on election day, as there was in Florida" in 2000, Carter, who regularly takes part in international electoral observer missions, told ABC television.

"If it's a very close election, then the improper actions of powerful political leaders who happen to be partisan could shape the election one way or the other, particularly say in Florida or Ohio," added the former Democrat president.

Carter highlighted lawsuits that have been filed in key states, where Republican president George W Bush and his Democratic rival John Kerry are in a close battle. He said that in these states "there's some doubt that the election will be honest and fair and open and transparent". Carter, who led a commission that proposed changes to the US election system after the 2000 vote debacle in Florida, said the best way to avoid fraud was to ensure "intense scrutiny from the very beginning".

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/US_Elections/0,6119,...


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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:34 PM
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29. Not to mention the NVF says she was a volunteer.
Toonces may be right, this may well be Rovian, but not in the way she wants it to be, but it the way it so tiresomely always is.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:40 PM
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30. "looking into allegations" is not an admittance of anything.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:09 PM
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6. Heehee...Defiance in Defiance, it's not just a place in OHIO! LOL
I remember a Far Side with a guy being dragged by two police with a sign that said, "Defiance," and he was saying, "It really is a place in Ohio." My mom is from Defiance Ohio.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:40 PM
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37. I have lived in Defiance (the city) for...
well over 30 years. It is the most republican town I have ever been in.The current mayor is a dem (a weak one tho)about every other office is repub.Take it from me this place really SUCKS!!!!!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:11 PM
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7. Not to worry
Voters who registered for the first time have to show ID. The guy who submitted the bogus registrations harmed the organization that paid him to register voters and the registrar's office that had to process the bogus registrations, but none of the phony would-be voters can vote.

Republicans are complaining a lot about voters who fraudulently vote more than once. But think about it, who is best situated to commit this kind of voter fraud? Someone who can legitimately claim two addresses in two separate states. For example, retired people who live in New York or Ohio and also have winter homes in Florida. They could register (and theoretically vote) in both places. Students are another also might be registered and able to vote in two states. Who do you think is better positioned to do it? Affluent Republicans or the rest of us Democrats.

Only a pretty stupid person would vote more than once. Consider the consequences if you get caught.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:21 PM
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15. It is too much trouble voting in two locations
I always felt the consequences were sufficient to prevent voter fraud by most people. When they have to consider that they will face a major fine and jail time who really in their right mind wants to take that chance?
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:45 PM
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20. The last I heard
We do pretty well among retired people and college students. Wouldn't that would seem to mitigate your argument that Repukes are best positioned to commit this kind of voter fraud?
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:43 PM
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31. just one more reason we need a provisional ballot
Maybe Cheney pays geedubya in crack cocaine, if he's really good and eats his peas.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 04:11 PM
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8. "Republicans hire man to provide phony claims about voter registration"
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:44 PM
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32. No, see, a crack head wouldn't do something like that.
even they have their standards.

/sarcasm off/
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Squeegee Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:31 PM
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35. Did the crack...
... come from Bush's stash?
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