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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:12 PM
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Buchanan Reluctantly Backs Bush (CBS)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/18/politics/main650023.shtml
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Despite Pat Buchanan’s stand against the war in Iraq and the ballooning deficit, the conservative icon and onetime presidential candidate officially endorsed President Bush on Monday. For Buchanan, some conservative is better than no conservative, he said in an interview.

“While I disagree with the president on trade policy, Iraq, immigration policy and big government, I agree with him on taxes and judges and values and sovereignty,” Buchanan explains. “I disagree with Kerry on everything.”

Buchanan says if Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry should win, then a “civil war” will immediately break-out for control of the Republican Party – neoconservatives verses conservatives.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:14 PM
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1. No surprise
He said he'd back Bush on Hardball over a month ago.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:32 PM
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7. Yup. Once a Repuke A-Hole, alwasy a Repuke A-Hole. No surprise.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:14 PM
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2. And if Bush wins
A civil war is likely to break out...period.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:17 PM
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3. A civil war - not just likely - it WILL happen if Dubya steals another
election.

And I'll be on the front lines at the White House ready to take down every friggin' neo-con I can dig out of that mudhole.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:20 PM
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4. what a freaking loser ...
that's the last time I read his rants....
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:22 PM
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5. What an ass.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 10:23 PM by grytpype
Assholes like Buchanan put party and class over country every time.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:24 PM
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6. Pat, Bush is no conservative
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:32 PM
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8. Are quislings typically
hung or shot?

no matter.
dp
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:33 PM
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9. Buchanan endorses Bush. This is a positive thing, right?
This the person who gave the convention speech that Molly Ivins said sounded better in the original German.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:53 PM
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19. I bet his endorsement sounds better in the original German as well
BushCo, BushCo uber alles...
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:04 PM
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10. Isn't there a Libertarian running he could endorse? Besides, I would
think Pat would be all for a civil war in the Republican Party.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:06 PM
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11. Pat is
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 11:37 PM by necso
"exaggerating".

If Kerry wins, the neos-cons won't be able to put up much of a fight -- they (or their leaders and operatives, more properly) will be too busy dodging legal action -- and the true conservatives will have a relatively easy time of it.

This "war" has been going on for decades -- and the conservatives have been thoroughly routed. I know -- I fought in this "war" for years. And I still carry on the fight now -- in my own way -- and with the only people who can turn back this evil tide of neo-con corruption and pollution.

Pat's trying to make a big, bad deal of a good thing (a Kerry win) -- so as to scare conservatives into thinking that it will harm the (Republican) Party. It won't. In fact, it will be good for the Party, good for conservatives and good for conservatism.

Pat (I suspect) expects Kerry to win, and by making sure that he (Pat) is seen as an a "faithful" Republican, he expects to get a big piece of the pie coming to conservatives when the neos go down, without taking any risk.

It's a "safe" move -- and maybe a smart one.

Of course, I wouldn't want to be Pat if the neo-cons do win -- the neo-cons are big into payback -- and he has laid a lot of hurt on them (albeit a carefully selected few of them -- that is, a carefully selected few of the neo-cons). But then, so have others -- and I wouldn't want to be one of them either.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:16 PM
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12. what good is half-assed support? it makes bush look like an idiot.
eom
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:28 PM
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13. Ummm
If Bush and Kerry disagree on Iraq, and Pat Disagrees with Bush, then how can Pat disagree with Kerry on everything?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:32 PM
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14. Yeah, right, and Buchanan 'reluctantly' breathes, too.
He never gets enough attention to satisfy the voices in his head. :eyes:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:32 PM
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15. Logically, he probably does agree with Kerry on some things
"While I disagree with the president on trade policy, Iraq, immigration policy and big government..."

If he disagrees with Bush on these matters, and Kerry disagrees with Bush on these matters, it stands to reason that their positions are probably not that far apart. Buchanan just won't face the truth about how far Bush and the neo-cons have departed from traditional positions.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:35 PM
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16. you are either for him or against him - there is no reluctant
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:42 PM
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17. Wonder what happened to the Constitutional candidate?
I saw Pat on Hardball, I think, several weeks ago, when he said he wasn't voting for shrub. Chris asked him who he would be voting for, and he said "probably the Constitution Party Candidate"!

Poor old guy must have gotten threatened.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:47 PM
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18. Wow....I am SHOCKED....SHOCKED, I tell ya..
There was not one chance in HELL that he would have supported Kerry.. Pat's the same ole blowhard he always was..:)
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:29 AM
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20. Yeah, but he was backing that guy from the
Constitution Party (or whatever), right?

And he could have stayed with that position. So "moving" to Bush seems to be movement. And while I suppose that it was planned all along, still Pat doesn't like the neo-cons much, and one would like to believe of him anyway, that he might have expressed this with his public stance.

Yeah, you're right -- no chance of him doing anything else than backing Bush.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:31 AM
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21. FUCK YOU BUCHANAN
You're an ignorant, limp piece of shit--a civil war is EXACTLY what this SICK, EVIL "party" needs
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:54 AM
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22. Buchannon probably wants
to continue to fly in small private planes. :tinfoilhat:
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