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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:09 AM
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Bush Changes Context for War
WASHINGTON — In the campaign debate over Iraq (news - web sites), one constant has been the divide between the presidential candidates on the issue of inconsistency.

President Bush (news - web sites) has stressed his resolve while accusing Sen. John F. Kerry (news, bio, voting record) of sending "mixed messages" on the war in Iraq. He pounded that point on Monday in his latest sharp attack on Kerry, saying, "For three years, depending on the headlines, the poll numbers and political calculation, he has taken almost every conceivable position on Iraq."

Yet an analysis of Bush's statements on Iraq show that he also has sent differing, if not necessarily conflicting, signals on a key war-related question.

Bush's shifts have come not on the decision to overthrow former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), but why that action was justified.

Both before and after the invasion, Bush built his case for war on basically the same set of elements. But the prominence placed on each element has clearly shifted.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/latimests/20041019/ts_latimes/bushchangescontextforwar
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:12 AM
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1. 24 different excuses for invading Iraq.
24.


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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:14 AM
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2. What now?
Did Saddam have to removed from power because he left the toilet seat up? That would certainly resonate with women voters.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:16 AM
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3. YES!
That was the reason all along!

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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:16 AM
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4. How many "mixed messages" from Bush?
The list is endless. I really think his "compassionate conservative" is an out-and-out lie!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:25 AM
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5. Everything the man says
is a lie. I like the quote from Stan Goff: "If their lips are moving, they're lying".
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:34 AM
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6. Vote 5s!! It's being FREEPED!
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:45 AM
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7. FLIP-FLOP!!!! FLIP-FLOP!!!!!
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UCLA Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:49 AM
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8. LAT article of course
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:57 AM
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9. This is also known as lying about your motives
"Stephen Skowronek, a political scientist at Yale University, said Bush has often kept his goals constant even when circumstances force him to change the rationale for them."

A politician that lies about his motives has a hidden agenda, by definition.

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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:05 PM
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10. I gave it a 5... n/t
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:20 PM
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11. gave it a 5
it's at 4.4 something now.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:45 PM
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12. I would have to tell the ignorant bastard to name any two positions
John Kerry has taken on the Iraq war. He has been consistent from the time he signed the IWR.

Then, show me how 4 different positions on the rationale for going to war isn't exactly the same thing. What a fucking colostomy bag!!!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:58 PM
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13. shifting justifications for War - NOW the media picks up on it
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