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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:44 PM
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Ex-Hostage Walks Off-Stage at Ohio Debate
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 02:51 PM by CottonBear
Thursday October 21, 2004 8:16 PM

MARIETTA, Ohio (AP) - Former Mideast hostage Terry Anderson walked out of a debate in his state Senate campaign, angry over his opponent's use of a photo of him with an official of the Hezbollah guerrilla group.

Anderson, a Democrat, faulted a brochure from Republican Sen. Joy Padgett that says he suggested shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorism that ``America's enemies have reason to hate us.''

Anderson was chief Middle East correspondent for The Associated Press when he was kidnapped in Lebanon by Iranian-sponsored terrorists in 1985. He was freed in 1991.

At Wednesday's debate, Anderson declined to answer the first question, instead making a statement of protest and then walking out.

<http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4567032,00.html>
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:49 PM
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1. My wife grew up in Marietta
This sickens me.
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TryingToWarnYou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:13 PM
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16. My family on my Mothers side is all from there...
Marietta is such a cool town.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:49 PM
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2. you won't find coverage of this on cnn or fox
a change is gonna come
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:58 PM
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7. He was a hostage for 6 years.
My god. These people have no shame, no compassion and no ability (or desire) to learn from history. Anderson is a brave man. He actually returned to Lebanon to confront his former captors. He could have continued to live a quiet, private life post-captivity, yet, he is running for public office. That Padgett woman is just awful. Stupid and awful.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:48 PM
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31. RATE THIS STORY ON YAHOO
Maybe not on CNN but it's out there and it's got legs.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041021/ap_on_el_st_lo/former_hostage_debate_2

You have given the news article Ex-Hostage Walks Off-Stage at Ohio Debate a rating of 5.
Its current average rating is 4.23 with 45 vote(s).


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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:14 PM
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32. 4.5 with 66 votes eom
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:24 AM
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54. 4.31 with 355 votes
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:51 PM
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3. don'tchya just love
how only the Brits tend to cover this kind of stuff. . .not.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:52 PM
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4. Joy
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:56 PM
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6. Those Damn Muppets...
get better every decade.

Jay
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:58 PM
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8. Figures
fat white Repuke--why are they all so UGLY and hateful?
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:09 PM
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15. Um, what does her weight status have to do with anything?
Aren't we the same people who oppose the repubs referring to MM all the time as "fat"?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:44 PM
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26. I have noticed a difinite anti-fat sentiment among some on DU
That this woman is overweight is not the reason why she is running a negative and vile campaign. But then on a progressive site like ours it is a bit disconcerting to see all the posts which label some women as cunts or whores.
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cubsfan forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:49 AM
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59. I completely agree
what does ANYONE'S appearance have to do with this? We need to keep to the issues.

Professor 2
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:41 AM
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50. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:27 AM
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55. Everybody has "issues", fat people just have to wear theirs around for
everyone to see. My sister is chubby and of course she has issues, and everyone can see that. I am not chubby and of course I have issues, and it is not brought to mind by looking at me. "Every fat person has issues" is a silly thing to say in my opinion.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:43 AM
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58. I'm a "fatty" who takes exception to what you said
If I have any "issues" it is with judgemental people who assume they know all about me because of my weight.

Be careful--someday you might become what you don't like.
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takumi Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:16 PM
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18. Looks like she's eaten one too many "Almond Joy" candy bars!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:17 PM
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19. this woman was badly misnamed -
should have called her "Nasty"
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 06:51 PM
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35. Hmmmm


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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 08:36 PM
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45. Sent her an email
"For shame" is how I ended it.

She's ugly on the inside and it shows through. What an evil weed. I hope Terry can pull her out of the statehouse.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:56 PM
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5. Typical republican slime
although I wasn't aware Terry Anderson was running. I hope he gets elected. Padgett sounds like she's completely munted.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:01 PM
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9. Thanks for link Cotton Bear. I advise all to spread this story via
media blaster.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:08 PM
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14. You're welcome henslee.
Excellent idea. I'm a newbie and still need to learn how to use the media blaster.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:41 PM
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25. pretty easy, just be sure to use BCC feature on your email program.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:04 PM
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10. Isn't it amazing, what 'offends' these people? The idea that the
US could ever do something 'wrong' is offensive, but not the the actual things that we do!!
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:13 PM
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17. same as them beating their wives and having sex with their
children - they are against it except in their own house secretely - they hate themselves and oppose what they are doing
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:29 AM
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60. when the truth stares them in the face, they react with rage
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:06 PM
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11. this is a freaking state senate seat
I grew up about an hour north of Marietta in West Virginia--the whole area has gone wing-nut

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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:53 PM
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28. "the whole area has bone wing-nut"
Not really. But the xtian zealots, and RW'ers have the biggest mouths here. You would be supprised at the support for Kerry in this district.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:07 PM
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12. I met Terry Anderson 9 years ago
He's an amazing man. I'm glad he's running for state Senate.

Hawkeye-X
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:43 PM
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30. My daughter and I saw him speak at her university campus......
and yes, he is an amazing man. Glad he's a Dem and hope he wins.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:07 PM
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13. They have no sense of shame
In their Orwellian world, up is down, good is bad. This is so bizarre. I cant take much more of this.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:19 PM
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22. Welcome to DU triguy46!
:hi:

Glad to have you here :)

Orwell is definitely spinning in his grave. He just predicted it 20 years early.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:20 PM
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23. Anderson looked at Padgett and said,
“I have one word for you Senator: Shame.”

Anderson apologized to the League of Women Voters and the audience. He then said he will not appear again with Sen. Padgett.

“This is a new low in attack politics in Ohio , which cannot be condoned by any responsible person,” Anderson said. At the end of his statement, he walked out of the debate.

<http://www.terryandersonforohiosenate.com/mailerpressrelease.php>
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:18 PM
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20. Anderson Press Release
http://www.terryandersonforohiosenate.com/mailerpressrelease.php

Padgett Uses Photo of Anderson Kidnapper in Attack Mailer 10.20.04

Opponent Sinks to New Low in Attack Politics Misusing Image of Hezbollah Captor to Imply Anderson Is Soft on Terrorism

Terry Anderson, Democratic candidate for the Ohio Senate 20th District, sharply criticized his opponent Sen. Joy Padgett for the new low in personal attacks she reached this week in her campaign. In a campaign brochure mailed across the Southeast Ohio district, Padgett and the Ohio Republican Party published a photo of Anderson confronting one of his kidnappers and implied that he is soft on terrorism.

“The man in this photo and his brothers were the ones who kidnapped me, chained me, blindfolded me, and beat me,” Anderson said in a statement at a debate in Marietta , Ohio on Wednesday night. “They held me for seven years. And I had the guts to go back to Lebanon to ask him why, and whether he could admit that was wrong.

“Now, my political opponent sinks so low as to use my former captor to try to get herself elected,” Anderson continued. “Some things are more important than politics and more important than winning at any cost.”

The advertisement carries a photo of Anderson interviewing the secretary general of Hezbollah, leader of the pro-Iranian Islamic party in Lebanon, which was responsible for kidnapping him and holding him hostage for seven years. Anderson was the longest held American hostage in Beirut until he was finally released on December 4, 1991.

“I have spent 13 years trying not to hate, trying to learn to forgive , because I am a Christian, and I am required to do so,” Anderson said. “And my opponent wants you to believe that makes me soft on terrorism. She demeans my profession. She demeans my family's pain.”

“Ask my daughter how she felt not to have a father for seven years because he took one chance too many to tell the truth, to do his job,” he added.

Anderson said he has focused his campaign on the issues of jobs, education and health care.

“I have attacked my opponent's record,” he said. “I have attacked the failed policies of the inept Taft administration. I have never attacked her personally.”

Anderson looked at Padgett and said, “I have one word for you Senator: Shame.”

Anderson apologized to the League of Women Voters and the audience. He then said he will not appear again with Sen. Padgett.

“This is a new low in attack politics in Ohio , which cannot be condoned by any responsible person,” Anderson said. At the end of his statement, he walked out of the debate.

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BlueNomad Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:18 PM
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21. That's the Rove-ian
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 03:18 PM by BlueNomad
strategy. Take a person's actual strength and piss on it, rip to shreds, tear it down and mutate it into something suspicious, suspect or perverse. It's sickening and appeals to the bottom dwellers of society who have their own vast limitations. The same was done to Max Clealnd, John McCain and Senator Kerry. The good news is some people now recognize this for what it is, evil smearing and they reject it vehemently.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:39 PM
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24. I'm sending this story and the ohio flu shot story to Arnold. Maybe
he wll think twice about biting off more than he can chew.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:43 PM
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34. No not Arnold - send it to Maria - pronto
I am serious as a heart attack, send it to her, tell her this is why Arnold needs to stay home.

I am also forwarding this to the Kerry camp and as many news media (national) as I can.

Appalling
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:45 PM
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27. It is deplorable what they are doing to Terry Anderson
and yes it is interesting that this story gets coverage in the UK but nada here.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:57 PM
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29. Nothing is beneath them. I TRY not to hate repubs,
really I do but goddam it, have they NO SHAME???? Yes, they have no shame.
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 05:33 PM
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33. I met Anderson shortly after he was released as a hostage.
As a journalist, he sees both sides of an issue. As a hostage, he saw a perspective only a handful of people have seen and would never want to see. For that Miss Piggy clone Joy Padgett to imply that Anderson is providing comfort to the enemy is another example of the shallowness of a Republican's brain.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 06:53 PM
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36. Despicable
These people are beneath contempt. This man was held hostage for 6 years and still has, what would you call it, integrity, strength, fortitude, guts, to confront his former captors in an effort, undoubtedly, to deal with his demons as well as understand why what happened happened. And this despicable excuse for a politician has the gall to impugn his honor and integrity. It makes me sick. :puke:
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 06:56 PM
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37. Good for HIM...."YOU GO BOY"!
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 07:18 PM
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38. My Brother-in-law was one of the journalists (AP) who questioned ...
Terry Anderson during the initial televised "press conference" upon Anderson's return.

I shake my head!!!!


:crazy:
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 07:21 PM
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39. Your post resulted in a donation. Thanks for posting the story.
Give a little, folks.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 09:37 PM
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46. Incredible.
I had no idea. This was my first LBN post. I am pledged to contribute to the DCCC. I'm not wealthy, yet, I have decided that I will increase my donation. I have been so concerned about my local congressional race that I have not kept up with other races. This story made me so angry and sad. I remember ,being in college and as a young graduate, reading about Terry and his ordeal. His release, ALIVE, was a miracle, a ray of light.
He is a true hero.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 07:27 PM
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40. ...sounds like what the Republicans did to Max Cleland
they are worthless. is this what they have to do to win because they have nothing to offer but fear and trash talk?

here's her phone number:

614/466-8076

here's her email address:

sd20@mailr.sen.state.oh.us

She owes the man an apology. She owes the state of Ohio an apology for bringing such shame to them by her low down tactics.

god, I hate Bush Republicans.
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 07:39 PM
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41. What is the difference between patriotic journalist POW's and..
those Honorable soldiers that the "right wing" has ascerted Kerry as being "unpatriotic" in the Congressional hearings of 1971 ??
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 07:42 PM
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42. Here is the Local Newspaper Article on the Event:
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 07:53 PM by happyslug
Here is the Marietta Times Article of the Event:
http://www.mariettatimes.com/news/story/1021202004_new03debate.asp

Here is an AP Article from the Zanesville (Ohio) Times-Recorder Article of the event:
http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/news/updates/9603.html
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 07:50 PM
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43. The original piece
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:28 AM
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57. Is Dan Rather running for something?
And do you vote "No" on a candidate in Ohio or do you vote for either Anderson or the Nutjob?

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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 08:05 PM
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44. Terry Anderson has more honesty, integrity and courage
in one second of his life than Joy Padgett could even contemplate having in an entire lifetime. I have closely followed Mr. Anderson’s story since I was eight or nine years old and he was a hostage in Lebanon and I have always been touched by his courage, bravery, valor, compassion and his strong sense of social justice and empathy for the downtrodden and the persecuted throughout the world. He is truly a great American and my profound admiration and respect for him just increases by the day.

And Ms Padgett has the nerve to accuse him of being "childish" by walking out of the debate. By resorting to such perverted and despicable tactics to smear a wonderful, honest and generous person, Ms Padgett is revealing a lot about who she is and why she doesn't deserve to continue in her present position.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:23 AM
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63. Fear Loves This Place
It takes an amazing amount of courage to confront someone open-handedly in these times. In Anderson's case, the courage to face just his own nerves in that situation must have been immeasurable. People, especially competitive people, who would rather sweep their shit under the rug are terrified of people like Anderson. You size yourself against them and just can't measure up, can you?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 09:47 PM
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47. I grew up in eastern Ohio and I predict that this will backfire
Ohioans value independence and truthfulness. They don't like people telling them what to do and they hate liars.

I doubt that Ms. Padgett was raised to act this way. She learned this behavior from Karl Rove and I predict that she will find out that it doesn't work in Ohio.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:06 PM
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48. Please note that Padgett was never elected to office.
She was appointed to fill a vacant seat. This puts her in an even more shameful position.

"Padgett, a former teacher, House member and director of the Governor's Office of Appalachia, was appointed to the seat earlier this year when the incumbent resigned to take a job with the governor. "
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 01:30 AM
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49. kick
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 02:02 AM
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51. She comes off looking like a jerk
I hope this backfires. Its incredibly ugly and if these kind of tactics work on people, then I have very little faith in them.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 07:07 AM
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52. I'm disgusted.
Some of these people have absolutely no shame.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:17 AM
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53. here is Padget flyer, story snip and 3 links for easy emailing
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 08:19 AM by henslee
Total B.S. this this is being ignored by mainstream.


Here is: an excerpt from the Guardian article, a link to it, a link to 2 more local articles, and a link to the flyer itself.

MARIETTA, Ohio (AP) - Former Mideast hostage Terry Anderson walked out of a debate in his state Senate campaign, angry over his opponent's use of a photo of him with an official of the Hezbollah guerrilla group. Anderson, a Democrat, faulted a brochure from Republican Sen. Joy Padgett that says he suggested shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorism that ``America's enemies have reason to hate us.''

Anderson was chief Middle East correspondent for The Associated Press when he was kidnapped in Lebanon by Iranian-sponsored terrorists in 1985. He was freed in 1991. At Wednesday's debate, Anderson declined to answer the first question, instead making a statement of protest and then walking out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4567032,00.html

http://www.mariettatimes.com/news/story/1021202004_new03debate.asp

http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/news/updates/9603.html


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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:28 AM
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56. After what they did to Max Cleland down here in Georgia ...
absolutely nothing the right wing does surprises me any more. The moral high ground is getting us nowhere. We will have to fight fire with fire ...

... and that saddens me.

-Laelth
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:47 AM
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61. "America's enemies have reason to hate us."
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 10:48 AM by Kimber Scott
No shit?

Seriously, though, is this statement really that hard to grasp? Your enemies are usually people who don't like you. When somebody doesn't like you, they usually have a reason. The way an enemy chooses to act upon that dislike is the point that is debatable, not the FACT they have reasons.

Why can't people stand back and take a look at their reasons? Ponder them. Debate them. Justify, or deny, them and then work at finding a solution that will reduce the enemy-hood in the world?

Instead, we get, "They hate us. Let's kill them."

I will never be an apologist for a terrorist, but we need to focus a lot more energy on future terrorists, if we are ever to win the "war on terror" and that means living up to the standards "justice for all." Hypocracy in U.S. foreign policy needs to be obliterated.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:15 AM
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62. Part of what's most disturbing re: current GOP mind-set.
They seem to want to boil everything down to airstrikes, troop deployments and speeches (before carefully screened audiences, of course) about how "they" hate us "for our freedoms" and of course we'd all better vote Republican or get killed.

Doesn't anyone see the history and/or the bigger picture? Why do we have to rely on one anonymous member of the CIA (the author of "Imperial Hubris") to point out that U.S. policies draw hostility in the Middle East?

Padgett sounds like another in the parade of mindless, opportunistic, short-sighted types who seem to have a lock on power in the GOP. The sooner we get beyond this type of stupidity and opportunism, the better.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:41 AM
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64. This is the same type of bullshit
that the repukes used against Max Cleland.
Their motus operendi is: if you can't get them with facts, dazzle them with bullshit.
They are the lowest form of scum on the earth.
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