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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:23 PM
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Abortion crusade turns Republican women off Bush
George Bush's crackdown on abortion has inflamed women in his own party to the point where they are openly turning against their President.

Fuelled by a fear that a Bush victory in next month's election could lead to many states overturning 30 years of legal terminations in the US, several moderate Republican women are rebelling against the crusade against sex education and unmarried women's access to contraception.

Linda Binder, a Republican State Senator in the conservative state of Arizona, is typical. Despite voting for Bush in 2000, she has pulled her support over what she calls his 'wacky, far right' position on women's rights.

'We don't want to go back to coathanger abortions... As legislators, my fellow moderates are feeling the push for more faith-based programmes on sex education and contraception coming from the Bush administration,' she said.

Binder, 56, is one of a growing number of Republican women renegades infuriated by Bush's slogan that the W in his name 'stands for women'.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1334762,00.html
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:26 PM
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1. The last phrase is the best.:
Republican women renegades infuriated by Bush's slogan that the W in his name 'stands for women'.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:30 PM
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3. w stands for WITHDRAWING
support!
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:11 PM
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8. We Don't Talk About Withdrawing
only Abstinence.

Tell me something Mr. Sex Is Only To Procreate - how come your wife only got pregnant once, hmmmmm???? Y'know, some of these pro-lifers have like a baseball team of kids & you go, "hey, at least they practice what they preach." But you, sir, well...

Never mind, I don't want to know the answer.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:23 PM
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12. Gay?
n/t
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:54 PM
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19. Speaking of the "sex is only for procreation" groupies
Why do these hypocrites keep having sex after their wives and girlfriends have gone through menopause or are rendered sterile by some other means. Or how about the holy men who are sterile and continue to have sex. Sinners...all of them, according to their own rules.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:48 AM
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28. W also stands for wimp!
n/t
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:28 PM
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2. Great news. Republican women finally discover that there is life beyond
Stepford.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:31 PM
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4. Considering just the damage he is causing amongst repukes...
He cannot be truly polling as is reported. No way.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:01 PM
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7. That's right.
No way in hell is he doing as well as Gallup wants to show him to be. He's being propped up big time. He can't afford to lose these votes.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:34 PM
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5. halliburton wants her party back!
speechless.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:44 PM
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6. Makes you wonder how many repug women will tell their husbands
what they want to believe, but will vote different... Maybe not a lot be maybe some.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:14 PM
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9. Asshole outside the Kerry rally today
had a gigantic photo of an aborted fetus covered with blood. I gave him a giant finger.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:15 PM
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10. I normally piss them off..
I ask what kind of wine they plan on serving with it...it makes them really mad that I am not taking them seriously...
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:27 PM
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14. Perfect response! n/t

New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:27 PM
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15. Perfect response! n/t

New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:35 PM
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21. That was in Las Cruces, right? I saw it too!!! And asked myself
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 11:36 PM by Gloria
what the health of the mother was who had had that late an abortion!! Naturally, it was a man with that sign!
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:39 PM
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22. Using Disgust as Discourse?
Typical of bushite, he was appealing solely to emotion.
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:11 AM
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24. love the fetus-til it's born!
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:37 AM
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37. Like George Carlin once said...
"If you're pre-born, you're fine; if you're pre-school, you're fucked!"

I abhor the cult-of-the-fetus mindset. :mad:
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:37 AM
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32. Just carry a picture of a dead Iraqi baby...
There is no difference.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:16 PM
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11. Here's a GREAT BIG DUH! directed to those GOP women
who voted for the misogynistic pig the first time around....what did they expect...to be treated as equals by the likes of Delay, Hastert, Ashcroft and Bush? hahahahaha

what fools
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:24 PM
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13. Glad some of them finally understand the Christian Taliban
n/t
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:32 PM
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16. I don't put much stock in this article...
Don't get me wrong, I would love to. But consider the source: The Guardian. And I just don't see Republican's breaking ranks. Repugs are consistently more loyal regardless of the actual character of the individual than Dems, who actually demand much more of their own candidates. I'll always remember my granddad, who voted against FDR every single election telling me he'd vote for a dead horse over a Democrat. I don't think all that much has changed.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:46 PM
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17. Please explain: consider the source: The Guardian
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:19 PM
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20. I read the Guardian Regularly, but they are very far left.
And they have done some really stupid things lately to try and prevent Shrub from winning. You may not remember but they recently listed emails on either their website or in their paper (not sure which) and assigned certain of their subscribers to write letters to people in Ohio to vote against Shrub. It really backfired. Not sure what has happened since. I think when one country tries to influence another's Democratic process this is very risky.

They have been the best source for accurate news on Iraq, and have been relentless where they should be on both Shrub and Blair - but again, got to be aware.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:42 PM
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23. In My Opinion...
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 11:43 PM by Anakin Skywalker
About the Ohio letter writing campaign, they got what they wanted out of the freepers. Ugly, vulgar Americanism. (Childish insults like mentioning the teeth of English people, etc.). It was a bait and the freeps took it! LOL
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:30 AM
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25. Yea' probably, but what does that get Kerry?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:28 AM
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30. No they're not
Sure shows how tilted to the right US media is.

The Guardian is one of the more center-balanced media around.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:47 AM
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33. Far left or right the Guardian is just as reputable as NYT or the Post!
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:38 AM
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34. I didn't say they weren't reputable but European media in general
is more biased politically than American media. You actually have mainstream papers that call themselves "socialist" or "Tory." In France you have "The Figaro" which proudly proclaims they are right wing. You have "Le Monde" which is socialist.

It's almost like what you are beginning to see happen in TV (and now radio) here in the U.S. Fox is extreme right wing, and now it seems even other cable is rightward leaning - but the marketplace does work eventually and there will be, if things don't start to balance out, an alternative for the left develop. Like how Limbaugh has dominated radio for so long and now you're getting Air America.

Actually, I don't like the trend. But it seems like exactly the path the Europeans took in media long ago.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:53 PM
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18. The Guardian is about the most reliable major media source for US news.
Too bad it is has to come from England.

And women have absolutely no logical reason to be republicans other than because their boyfriends or husbands insist on it and they are not strong enough to stand on their own two feet.

Think about it - why on earth would any woman choose to be a republican?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:39 AM
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26. I agree
All of the ones I have met lately, canvassing mostly, are voting in lock-step with their overbearing husbands.
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carols Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:40 AM
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27. Mary Lou Halliburton is endorsing Kerry per the AP
This isn't just from the Guardian.

Mary Lou Halliburton, 66, is a lifelong Republican and a relative of Earl Halliburton, who founded the company once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney and now criticized for a $7.5 billion no-bid contract to work in Iraq.

Halliburton doesn't think her late cousin would approve of the circumstances surrounding the contract. And she doesn't like how President Bush has handled the Iraq war, so she is supporting Democrat John Kerry.

http://www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/elections/index.ssf?/base/elections-0/1098398644119900.xml&storylist=orelection
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:12 AM
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29. What an awful headline.
Hey, at this point we'll take points from anywhere we can score them. Thanks for using "crusade" in a sharply appropriate way, Guardian.

But what about that next part? "Turns Republican women off"? The last time I read about womens' turn ons and turn offs it was tacked to the bathroom wall at a frat house.

It reminds me of a a Harding-Coolidge political ad I just saw today at the Museum of American History. It said, "Women: vote Republican for your own good."
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:35 AM
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31. Hell YEAH....ALL Women need to stand up against Bush for this reason
alone!
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:22 AM
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35. W is for Widowmaker
THAT would turn ME off if I was a woman...
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:36 AM
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36. Hey I'm a practicing pro-life Catholic turned-OFF on Bush
Yes, I'm pro-life but distinctly different in the way John Kerry practices his faith. I'd love abortion to become non-existent, however, not by legislation and thereby forcing people to behave in a certain manner.

In my RCIA (Catholic Conversion for adults) classes in 1996, I challenged four radical, anti-abortion activists that if they would come with me to protest USA's immoral Executions, then I would help them block abortion clinics. Well, I didn't think so ... not one took me up on the offer.

Many practicing Catholics are embarrassed by a few rogue USA Bishops. We believe that when God gave us the Ten Commandments he did NOT mean for us to put any qualifiers on "Thou shall not Kill" one.

Although I'm among many misguided parish members, I'm not going to quit my faith. Someone must try to reach these people.

I honestly believe that Jesus would not want us to legislate morality. Excuse the glib but true conclusion: one of the key reasons Jesus was Crucified was due to NO clear understanding of the "Separation of Church and State."

Like John Kerry, I do not intimidate others but only try to live in a moral manner. We all sin and should humble ourselves before we choose to judge others.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:05 AM
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39. I think that is *exactly* in the way that Sen. Kerry practices his faith.
Did you hear Sen. Kerry at the 3rd debate (I think it was the 3rd) where he spoke about his faith and choice?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:43 AM
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38. OK ...all female Repugs, you better vote for the left guy!!!!
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