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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 01:40 AM
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There has been an explosion in Baghdad,
October, 2004, 06:31 GMT

believed to be a roadside bomb. More Soon.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/default.stm


This is coming across on the BBC site. No other info yet.



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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 01:41 AM
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1. Coming from that 380 ton stockpile
No doubt.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:04 AM
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7. Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie was brought down with 1 lb of that type
of explosive. 380 tons is 380 X 2000 lbs= 760,000 flights that could be brought down.

three quarters of a million flights. millions of roadside bombs.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:08 AM
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9. Here is where explosives were taken from


I hope this story ends our nightmare!
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 05:49 AM
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17. RDX
is very user-friendly. safe, easy to detonate; perfect for assymetric warfare. our kids have been fukt again.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 01:46 AM
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2. Why does England get the news faster than we do?

Is it because we have to screen it and filter it until tomorrow morning?

This is a dictorship, pure and simple.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 01:51 AM
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4. America's whores need to think about what spin to use
nt
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 01:52 AM
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5. the BBC has reporters everywhere
the US has invested in million $$$$$ talking heads -- and entertainment -- forgoing real news.

I always check the BBC news website first -- or other UK news sources BEFORE I check US news sources.

Perhaps *ush is merely a symptom of what is wrong with the US -- air headed media, faith based media, fluff media -- useless media.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:00 AM
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6. Same here
I always check the BBC news ticker. They get everything first.

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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:25 AM
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13. You know that the US media was hi-jacked about 10 years ago...
Read this it tells you exactly how taking over the US media was planned and succeeded:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/mockingbird.html

THE MOCKINGBIRD DOCTRINE

The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA
"You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month." - CIA operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor Washington Post, on the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. "Katherine The Great," by Deborah Davis (New York: Sheridan Square Press, 1991)

As terrible as it is to live in a nation where the press in known to be controlled by the government, at least one has the advantage of knowing the bias is present, and to adjust for it. In the United States of America, we are taught from birth that our press is free from such government meddling. This is an insideous lie about the very nature of the news institution in this country. One that allows the government to lie to us while denying the very fact of the lie itself.


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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 01:48 AM
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3. Those trio of photos get me every time -- what an arrogant
SNOT -- that jerk is.

I only listened on the radio. If the TV had been on -- it would not be in the dump --after first being tossed out the window.

It is amazing that he has gotten has far as he has -- and the media is to blame -- they have hidden the "real" *ush from the public.

Those three photos are almost the essence of who *ush is.

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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:08 AM
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10. Chip off the old block, Barbara that is! n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:07 AM
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8. not to be callous or anything, but explosions in Baghdad . . .
are pretty much run-of-the-mill events these days . . . they're simply no longer news . . . kinda like Bush saying something stupid . . .
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:11 AM
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16. You can just about set your clock by them, actually.
It's like 5:00 Charlie on M*A*S*H, only people are getting killed.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:15 AM
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11. AP story here:
Oct 25, 3:08 AM EDT

Bomb Explodes Near U.S. Convoy in Baghdad

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- A bomb exploded Monday near a U.S. military convoy in central Baghdad, causing some casualties, the Iraqi Interior Ministry said.

Spokesman Col. Adnan Abdul-Rahman said the bomb was targeting the convoy when it detonated in the Karrada neighborhood, wounding some Iraqi civilians.

The U.S. military had no immediate comment and it was unknown whether there were any American casualties.

A huge cloud of smoke was seen rising over the western bank of the Tigris river. U.S. helicopters flew over the area.
(more)
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ_EXPLOSION?SITE=SCCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:31 AM
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14. Here's the BBC version
Thanks for the link to the AP story.


Baghdad bomb 'hits army convoy'

25 October, 2004, 07:05 GMT

At least two Iraqis have died and several have been injured in a bomb targeting a military convoy in Baghdad, Iraqi officials have reported.

An army vehicle was reportedly damaged in the blast, in the residential Karrada district of the city.

It is not clear whether it belonged to American forces.

The attack follows a weekend of violence, in which around 70 members of the Iraqi security forces died in suicide attacks and a mass shooting.

Monday's blast occurred several hundred metres from the Australian embassy, near a bridge over the River Tigris leading towards the Green Zone, at around 0800 (0500 GMT).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3950213.stm


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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:16 AM
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12. But..But...I thought freedom was on the march in Iraq...
Our president tells us everything is just fucking peachy.
they'll have their own security force, um, soon.
Even though it's already been fucking INFILTRATED by murderers who will set them up to be massacred!
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:35 AM
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15. I bet the Iraqis are in long lines ready to join the police dept!
Now that we know it was an inside job. Who would be so stupid as to join the Bush* blood bath.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:07 AM
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18. Located another pound of those explosives!
Looks like the Bush administration's plan was to locate the Semtex one pound at a time!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:24 AM
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19. Sadly, that news coincides with the daily rising and setting of the sun..
I'm almost surprised that there is anything LEFT to BE blown up:(
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 06:48 AM
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20. Reuters: looks like it was Aussie troops targeted.....

Unless of course this is an entirely different car bomb in Baghdad?!?...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/iraq_dc

<snip>
The Australians were hurt when a car bomb blew up near the Australian embassy in central Baghdad. The U.S. military said the blast killed three Iraqis and wounded at least six.


"This is the first time that Australian vehicles have been attacked by a direct enemy action," Australian Defense Force spokesman Brigadier Mike Hannan said in Canberra.


Reuters television footage showed three corpses covered in blankets and an Australian armored vehicle knocked off the road at the scene of the morning blast in Hurriya Square.


Australian troops in Baghdad are engaged in diplomatic protection, not security operations. Hannan said there were no diplomats traveling with the convoy when the bomb went off.

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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 07:25 AM
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21. Appears To Be The Same Story LC
BBC report mentions Australians too. This shit is getting so old.
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:05 AM
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24. Something new from Friedman NYT
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:23 AM
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31. Wow. Iraqis call U.S. soldiers "The Jews"
I suppose the similarity with the Palestinians, and their natural sympathies make the connection.

So sad, for all involved. The Likkudnicks have fucked up this country as badly as they have fucked up Israel.

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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:54 AM
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23. Baghdad embassy (Australian) to move
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11122743%255E401,00.html

The US "asked" for Ozzies at the same time they "asked" for the
Black Watch. The Ozzies said no.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 07:58 AM
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22. A bit more from Al-J....
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/EB2EE333-A713-4101-BC87-649F24C67BE8.htm


Interior ministry spokesman Colonel Adnan Abd al-Rahman said the bomb targeted the vehicles as they passed through the neighbourhoods of Karrada and Jadiriyah.

An AFP reporter at the scene saw a damaged army vehicle, with its tyres flattened by the force of the blast.



A huge cloud of smoke was seen rising over the western bank of the Tigris. US helicopters were seen flying overhead.

Last week, the Australian government announced that the embassy would be moved early next year from its current location to the heavily fortified Green Zone, which houses the US and Iraqi leadership.

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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:09 AM
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25. Ozzie ambassador target of car bomb assassination attempt Monday AM
Monday 102504 IRR

The Australian ambassador in Baghdad was the target of
an apparent assassination attempt on Monday morning
in Baghdad. The local correspondent of Mafkarat al-
Islam reported that the attack took place in the al-
Jihadiriyah area between the two-story bridge and the
road leading to the suspension bridge. A car bomb
exploded, disabling an American vehicle and killing four
US troops who were providing security. The
correspondent confirmed that American troops rushed to
the scene of the attack and cordoned it off, transporting
the casualties out after that.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:16 AM
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26. This pisses me off so much
It takes over 24 hours for the US to admit that we had 4 US TROOPS KILLED in this incident!

I am so sick and tired of the US media covering up for this misadministration and their boondoggle in Iraq.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:23 AM
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28. I bet it is many more than four dead.....
Lots of activity today in Iraq. The only way I found out was going through photos at Yahoo...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2541151&mesg_id=2541151

Thank God for these brave photographers or there would be almost zero coverage.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:17 AM
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27. The CSPAN host is actually quoting DRUDGE...
...as a source...saying that the weapons stash was already gone when troops arrived.

- Disinformation.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:31 AM
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30. On 04/05/03 AP reported that exposives were found at al Qa Qaa
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030405-chem-readiness01.htm

pril 05, 2003

<snip>

Closer to Baghdad, troops at Iraq's largest military industrial complex found nerve agent antidotes, documents describing chemical warfare and a white powder that appeared to be used for explosives.

UN weapons inspectors went repeatedly to the vast al Qa Qaa complex, most recently on March 8. But they found nothing during spot visits to some of the 1,100 buildings at the site 40 kilometres south of Baghdad.

Col. John Peabody, engineer brigade commander of the 3rd Infantry Division, said troops found thousands of five-centimetre by 12-centimetre boxes, each containing three vials of white powder, together with documents written in Arabic that dealt with how to engage in chemical warfare.

A senior U.S. official familiar with initial testing said the powder was believed to be explosives. The finding would be consistent with the plant's stated production capabilities in the field of basic raw materials for explosives and propellants.


Tell Drudge and the Corporate media to go shove it where the sun don't shine.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:27 AM
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29. Cool, there's another pound!
Looks like there's only 379.5 tons left to find!
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