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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:29 AM
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Bush: I'm Best Candidate to Protect U.S.
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 09:43 AM by w4rma
By JENNIFER LOVEN

(AP) President Bush gestures as he speaks at a campaign rally at Alamogordo High School baseball field...
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ALAMOGORDO, N.M. (AP) - President Bush is arguing he is the best candidate to keep America safe, while John Kerry's campaign says the administration must answer for the disappearance of hundreds of tons of powerful conventional explosives in Iraq that once played a part in Saddam Hussein's efforts to build a nuclear bomb.

The Bush White House should be held accountable for "what may be the most grave and catastrophic mistake in a tragic series of blunders in Iraq," Kerry senior adviser Joe Lockhart said Monday.

The International Atomic Energy Agency said approximately 350 tons of highly explosive material had disappeared, apparently stolen because of a lack of security at governmental installations.

"How did they fail to secure ... tons of known, deadly explosives despite clear warnings from the International Atomic Energy Agency to do so," Lockhart said

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20041025/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp_19

Wtf? Who writes these headlines for the AP? Check out that headline (and the photo caption) and then read the first 4 paragraphs of the story which are all about Kerry's criticism of the Bush misadministration losing (he guarded the oil fields and oil ministry, though) 380 TONS of explosives which obviously went to help equip the insurgents in Iraq and terrorists around the world.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:30 AM
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1. the headline begs the ?....what about the troops and Iraqi's?????
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:50 AM
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17. However, the headline gets the Bushie-supporters to read the article
and right at the start, the article defintely makes a lot of noise about the explosives coverup.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 10:46 AM
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18. Or they read the headline and move on, as usual.
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 10:47 AM by w4rma
And the newspaper stands have another nice pro-Bush headline on the front page for folks who don't buy one from the stand and just walk past the stand.
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:31 AM
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2. Is the missing material WMD?
If so, can we still say Saddam had no WMD?

Is this a catch 22?
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freedom_to_read Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:32 AM
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4. not WMD
"powerful conventional explosives"
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:37 AM
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7. Pardon me while I play devil's advocate...
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 09:38 AM by shpongled
News articles are now focusing on the destructive capabilities of the missing materials, and its potential to create mass destruction...

I cannot really see a difference? It is not biological, or nuclear, but still capable of creating an awful lot of problems in the hands of terrorists, right? Like the Lockerbie or USS cole examples the media keeps citing?

I think we can assume that every country in the world has explosives such as these? They are many non-weapons purposes, right? They only need to be guarded, and this is where the US is at fault?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:38 AM
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11. which it just so happens...
could be used to fire a nuclear warhead! I believe it would qualify then. :eyes:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:37 AM
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8. These were known stockpiles...............
and were guarded by The U.N. After the invasion Bush let them go unguarded. They were there, but couldn't be counted as WMDs because we knew about them and they were safely controlled, that is until Bozo Bush invaded Iraq, then I guess they weren't that important to gueard anymore. The OIL ministry, now THAT was important. These same explosives are now killing our sons and daughters.
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:38 AM
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12. Good point, thank you. (nt)
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:42 AM
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15. confused?
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 11:12 AM
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19. Thanks for the link
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:31 AM
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3. Well, Bush'll just order an invasion of Iran.
That'll teach those terr'rists.

Now, don't you feel safer?
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:33 AM
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5. Why? He didn't protect the U.S. on 9/11/2001.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:34 AM
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6. I don't think so
I doubt that anyone else would have been stupid enough to give over 3/4 million tons of high explosives to those trying to kill us. Maybe he doesn't know what "protect" means.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:38 AM
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9. No, bush, you are the clown who increased hatred towards America
AND left the barn door open so somebody could make off with over 700,000 pounds of explosives. Since we don't know who took them, we haven't got a clue as to where they are. We can assume that our troops are in more perile with all that stuff out there.

And with over 95% of the cargo containers coming into America do so without being inspected, seems very possible some of the missing
explosives might be here in the states! So we have Cheney running around saying there will be an attack here and we have explosives which your policies let disappear. Hmmmm, no, George W. you are not protecting us at all. You are a total fuck up at protecting America.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:38 AM
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10. I am surprised to see a Yahoo link.
I would have thought this to be from The Onion.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:38 AM
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13. please vote in my poll in the campaign 2004 forum
thanks
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:38 AM
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14. the only thing Bush protects
are the interests of his coporate puppet masters, IMO. :puke:
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:46 AM
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16. kick *'s ass
kick cheney's ass
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:05 PM
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20. Dude couldn't even keep 350 tons of explosives
safe, all locked up in one place.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:14 PM
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21. Could someone please cite one reason why we're safer with the pretzel,
with the f'-up in chief?

They say it over and over, but no one ever asks them to say why. All I've heard is something like, "but Kerry's a liberal." Well, assuming that being liberal is a bad thing, if all you can do is call names then double-plus bad back at ya.


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cassandracomplex Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:27 PM
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22. Al-Queda would vote for for Bush!!!!
the Al Queda linked group,Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, who bombed Madrid to change the election stated in their letter:"we desire you (Bush) to be elected."


Just in case everyone has forgotten how Al-Queda would want the election to go, please reread the following article written by the group who bombed the Madrid trains.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/040317/325/eotq9.html

So just to summarize, Al-Queda believes he is "foolish" and uses force rather than wisdom. In another part of the letter he states "Your stupidity and religious extremism is what we want as our people will not awaken from their deep sleep except when there is an enemy."

So how the hell is he the best protection for the US if the terrorists wants him to be in power?



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wrate Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:36 PM
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23. Sure! And 9/11 is irrefutable proof of this. n/t
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libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:07 PM
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26. My thoughts exactly.
He's the only "president" to not be able to stop a major attack within the U.S.
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Francine Frensky Donating Member (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 12:53 PM
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24. "candidate"???? hasn't he been pres. for FOUR YEARS??
He says he's the best candidate as if someone else had been president for four years. Is this straight out of the 2000 campaign book???

Which just makes me think....can you imagine how the repubs would have destroyed any democrat who had done the same things chimpboy has for four years??

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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:50 PM
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31. Even HE knows that Bill Clinton was the last
DULY ELECTED President of the United States.

(quoting Philly mayor John Street today)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 01:04 PM
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25. thats why you leave 380 tons ammo unwatched?????
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:09 PM
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27. * own Foreign Services worker don't feel safer
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:09 PM
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28. Bush's PROTECTION RACKET not very protective.
eom
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:10 PM
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29. You mean like he protected us on 9/11?
After the PDB stating terrorists want to strike inside the US? Bush needs a looooooooonnngg vacation. Like a permanent one.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:49 PM
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30. Yes, it just pisses me off that he keeps saying that and
people keep believing him, despite the fact that HE was the one caught with his drawers around his ankles on 9/11, after Bill Clinton avoided several attacks. I mean, if he were a security guard at Wal-Mart, and he had gotten a memo saying thieves were planning a break in, and they did it on his shift, the bastard would be FIRED.

So FIRE him already!!!!!!!!
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:02 PM
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32. Didn't he go out and "clear some brush" after reading that?
I seem to remember something like that happening.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:53 PM
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33. For a month n/t
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