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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:05 AM
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U.S. Oct. consumer confidence sinks to 92.8 vs. 96.7
http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?guid={0A91C3BC-530A-41E8-939B-4FD7FACBBE3D}&siteid=mktw

WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) - The U.S. consumer confidence index fell to 92.8 in October from a revised 96.7 in September, the third decline in a row, the Conference Board said Tuesday. It's the lowest level since March. Economists surveyed by CBS MarketWatch were expecting the index to fall to 93.4.

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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:14 AM
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1. More of the same
Every time the market catches up with economic recovery propaganda and realizes that it was a scam, the stock market drops several hundred points. This trend happens every quarter, but apparently the accounting staff has been researching Bush's handiwork to see what growth, it any, that the U.S. economy has undergone in the last 4 years. The surge in oil prices is blamed for the recent and sudden downturn. This probably has some to do with it, but the real results will come out in December, at the end of Q4. I wonder how much hollow inflation will come out then.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:22 AM
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4. Welcome to DU UL_Approved!
Glad to have you here!

:hi:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:15 AM
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2. Put that in your "Fair model" and smoke it, Ray
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:20 AM
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3. Have we
turned the corner yet?
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:24 AM
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5. This consumer's confidence.......
won't return until President John F. Kerry is safely ensconced in our White House!
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:45 AM
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6. And what CBS didn't say...
but the CNN story did:

The decline is a potentially troubling sign for President Bush, seeking re-election next week.
Since the 1968 election, a Conference Board index reading below 100 generally indicates a loss for the incumbent's party.


http://money.cnn.com/2004/10/26/news/economy/confidence/index.htm?cnn=yes

Not every voter's mind is on terror, apparently.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:16 AM
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7. This is bad for the incumbent - no doubt!
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:48 AM
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8. it's bad for us period
There are so many leading economic indicators that spell big trouble ahead.

If Kerry gets in, he gets handed a huge multi-dimensional mess...

it's like having a house and some sort of hurricane called * and Co.
have gone through and Kerry will have to clean it up.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:06 PM
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10. They said the same of Bush sr
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:27 PM
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13. That's a great pic!
Those faces are priceless. Don't really need to see Kerry's face full-shot, it's reflected in the kids. Great pic for a tag line.

Cheers--
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:56 AM
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9. Why is the market so high after this news? Bu$h sugar daddies out
before the election?
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:22 PM
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11. For those not into markets: today is called a Dead Cat Bounce
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 12:23 PM by DuaneBidoux
The market is down big time in the past 4 weeks. It never goes straight down. There may also be some desperation buying by big money that wants to get the market up before Tuesday.

The consumer confidence numbers certainly could explain Shrubs weakening position in the polls. I think a lot of it is directly related to what has been happening at the gas pumps in the last several weeks. It's turning into a perfect storm.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:26 PM
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12. Thanks! n/t
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 07:22 PM
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15. Funny, I was going to say Dead Cat Bounce.
Yes it will turn into a Perfect Storm, just a matter of when. But I think the storm is a lot bigger than oil, though oil in the end will be key.

It is debt, both personal and national. When the deficit spending comes to an end and interest rates go up, the C+I+G = GNP is done for.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:30 PM
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14. The gods have gone crazy
Oil sky high, consumer confidence down, dollar weakening, in debt over our heads and the DOW and S&P are making things look honkey dorey cause some one-percenters are bargain hunting.

I guess as long as everything looks ok, it must be ok. Yeah, that's the ticket. Ugh.

(A special howdy to you UIA! :hi: )

Julie
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:01 PM
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16. Buying on a dip...
thats all folks.
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