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Tue Sep-02-03 09:07 AM
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John Kerry announcing his presidential bid on C-span right now |
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:08 AM
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I saw him on Cheers once I think...
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:10 AM
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:21 AM
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It's "all military all the time" with this speech so far. Must be a way to defend against Clark and Dean at the same time.
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:28 AM
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4. Did John Serve in Vietnam? |
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Does anyone here under 45 give a flying F?
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:33 AM
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5. Yes he did and he's been decorated for his service |
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-03 09:34 AM by WindRavenX
And yes, people SHOULD care he's served;John Kerry isn't an AWOL Chickenhawk like the current squatter in the White House. I am happy to support Kerry.
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:34 AM
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Military service or not needs to be a non-issue.
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Tue Sep-02-03 10:10 AM
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17. Military service will be a "non-issue" when ... |
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... all citizens equally share a national service obligation. Laying that burden almost solely on the socioeconomically disadvantaged is predation of the worst kind, particularly when the benefits increasingly accrue to the wealthiest and most powerful.
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Tue Sep-02-03 11:40 AM
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21. It should be a non-issue |
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But Smirk will run as the Stong Leader Who Protects Us Against The Heathen Terrorists, so contrasting someone who actually put his life on the line with a swaggering fake like * who avoided meaningful service might help in bursting the post-9/11 rally-around-the-flag bubble that is the only thing * has going for him.
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:46 AM
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8. Sure, and he's not even my first choice! |
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We should care because of the behavior, at that time, of the unelected Moron occupying the Oval Office today. And because of that moron's behavior at THIS time, too! x(
The case is going to be laid out to him in debates, however, that voting for pre-emptive, unilateral war was the wrong call, even though removing Saddam from power was the right thing to do. Oh, well, at least Kerry has disagreed with Joe "Brutus" Lieberman that "Iraq is better off today". Iraq SHOULD be better off today, but the fact that it is not, by any means, shows why this war, its aftermath, and the ones who formulated it and rattled sabres for it all last fall have let us down. I hope that John Kerry can get this message across; he DOES have some leverage--in his past service--to do that.
B-)
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:34 AM
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Here's a guy who was a war hero and came back from VietNam to protest the war. He supported the resolution to give the chimp leeway to start a war in Iraq and now critcizes it?
Some kind of pattern here?
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:47 AM
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9. Now that I have watched it for about 10 minutes or so |
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Edited on Tue Sep-02-03 09:47 AM by Northwind
I have to say, if I wanted to see Dean's stump speech this morning I would go to DeanTV and download it. Very disappointing that Kerry cannot come up with his own lines.
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:53 AM
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11. What lines did he lift? Thanks |
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Tue Sep-02-03 10:00 AM
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13. Northwind caught it too! |
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Kerry even tried to close his speech like Dean's, "We have the Power" tone......
I watched it out of respect to fellow Kerry supporters here at DU. I was rather miffed at the plagiarism. I had no intention of criticism when electing to listen to his speech......Just got to speak up....
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Tue Sep-02-03 10:08 AM
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16. I'm not sure Dean thought up "we have the power" or its variants. |
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Politicians have know for a long time we like to hear that sort of thing.
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:53 AM
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10. He taking his stand on issues such as healthcare right |
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out of Howard Deans playbook. He too wants Americans to have the same healthcare as Congressmen and Senators.
Do you think he can sell it?
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Tue Sep-02-03 10:24 AM
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18. That's good! It means that Dems are getting on the same page! (n/t) |
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Tue Sep-02-03 09:54 AM
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As expected, the second that Kerry started to criticize the chimp by name, CNN cut away from the speech. Can't have the American people hear anything nasty about our fuehrer.
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Tue Sep-02-03 10:06 AM
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15. Better for Candy Crowley and Bill Schneider to tell you later on what |
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he said so that the appropriate cautions and criticisms can be added. Direct exposure to information is always a potentially dangerous thing.
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Tue Sep-02-03 10:39 AM
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Just reading the name "Candy Crowley" makes my blood boil. I still haven't forgotten or forgiven her knee-pads coverage of the chimp in 2000. She's a hideous example of everything that's wrong the our corporate-owned-conflict-of-interest media.
And you're right - CNN will spin this against Kerry without giving the public the benefit of hearing what he actually said.
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Tue Sep-02-03 10:02 AM
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14. kerry's saying all the right things |
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Tue Sep-02-03 11:07 AM
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20. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! ZZZSNort! |
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wake me when it's over...
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Tue Sep-02-03 12:24 PM
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22. Excellent speech, as expected... but |
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why did he box himself in with the specific promise to create 3 million jobs in his first 5oo days?
I would expect the media to jump all over that and call him on it.
Maybe he has a plan - I hope so. But if he doesn't, that will be a "read my lips" moment.
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