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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:08 PM
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Boston Globe: "Explosives were looted after Iraq invasion"
By Farah Stockman, Globe Staff  |  October 26, 2004

WASHINGTON -- Iraqi officials reported that thieves looted 377 tons of powerful explosives from an unguarded site after the US-led invasion last year, the top UN nuclear official said yesterday. And a former weapons inspector said he had counted about 100 other unguarded weapons sites that may have been stripped of munitions for use in the wave of attacks against US soldiers and Iraqi civilians.
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''This is not just any old warehouse in Iraq that happened to have explosives in it; this was a leading location for developing nuclear weapons before the first Gulf War," said Gary Milhollin, director of the Wisconsin Project, a nonprofit organization that has followed Iraq's attempts to procure weapons of mass destruction for more than a decade. ''The fact that it had been left unsecured is very, very discouraging. It would be like invading the US in to order to get rid of and not securing Los Alamos or Livermore ."
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''The military did not view guarding these sites as their responsibility," David Kay said, recalling that he witnessed US troops guarding the gates of the Tuwaitha nuclear facility while Iraq civilians carried away radioactive pipes and metal drums through other exits.

''There just were not enough troops to guard the number of sites. It was just crazy."

At the time, there was no major insurgency and US military officials felt the war had been won, Kay said, so the Department of Defense did not fear that the weapons that disappeared in widespread looting would be used against US soldiers.


http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/10/26/explosives_were_looted_after_iraq_invasion?mode=PF
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So even if the bush admin was right about the war being over and our troops not endangered by these weapons, how did they think these weapons would be used?
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:10 PM
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1. Maybe the Scrubbies thought the explosives were going to be
used for peaceful means...

:eyes:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:12 PM
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2. so there was no plan to secure these site, cuz * thought we WON
what an ass...David Kay has turned out to be an asset to the Kerry campaign
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:38 PM
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3. Well, I'm just shocked
I tell ya.
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:02 PM
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7. Is that the sound of sarcasm?
I know I am shocked by few things anyway, but I expect the worst from this administration as a matter of course. Short of declaring war on Europe or invading Canada, I am not sure this administration could shock me.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:39 PM
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4. Mission Accomplished?
That phrase should always be accompanied with a question mark now, if it wasn't before...

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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:41 PM
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5. Mission Accomplished!
Taking direction from their Commander-in-Chief. This incompetent fool was awol 30 years ago and was awol for the last 4 years.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 10:48 PM
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6. Oh, my! This is the exact opposite -- THE EXACT OPPOSITE -- of what the
Administration is saying!

And the problem was there were too few troops! Which was the Adminsitration's decision, contrary to professional military advice!

Oh, my.
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:06 PM
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8. Yay! I'm glad this story came out...
It will keep the story going into tomorrow's news cycle! And that is SO good for us.

New Meme/Talking Point: al QaQaa was just a single example of a much larger, ongoing problem that was directly related to the fact that we had too few troops in Iraq. And the results are catastrophic.

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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:14 PM
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10. Check out this report from Salon.com. It's going to get a lot worse.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:12 PM
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9. "how did they think these weapons would be used?" Silly you
4th of July celebrations.

Don

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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:15 PM
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11. Neocons were so delusional, they might actually have thought that.
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:24 PM
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12. "how did they think these weapons would be used?"
The completely utterly cynical answer:

Well, you can't have a war on terror without terrorists, can ya?

Ok, that may be too much even for me. Nonetheless, George "WTF?!?" Bu**sh** has supplied terrorists with weapons for YEARS to come with this incompetence.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:29 PM
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13. I'm afraid some of this stuff is already here!
As Bushistas turned the other way, THIS STUFF got LOOTED? WTF?

I won't wager but fear that these explosives have found their way to the US. And we might not have an October Surprise, but a surprise nonetheless. And probably enough damage to eclipse 9/11!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 02:54 AM
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14. kick
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:24 AM
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15. Maybe the Iraq
people were going to do their OWN home redecorating, without those pesky missles coming in their windows.

This should be impeachable.

I predict that BUSH will give himself a PARDON on the way out, the first self pardon by a "president" in the History of the US..
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:30 AM
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16. wow they really are that stupid
every day i wake up i can say that
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 07:20 AM
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17. Proves Bush Admin was not concerned about weapons/war on terrorism
Seems crystal clear to me that this war was not conducted as part of war on terrorism or to find and secure weapons and WMD's that could be used against innocent people. If it had been a legitimate operation, a top military priority would have been to take measures to prevent proliferation of weapons and ammo.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:09 AM
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18. kick for those who missed it. David Kay hangs the bush admin.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:12 AM
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19. dupe....
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:12 AM
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20. I wonder who will take the heat on this?
Couldn't possibly be Bush because he didn't know anything about it. You can't expect him to know everything.....he's too busy!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:14 AM
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21. They never did care about WMDs,...they just wanted a quick profit. n/t
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:16 AM
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22. Fire Rummy

NOW!!!

:grr:
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:23 AM
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23. Duplicate topic--Please continue discussion here:
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