Europe's biggest newspaper endorses Bush

[zzapatista]

BERLIN, Oct 27 (AFP) - Europe's top-selling newspaper, Germany's tabloid daily Bild, endorsed George W. Bush for US president Wednesday, saying he would do a better job fighting terror and not ask Berlin to send troops to Iraq.

Bild, in what a spokesman said was likely the first US election endorsement in its 51-year history, said Bush was a known quantity in Europe and had a better sense than Democratic challenger John Kerry of what Washington could expect from its transatlantic partners.

"Bush knows that Europe and Germany do not have the military capacity for a significantly larger commitment of troops beyond their current deployments abroad," Bild journalist Hugo Mueller-Vogg said in the editorial.

"Thus he will not request a contribution. But Kerry would do just that -- and add a further burden to the already damaged German-American relationship." Mueller-Vogg, a former publisher of the respected Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, wrote.

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http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read.html?id=1629

Sounds like a devil you know argument to me

[JuniorPlankton]

1. that's the one!

[Voice_of_Europe]

56. The ONLY one... They love to provocate

This is the only ONE paper ever to endorse Bush in Europe!

BILD (also dubbed: The magazin with the big letters and pictures)
has a history of provocating and there is no bigger provocation in Europe than to endorse Bush at the moment.

Just dismiss it.
It has no real meaning.

[JuniorPlankton]

66. I know it has no meaning

I'll dismiss it happily!
:)

[Was_Immer]

2. WTF now foreign papers are endorsing?

Does anyone know who the Martian Times endorsed. My vote is riding on that endorsement, who ever the martians say I should vote for, I will

[dansolo]

3. "already damaged German-American relationship"

It wasn't damaged before Bush showed up.

[cubsfan forever]

4. "Tabloid " says it all

Professor 2

[AIJ Alom]

5. Shiek Heil ! For the Furor ! Furious George !

Seriously though. One international paper for Bush ? And that's because he doesn't want German troops ! LOL !

[prayin4rain]

33. LOL-Furious George, I've never seen that before. The furious little monkey

[w4rma]

6. Biggest. Clear Channel is the biggest. Sinclair is the biggest. (nt)

[rkc3]

7. Fortunately, most murricans don't give a rat's ass what them...

foriners think.

Actually, this might not be good for bush. His supporters don't want to hear that Germany or France supports bush and his efforts. This might cause some misgivings about their vote (assuming they read, of course).

[global1]

8. And This Is "Old Europe"

arrrrgh!!!!

[Sequoia]

9. Well, considering his grandpa was a Nazi supporter....

Berlin...the dots are connected.

[fshrink]

10. "Top-selling"

Which means palatable shit pre-digested for imbeciles, of which there are a bunch in Europe as well.

[Benhurst]

11. Looks like the Bush Crime Family's old Nazi connections

are paying off. The Leader should take comfort in this latest manifestation of honor among thieves.

[central scrutinizer]

12. Bild means picture in English

maybe its "readers" only look at pictures.

[StClone]

13. Why is this bad?

It sort of tongue in cheek with a side poke at all his supporters that hate Germany.

[onehandle]

14. This should give the freeps a pause.

Too bad it's not a French paper.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

15. When I lived in Munich

this newspaper was tabloid all the way. Not only in its format but also content.

[Eurobabe]

16. Bild = birdcage liner

that's NOT Europe.

[devilgrrl]

17. When you said "Europe's biggest," Berlusconi immediately...

came to mind. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if one of his shit rags or crap news outlets endorses *.

[quo]

18. Ha Ha, now there's an endorsement bush* won't be proud of

I read this as:

Germany wants bush* because they've already told him no to
joining his quagmire.

And they're afraid Kerry will ask them to pitch in to fix bush*s
went-it-alone mess.

And they don't want to keep saying no to american requests.

So they want america to keep bush* and let america keep the mess that bush* made!

[one_true_leroy]

19. if World Weekly News follows suit, i'll worry then n/t

[PROGRESSIVE1]

20. "Das Bild" was Hitler's favoritve Paper!!!

:eyes:

[Kellanved]

21. a Tabloid

Like the New York Post. Or rather the British Sun,. as there are naked girls.

Owned by Springer, who, the little difference aside that he's dead, is the German Murdoch. This is widely considered a test balloon to check how people would react, should Bild endorse the conservative candidate in the next domestic elections.

The author of the endorsement is a former publisher of a "proper" newspaper, the extremely conservative FAZ, fallen from grace (his views were too stupid even for the local editions he supervisedduring his time).
He is a right-wing idiot, with arguments so stupid that I won't even bother to take them apart here (go Christian Crusaders sums it up nicely).

[ibegurpard]

22. Does Rupert Murdoch own this paper?

eom

[Redwraith]

24. Axel Springer

does and he is like the Mini Murdoch of Germany.

"Bild" is a pure tabloid ... i think the print edition has just 8 pages and if you take all the text you could cover maybe half a page.

I had a look at the 19 arguments for bush and one was worse then the other.

Just bullshit ...

[shelley806]

23. But the World Backs Kerry, according to a recent newspaper vote:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/viewsofamerica/story/0,15221,1327971,00.html

Global view
The world backs Kerry

Leader
Friday October 15, 2004
The Guardian
<snip>
Millions of Americans are scratching their heads over how to vote on November 2 after the last of the three televised presidential debates left George Bush and John Kerry neck and neck over jobs, education, health care and taxes, with little mention of Iraq or 9/11. But the rest of the world, according to a poll we and several other newspapers publish today, has already made up its mind, backing the Democratic challenger by a margin of two to one.

Any sample, of course, is just a sample, but this survey of public opinion in 10 countries does include the US's two immediate neighbours, Canada and Mexico, as well as Israel and Russia, Washington's close allies in the "war on terror", and Britain, still its most loyal transatlantic friend, despite widespread criticism of Tony Blair. Unfortunately, Muslim countries are absent, though their inclusion would have made even gloomier reading for the White House. A recent Pew Research Centre poll, for example, showed just 7% of Pakistanis approve of Mr Bush, while 65% have a favourable opinion of Osama bin Laden.

These findings - likely to achieve a high degree of exposure because they are media-driven - confirm previous polls in underlining the degree of global hostility to President Bush and the Iraq war.




SO, TAKE CHEER!!!!! THE WORLD KNOWS WHAT THIS BUSH ADMINISTRATION IS ALL ABOUT. THEY GET BETTER MEDIA COVERAGE OF WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN IRAQ.

[Redwraith]

27. Europes Vote would be

Kerry 70% Bush 25% 5% undecided .. due to a poll i read in an Austria magazine last week.

The only states that he would win would be Poland and Russia.

[carolinalady]

25. They want in George's good graces..

so they can acces the "official GW website" lol.

[It was not a pretzel]

26. You know the UK 's "The Sun"?

Well Bild makes it look like Shakespear.

It really is the WORST rag to ever be published.

There seem to be a lot more people looking at it too it recently. Germany's going to goign downhill pretty damned fast and "Bild" helps fuel the anger against the present joke of a government.

[Kellanved]

40. you gotta be kidding

I don't mean your assessment of Bild, but your opinion of the Schröder Government seems to be taken directly from it (Kohl, now that was a joke).

As to Germany being world champion in pessimism: nothing new there.

[It was not a pretzel]

49. You think things are OK here?

5 million unemployed and rising? Hartz IV? Software patents? Offshoring? 1 Euro jobs? No minimum wage?

[Kellanved]

54. Whre is it OK?

The unemployment is pretty much identical all over the industrialized world, as if offshoring. The particular problem in Germany is the botched reunification; especially the monetary union. As a result the Euro is about 20% too expensive in Germany. No cut in social programs will bridge that gap.

Hartz IV - I don't see what is wrong there. It is not as it is the end of the wellfare state (although the press made it sound that way for a while).


That certain countries are OK with about 3% of the adult population in jail leads to "nicer" numbers, but not to a nicer reality.

[Turley]

59. Who's kidding here?

Schroeder is the lowest rated German Chancellor ever. Nobody even comes close.

You may have missed out on the fact that people are demonstrating in the streets against Hartz IV.

Also, the Dosenpfand laws seem to have been put together by a bunch of drunken monkeys. Wait a minute, that would actually be insulting to drunken monkeys.

[Kellanved]

61. I guess we all three are

I couldn't agree more on the Dosenpfand law. Little surprise as it was written and enacted by the Kohl Government.

I haven't seen many demonstrations against Hartz lately, the SPD is doing quite well in the polls and Schroeder is rated pretty high.


http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/img/16/0,1886,2398832,00.gif
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Edited for wording; Poll results added

[wrate]

28. This is unconscionable. n/t

[GinaMaria]

29. So they are endorsing * b/c they don't endorse the war?

Because * can't build a coalition, Germany doesn't have to worry about sending troops to the * war that they don't support.

Anyone else feel like they've slipped down the rabbit hole? I'm afraid I'll be invited to tea with the queen next :crazy:

[Generator]

30. That's it!

No more frankenfurters, hamburgers for me!

Hold the German potato cakes....they are now Kerry cakes.

[MallRat]

31. Shouldn't real 'Muricans vote for Kerry now, out of spite?

We don't like being told what to do by them kraut-eating, lederhosen-wearing Germans, right?

A vote for Bush is a vote against American sovereignty!!!

:eyes:

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

32. Too bad it wasn't a French paper! LOL!

I am rather enjoying the fact that the bushies aren't in any big hurry to endorse all these strange, backhanded "endorsements" (Iran springs to mind! ROFL!).

[Endangered Specie]

34. German paper, endorsing dictator... anyone see some glaring Irony there?

[pandorasox]

35. Joining the Chicago Tribune in the Clueless Editor Hall of Infamy

:eyes:

[JusticeForAll]

36. The Daily BILGE??? I love it!

As per M-W dictionary

BILGE
3 : stale or worthless remarks or ideas

[malatesta1137]

37. they also endorsed Hitler

no surprise there.

[Redwraith]

38. Sorry but

Bild wasnt around 33 - 45

Bild was founded in 1952.

[nolabels]

42. How about, were you?

The bigger and better with the new and improved corporate jingo, cha cha cha..............I know that tune

http://www.miniclip.com/bushaerobics.htm

[malatesta1137]

46. who cares?

who do you think they would've endorsed if they WERE around during 33-45?

[Redwraith]

60. Not Hitler

the old Springer was too anti NAZI, to do that and he got repeatatly into problems with them during the war.

I d say they would have endorsed some right wing christian party, which the national soucialists never were, and i mean the christian.

If you want to look at a newspaper that endorsed Hitler, try "Der Stürmer" (The Stormer), i dont know if there are examples of what they wrote in english but its 100 times more right wing/anti everything but us then Bild will ever be.

[malatesta1137]

62. honestly

you are just guessing here, and I don't see any difference between endorsing Bush and endorsing Hitler.

[Kellanved]

39. oh, come on

The Bild is a right-wing rag , but it is a post-war right-wing rag.


As much as I hate doing it, but I have to defend Springer: they have a long anti-Nazi tradition.

You know, the Nazi jokes are getting lame. ;-)

[malatesta1137]

44. I was not joking

so it's your post that is lame.

[Redwraith]

45. Then

you are not joking, but you are still wrong.

[malatesta1137]

63. no, you are wrong

how can they have an anti-Nazi tradition and endorse Bush? give me a F*CKING BREAK!!

[Kellanved]

47. I bow to your superior logic

It outshines your sense of humor and history.

[malatesta1137]

65. Thank you

for recognizing that I am right. I know history enough to know that Bush is way more dangerous than Hitler ever dreamed of becoming.

[JP Belgium]

41. Bild is Fox on paper

I hope all right wing morans take a look at who's endorsing their fuhrer:

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/index.html

[coreystone]

43. Has anyone found anything interesting from "der Spiegle" ??

:think:

[progressivebydesign]

48. Bad Idea! European CITIZENS despise BUSH!!!

That is not a place to be making endorsements of Bush... I have a feeling it's causing an INCREDIBLE stir and backlash against that paper. The guys' a major right winger, from what I've heard... and it's akin to Fox News.

[dummy-du1]

50. Original link to BILD article

Here's the original link to Mueller-Vogg's article:

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/2004/10/27/us__wahl__pro__bush/us__wahlkampf__empfehlung__pro__bush.html>

His arguments seem to be contradictory in places, and one could come to the conclusion that he's kidding or just tries to be satiric. But I doubt it: before writers are employed by the Axel Springer Verlag they have to sign a statement that they will never write anything too negative about our transatlantic friends or about the state of Israel. So, I guess he just tries very hard to fulfill his obligation and that's of course quite difficult.

BTW, I liked argument #3 best, roughly translated it says:

"Under Bush the USA will continue to bear the major burden in the war against terror - military, financial and also in regard to the blood toll."

Could be directly stolen from my imagined "Antiamericans for Bush" Website...

[funnymanpants]

51. Stupid headline means nothing

The Bild is a tabloid. It is misleading to say Germany's biggest newspaper.

Eurpoeans, and especially Germans, despise Bush.

[strizi64]

52. LOL, "BILD" is widely known

as pure BS, absolutly low quality journalism and one of the most hated newspapers over here. If BILD endorses Bush, then see it as a positive sign. Wake me up if "Die Welt", NZZ, Le Monde or the FAZ do the same :)... But they won't ;).

[Easy]

58. I agree regarding the FAZ, Le Monde and the NZZ,

but you do know that Die Welt is also owned by Springer, don't you? ;)

[strizi64]

68. Yes,

I know :)... Springer always plays both sides and Bild is the low end all the time. "Die Welt" still has a poll running: http://www.welt.de/extra/service/128201.html?poll_qid=352219 . Kerry 63.4%, Shrub 25.x%, Nader 6%, not DUed or Freeped ;):)

[Matilda]

53. I guess it just goes to prove there are stupid Germans as well.

n/t

[0rganism]

55. Scream it from the rooftops: "European Elitists Endorse Bush!"

If only a French magazine would endorse him, too! Oh, it would be sweet poetic justice.

"Bush's biggest supporters? Iran, Germany and France!"

I would savor the moment.

[BonjourUSA]

57. Who can show me this French magazine ?

Perhaps an ultra-right paper ?

[cpeterka]

64. Bush has poisoned the Family Tree

When this is all over, and John Kerry is President, the Rats and Snakes will turn on Bush the Second, and he won't have a single friend left.

The REAL Republicans will shun him,
his 'Friends' ( who we all know are scum) will quickly abandon him,
take the safe route and turn on him,
and the World will tell him to go to that private hell of history.

The Good News... the 'Smart Bush', Jeb will NEVER have a chance
of running for President. When the news gets out about how screwed up
everything is because of Bush II, we will never elect any Bush again.

George has pissed on all the aspirations of all the future Bushes, and his father will also have his image tarnished beyond repair.

George W Bush destroyed America, and destroyed his family.

[rman]

67. The majority of Europeans don't endorse Bush.

Bild does not represent the views of the majority of Germans, let alone the views of the majority of Europeans. Who cares what some right-wing newspaper thinks? This just shows that many of the mainstream media do not represent the opinions of the people, no matter how big these media are.

[skypilot]

69. So, basically...

...they are saying: We will endorse Bush because we won't have to help him in Iraq.

OK, thanks.