Armed Group Claims to Have Iraq Explosives

[TheWebHead]

The Associated Press:

BAGHDAD, Iraq - An armed group claimed in a video Thursday to have obtained a large amount of explosives missing from a munitions depot facility in Iraq (news - web sites) and threatened to use them against foreign troops.

A group calling itself Al-Islam's Army Brigades, Al-Karar Brigade, said it had coordinated with officers and soldiers of "the American intelligence" to obtain a "huge amount of the explosives that were in the al-Qaqaa facility."


The claim couldn't be independently verified. The speaker was surrounded by masked, armed men standing in front of a black banner with the group's name on it in the tape obtained by Associated Press Television News.


"We promise God and the Iraqi people that we will use it against the occupation forces and those who cooperate with them in the event of these forces threatening any Iraqi city," the man added.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041028/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_explosives_claim_3

[Fridays Child]

1. 5!

[truthisfreedom]

2. rated it 5.

[mcerise]

3. I don't understand this part...

What do they mean they "had coordinated with officers and soldiers of 'the American intelligence'"?

[AnnitaR]

5. They paid someone big bucks to hand this over to them.

At least that's how I see it. Either CIA or these former SEAL contractors over there.

[cthrumatrix]

9. all that counts now is these are being used against our forces

this really sucks... and NOBODY is taking responsibility.

Like Dumsfeld..."shit happens"..."democracy is messy"... WTF is this.

[KittyWampus]

30. Yup! My First Instinct Was These Things Went On Black Market

NO WAY! The Greedy Bastard (Cheney) would allow all that highly marketable and expensive material to just disappear.

Rememeber, Iran/Contra & Haliburton doing business with states who sponsor terrorists.

Cheney and the rest of the Neo-Cons have no scruples when it comes to selling or trading arms to terrorists.

[jokerman93]

24. This might suggest something unthinkable

That a plan for a protracted and ever-expanding war (on "terror") can be provoked by invasion, and sustained by arming the enemy.

Great way to guarentee your never-ending war profits and establishing a mentality of seige among the American populous.

[Beam Me Up]

31. That's my take on it, with a thermonuclear bent.

They want a tactical nuclear war in the Middle East and they need an 'event' to justify it.

[olddad56]

57. Seriously, that makes perfect sense to me.

[Carni]

27. I'm thinking an Iran contra type intrigue

Isn't it funny that this type of research was kerry's forte'in the 80's. I wonder if his camp knows something that we don't know yet?

I swear to God I almost posted earlier "could the US have sold the explosives to fund something covert"...but I didn't because I thought I would sound like an idiot!

[RebelYell]

50. CIA M.O.

You're not an idiot, you're observant.

[AnnitaR]

4. Holy shit you know Shrub ain't going to like this one!

I'm so enjoying watching them spin this one way and then another and then another! It's been fun!

You can tell this whole thing caught them totally off guard.

[JohnnyCougar]

6. As bad as this is for shrub

this isn't a joyous occasion. I really hope our troops are okay.


FUCKING BUSH!!!!!

[cubsfan forever]

42. I completely agree with you

What a bunch of traitorous cowards! The care NOTHING for our troops, just about photo-ops. DESPICABLE I pray for our troops safety.

Professor 2

[chimpy the poopthrower]

44. Um. To whom are you referring?

The terrorists are not traitors. They were never on our side to begin with.

[cubsfan forever]

51. Did you even read my post?

It is a response to #6 who said that as much as this is bad news for *, it is the troops for whom we should be concern. I said NOTHING about terrorists. I suggest you read the post again, and also the one to whom it was addressed before you respond.

Professor 2

[chimpy the poopthrower]

52. I read your post and knew it was a reply to #6. I just didn't understand.

That's why I asked whom you were referring to. You said, "What a bunch of traitorous cowards! The care NOTHING for our troops, just about photo-ops." Perhaps in the first sentence you were speaking about the "officers and soldiers of 'the American intelligence'" that this group referred to? And in the second sentence you were talking about the Bush administration? That's what confused me. I wasn't sure if by "photo-op" you meant this announcement by the terrorist group. I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything, I just wanted you to clarify.

[cubsfan forever]

54. Thank you!

Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I meant to be. I appreciate your reply. Take care.

Professor 2

[Wat_Tyler]

45. The people I'm most worried about are the Black Watch, the Scots Regt

who were just sent into that general area to relieve US troops for Fallujah.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. Wow

I wouldn't want to be near Shrubbie when he gets up in the morning!

[Sideways]

8. I Posted This Yesterday And Looks Like I Was Right

David Bloom Was The Embedded Journalist W/3rd He Died April 6


Of a pulmonary embolism. This connection is bugging me......A LOT! What did he see? Were the troops ordered to "take" the explosives? It would explain why they were "missing" just days later.

I think the military knows exactly where those explosives went. I'll stop there.....just follow the money...and put your cynic/tinfoil hat on.

[Robeson]

12. Just follow the money...

...shouldn't that be the Republican Party Anthem?

[maddezmom]

16. thanks for pointing that out

:(

[Carni]

28. Self deleted (posted twice by accident)

NT

[Carni]

29. Glad to see I am not the only one that thought of this!

David Bloom was also the one to ask Bush if he ever did cocaine --
I mean he pinned him down about it.

The bit about the cocaine question is referenced in "Fortunate Son" by the now deceased Jim Hatfield.

[Sideways]

34. The 3rd Division Was At Al Qaqaa April 5th

There were reports now coming to light again on CNN International that the 3rd did see these explosives. Bloom died the next day. What did he see? And why is the information about the 3rd obfuscated by the telling and retelling that troops who got there on April 10th found nothing.

The 3rd was there and I submit the weapons were taken by the troops and somehow it now sounds like they are in the hands of terrorists.

Read my original post written yesterday in a different thread and IMHO I was right. Follow the money....who stood to gain....it does not look good for Chimpy...it looks like treason to me...

[AndrewJacksonFaction]

37. Was Hatfield the anthrax guy? N/T

[Carni]

41. No, he was the author of the first bush expose before 2000 election

Long story but...The book was originally burned and Hatfield alleged that Bush was busted for cocaine use in the early 70's (he was the first source of the AWOL stuff)

In any case Hatfield committed suicide (I think shortly after bush took office/not sure)

[ECH1969]

10. This is great

The CIA was working with the terrorists and gave them the weapons, it is over for Bush, he is done.

[AntiFascist]

13. This begs the question....

whether various agents may have been paid off prior to 9/11.

[maddezmom]

18. or were the agents really russian parading as US agents??

:crazy:

[chimpy the poopthrower]

38. I assume you're being sarcastic...?

...when you say "this is great"?

[sonicx]

11. but but...I thought russia had em!

[annabanana]

14. this needs careful exploration.......CBS has already mentioned

the "American Military Intelligence" connection.
How did AP get this info? We need more sources.

[acmavm]

15. 5:45 a.m. CST

You have given the news article Armed Group Claims to Have Iraq Explosives a rating of 5.
Its current average rating is 4.48 with 69 vote(s).

[maddezmom]

17. Its current average rating is 4.52 with 93 vote(s).

[symbolman]

19. Bush Co and the Media are always taking the word

of these guys when there is a beheading, same situation, same masks, rebok tennis shoes..

what are they going to all the boogieman next, Ala Kazowi? Ala Kaboom?

What now, grand and glorious leader?

Bush is toast.

[are_we_united_yet]

20. Karl Rove's spin:

"Al-Islam's Army Brigades, Al-Karar Brigade" have converted themselves into Russians.

[Mistahkleeen]

21. Clinton's fault

Nothing is ever President Fredo's fault. So Clinton must be the one to blame.

[saigon68]

47. IT'S CLINTON'S PENIS

[nolabels]

48. The Clenis always does lots of damage

http://yorick.infinitejest.org:81/1/cards.html

[olddad56]

59. It is like Bill has his own little WMD.

[Bonhomme Richard]

22. The story made our local tv station.

I couldn't believe it. Maybe, just maybe the sheep are waking up.

[lakeguy]

23. 5!

[rocktivity]

25. It doesn't matter WHO took them

it matters that there were there at the time of the invasion, and it was the coalition's responsibility to secure them!

:headbang:
rocknation

[bpilgrim]

26. it matters if OUR CIA officers helped

does anyone have any more on this angle? :wtf:

peace

[Tight_rope]

60. What are the connections to the Plame case....What date was she outted!

[Don Keyhotay]

33. Terrorists sure are tuned in.

Kind of amazing how they are completely up to date on our election issues. And isn't it a relief to finally get the truth from these completely believable guys? After all, they have no ajenda, unlike the neocons. We knew it already, though.

[chimpy the poopthrower]

40. So what are you saying? (nt)

[Beam Me Up]

32. Are these masked people being RUN by our CIA or equivalent?

That's what I want to know.

[goodhue]

35. wow

[prayin4rain]

36. I thought Russia had them?

:shrug:

[trueblew]

39. I thought our Russian allies moved the stuff to Syria?? : )

[chimpy the poopthrower]

43. I wouldn't rule out that these guys are bluffing.

After all, it's easy to say you have something AFTER it turns up missing. Anyway, it doesn't change the fact that the explosives are gone and most assuredly in the wrong hands (whether these guys' or someone else's) and that they went missing AFTER we invaded and had a chance to secure them.

[BUSHOUT]

46. Obvious bluff.

This is NOT what we need right now. Terrorists need to SHUT THE HELL UP!

Maybe they WANT Bush to be re-elected? Furthers thier desire for world instability.

[nolabels]

53. Maybe if bushco would send them a nice E-mail on the Internets

They would come to reason. He could tell em that the last four years was all just a big skit, a kind of comedy act.

Surly they would listen :nopity:

P.S. After that rant, I feel safer already just knowing bushco is the appointed commander and chief

[noonriser]

49. Its current average rating is 3.81 with 796 vote(s). n/t

[Gavinicus]

55. This story is bull

Come on, people. Do you really rely on armed, masked thugs for the truth? These guys are making a ham-fisted attempt at notoriety. There is no confirmation that they have the explosives how they got them or--and this is the big lie--that American intelligence assisted them.

[nolabels]

56. You know that would make sense

Blame mostly only gets placed when the story pauses, if they could get a few clowns to go out make this kind of claim the story continues and people get off the hook.

It took a few days to manifest this story after the first one broke. So it's plausible but would be even worse it that's what they did and people somehow found out. A small chance, but after all we do remember 9/11 don't we......... I am put nothing past these folks

[Tight_rope]

58. NOW AIN'T THIS SOME FUCKED UP SHIT!

Boy Bush* sure "accomplished" that "mission".

[MADem]

61. Here they are PROUD AS PUNCH!!!

This screenshot is from the video where they announce gleefully where they got the stuff that is killing our kids, siblings, spouses and parents.

I really hate Republicans. They have no soul.