Edwards Statement on Giuliani Comments

[LiviaOlivia]

10/28/2004 1:29:00 PM
To: National Desk


DULUTH, Minn., Oct. 28 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Senator John Edwards issued the following statement today about George Bush's chief surrogates blaming the troops for missing explosives in Iraq:

"Today, George Bush sent his chief surrogate, Rudy Giuliani, out to defend the president's incompetence. And Giuliani blamed the troops. He said they didn't do their jobs. The Republicans couldn't be more wrong.

"Our men and women in uniform did their jobs. It's our commander-in-chief, George Bush, who didn't do his.

"If George Bush is going to have his friends out there blaming the troops, then he needs to back up his claims with evidence. Mr. President, show America the order that you issued for our troops to secure these dangerous explosives. Show us the order that your friends accuse our troops of ignoring.

"George Bush refuses to step up and take responsibility -- and now it's time for him to step aside."

This morning, Giuliani said, "The actual responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there. Did they search carefully enough? Didn't they search carefully enough?"

http://www.usnewswire.com/

[steve2470]

1. WOW ! The troops are going to be PISSED ! They should be !

[Racenut20]

22. Too late for absentee ballots from troops, but

Rise up families, and stateside troops. And the rest of us, lets archive this for 08. We already know he is running.

[PeaceProgProsp]

35. Not for Florida (and probably many other states)

Don't you remember 2000? They just needed to be postmarked by Election Day (but Joementum conceded that they wouldn't challenge them even if they had no postmarks).

[arcos]

39. That was a Joevember to remember....

:puke:

[goforit]

42. But, these guys are on the front lines and can walk away if need be!!!!

Give the phoney commander and chief the "bird" guys!!!

[freedom_to_read]

2. nail, meet coffin

... what a bunch of numbskulls.

[bif]

3. Fuck you Rudy!

What a tool!

[ignatius 2]

36. Amen, is his 15 minutes up yet?

n/t

[AIJ Alom]

4. Right on John ! Kerry blames the president ! Bush team blames the troops !

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[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Why does Giulani hate the troops so much? EOM

[maddezmom]

7. and Wes Clark's response

To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: Mark Kitchens of Kerry-Edwards 2004, 202-464-2800; Web: http://www.johnkerry.com

WASHINGTON, Oct. 28 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Gen. Wesley Clark issued the following statement today: "For President Bush to send Rudolph Giuliani out on television to say that the 'actual responsibility' for the failure to secure explosives lies with the troops is insulting and cowardly. "The President approved the mission and the priorities. Civilian leaders tell military leaders what to do. The military follows those orders and gets the job done. This was a failure of civilian leadership, first in not telling the troops to secure explosives and other dangerous materials, and second for not providing sufficient troops and sufficient equipment for troops to do the job. "President Bush sent our troops to war without sufficient body armor, without a sound plan and without sufficient forces to accomplish the mission. Our troops are performing a difficult mission with skill, bravery and determination. They deserve a commander in chief who supports them and understands that the buck stops in the Oval Office, not one who gets weak knees and shifts blame for his mistakes." ---

Paid for by Kerry-Edwards 2004, Inc.

[thecrow]

8. Wes, you rock!!!!!!!

Great reply to the cowards!!!
:yourock:

[milkyway]

9. Oh yeah, Wes! I'd love to see this on every network tonight.

[krkaufman]

11. God I love that man. Thanks, General Clark.

I grow ever more satisfied with the cash I threw at his campaign this Spring.

[Crunchy Frog]

30. I don't regret a single penny.

And I gave a lot.:)

[maddezmom]

32. best money I've spent in a long time, besides JK of course

;-)

[AP]

41. To the many DU'ers who gave through my sig link during the primaries:

You all were fab.

[Crunchy Frog]

43. Sorry, I didn't give to General Clark through your sig link,

but good job having it up anyway.:)

[Mister K]

16. Kick this up on Yahoo.....

news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usnw/20041028/pl_usnw/statement_from_general_wesley_clark_on_giuliani_comments165_xml

[steve2470]

25. Way to go, General ! nt

[jrthin]

37. Indeed! Great response, Wes.n/t

[misterphelps]

40. Can I say General Clark's was better?

I'm optimistic here, don't get me wrong.

He just hits a chord in me. I should've been Wes. They better reward that bastard.

[flygal]

45. THIS is MY man!!!!

Ever since I saw him on Letterman! I'm totally behind Kerry now but damn! Wes makes me hopeful!

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

10. Rudy needs a pie in the face on national TV n/t

[commander bunnypants]

12. AS ex-military

I dont know to puke or cry

DDQM

[MADem]

13. If you have a loved one in Iraq

...send them an email and tell them what "America's fucking MAYOR" said about them.

Rudy is a pig, lower than pond scum. HOW DARE HE suggest that the TROOPS are to blame! Christ, these assholes just DO NOT GET IT!

[Dhalgren]

14. I think that this just clinches the deal!

Landslide, meet Mr. Kerry...

[reprobate]

33. But they DO get it. Shift the blame to anyone but themselves.

To blame the troops is only showing how desperate they are. Everything seems to be falling of poor Georgie all at once. Couldn't happen to a more deserving moron.

[barb162]

15. sending our military in there UNDERMANNED and without

proper protection???? Then they blame the troops for not doing something?? Guiliani should be blaming Rummie, Bush, Wolfowicz, etal. BUT NOT THE TROOPS!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

17. Bush may loose the military vote after all!

Bush hates the troops!

Kerry loves the troops!

[reprobate]

34. Bush hates the troops because he is a coward and they are not.

[Dhalgren]

18. My gods! It just hit me!

The goddamned Pukes think that the "blame the troops" gambit worked with Abu Graib, it should also work with the explosives fuck-up! Don't you see, this is connected! The prison scandal? Blame the troops! It worked! Explosive scandal? Blame the troops! Why not? They are pigshit-blackholes!

[kskiska]

19. Giuliani's always been a loose cannon

No one's noticed, though, since he's been out of office because he's only had to speak in sound bites. The more exposure he gets, the worse he sounds. As mayor, he's made some horrendous gaffes.

[starroute]

21. Is it too much to hope . . .

. . . that this could kill any future political ambitions Giuliani may have as well?

[Crunchy Frog]

31. I can't imagine that a man

who tried to move his mistress into the house he was still sharing with his wife and children would get very far politically in the party of "family values".

I just don't see how he could have any realistic ambitions beyond NY. Certainly not president.

[bubbismith]

20. These guys are just pathetic blame shifters...nt

[Politicub]

23. This deserves a kick!

:kick:

[Daisey Mae]

24. Always looking for a scapegoat..... Now it is the troops

[steve2470]

26. kick nt

[AspenRose]

27. I've said it before and I'll say it again...I love this man

:yourock:

[jackofhearts]

28. Words for these cowards fail me

So I'll let Eminem say it for me:

Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us
Mosh pits outside the oval office
Someone's tryina tell us something,
Maybe this is god just sayin' we're responsible
For this monster, this coward,
That we have empowered

[Kellis]

29. Nobody is immune

from the pointing of fingers from the Bush admin.When it comes to getting him re-elected they'll throw anybody under the bus-even our troops.

[robertpaulsen]

38. Reminds me of a lyric by the punk group Propaghandi:

"Rudy...a message to you, Rudy...FUCK YOU RUDY!!"

[Tight_rope]

44. The blame game!

[Supersedeas]

46. cowardly * has a chief surrogate to blame the troops for him-some CoC

[Sinnerman]

47. Why isn't Kerry Edwards still hammering missing explosives