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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:02 PM
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Exit Polls from '02 election to be released
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14843-2003Sep2.html

"The missing-in-action 2002 national exit poll data has been given to the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research for public release after a panel of academic experts reviewed the survey and concluded the results were reliable."

"Despite the Election Day meltdown, the 2002 results have been eagerly sought by journalists and academics seeking to resolve unanswered questions about the election, including the impact of public worries about terrorism and Iraq on the vote."
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:03 PM
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1. Well, this oughta be interesting... N/M
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:10 PM
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2. What the...?? They couldn't get SAIC to volunteer??
Too busy whitewashing DIEbold I guess.
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zekeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:11 PM
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3. Does this mean that we get them back in '04?
It would be nice to have some check on the system. I suppose it really means that the mechanism they found to manipulate that data to match the manipulated polling data did in fact work so they can jsut steal it all this time out.

:mad:

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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:15 PM
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4. The exit polling data is contained in three Access databases...
just kidding! (I hope)
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:47 PM
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5. Wow. took them long enough
to scrub the information to their liking. Peeps if you're going to cheat please do so in a timely manner.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:49 PM
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6. Exit polling...
...is the primary tool used by observers to verify the veracity and fairness of elections in 3rd World countries. bush*/republicans could not afford to have exit polls in 2002.


The exit polls were exactly right in Florida in 2000....many more people voted for Al Gore(or thought they voted for Gore)than voted for the chimp.

The American citizens (Democrats & Republicans) should DEMAND the return of exit polling for ALL elections.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:55 PM
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7. Exit polls are fairly accurate.
Florida election returns are not.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:58 PM
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8. Because of Republican chicanery,
I'm sure the exit polling is more accurate than the elections!
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:04 PM
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9. I would never give exit polls the time of day.
Why would I vote in secret and then tell someone how I voted? Just me I guess.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:19 PM
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10. Because you have plausible deniabliy.
Assuming, of course, that you felt your vote necessitated secrecy. Otherwise you have no reason not to except out of laziness. Personally, I haven't participated in exit polling. I'm lazy. It's no biggie.
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:26 PM
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11. I just believe in the secrecy of the ballot box.
I have worked as an election official every election for over 12 years now. If someone wants to ask me questions during my 13 1/2 hour day, except work related, it must be either at lunch break or after the polls close. Either time the question had better be concerning what I want to eat.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:14 PM
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17. the only way to find out if the vote tally is accurate
is if people are courageous enough to indicate how they vote.

it may eventually be necessary to match every vote with every voter. if that is what it takes to save our democracy, i have no problem with it whatsoever.

i have never been ashamed of my vote. i will proudly announce it.

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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 09:34 PM
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22. I agree with you 100%.
If someone doesn't want to tell how they voted, that's fine with me, but aside from one time many many moons ago, I've never regretted nor been ashamed of how I cast my ballot. And I'm pretty political, so it isn't as if how I vote would surprise anyone....
:eyes:
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waywest Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:11 PM
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15. My opinion of exit polls did a 180
in November 2000. I previously would have answered (if asked, never was) "none of your business." Who would have thought votes would be stolen?
Now, I would look at the exit pollster as a "paper printout" of my ballot. We need all the insurance/verification we can get, these days.
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sally343434 Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 08:18 PM
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18. Exit polls are also secret
You fill in your vote on a slip of paper and slip it into the pollster's "ballot box". It's just as secret as inside the official polling booth.
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dofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 04:41 PM
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12. I was under the impression
that no exit polling was done in 02.
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:03 PM
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16. Oh, it was done
and then, in the middle of the day, when results for Dems were looking pretty favorable, suddenly the whole system "crashed" and they announced there would be no more exit polling data. I knew immediately we were in trouble.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:18 PM
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13. Interesting . . . FOX no le gusta the results and VNS melted down
"the survey findings were never made public after a massive computer collapse on election night prevented VNS from tabulating the results -- a failure that led directly to the demise of VNS."

Well, isn't that conveenient.

Also FOX (motto: wholly without merit) didn't want to take part in releasing the info . . . hmmm. Think it might not support the Republican rout? Take a guess.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 09:01 PM
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20. "massive computer collapse?"
I wonder if they ever figured out who sabotaged the computer(s)?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 05:22 PM
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14. Let's see what the numbers say about Georgia.
The whole damn state was stolen, outright.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 08:48 PM
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19. Who the hell has been sitting on (read: fudging) this data for the last
10 months?

Very interesting that FAUX and ABCIA tried to argue against releasing this data.
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dembones Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 09:28 PM
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21. Faux News blocking this
We need to match up the data with the coverage of Faux that night. It could be interesting to see what data was available when, and how Faux's coverage didn't match up with the data on hand. Perhaps Faux knew something everybody else didn't.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 09:51 PM
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23. But....but....
This is the same thing that happened in 2000 right? I remember how based on the exit data the networks called the election for Gore and then somehow the data was discredited by 'computer problems.' I personally think exit polling is the most important thing that needs to be done AFTER making sure we have verifiable ballots (paper trails).
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 10:03 PM
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24. Wonder if there will be enough data ....
... to correlate exit polls with what county had e-voting? Could either strengthen or weaken the case for e-voting accuracy.
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