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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:50 PM
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ABC Airs Videotape of Man Making Al Qaeda Threat
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - ABC News on Thursday broadcast a videotape it obtained last week of an English-speaking man who threatens bloody new al Qaeda attacks on the United States, but the network said U.S. intelligence officials could not authenticate the man's voice.



"U.S intelligence officials say while they still cannot authenticate the voice on the tape, it has all the trademarks of an al Qaeda production," ABC News said.

~snip~

ABC obtained the tape over the weekend in Pakistan, and its existence was revealed on Wednesday by Internet columnist Matt Drudge. ABC said on Wednesday that it would be "beyond irresponsible" to broadcast the tape without first authenticating it.


~snip~
A U.S. intelligence official told Reuters on Wednesday that the film appeared to have been released by al Qaeda's media organization and contains the logo of an al Qaeda production group. The official called the tape's content "classic al Qaeda propaganda" but said it appeared to have been edited.

more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=6&u=/nm/20041029/ts_nm/security_abcnews_dc

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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:52 PM
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1. It was Karl Rove.....
...making another desperate attempt to strike fear in the hearts of Americans.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:19 PM
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4. Karl Roves motto is place a gun to people's heads and watch them jump
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:28 PM
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7. kick
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:58 PM
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2. Actually, they only aired excerpts from the tape. By the time
they finished their commentary about how real it probably
wasn't, the video's actor's poor acting, ect, it came across
pretty lame. Ann Coulter is far scarier.

BTW, the Freepers don't even believe it, except they are
blaming the dems for the tape!

New Information Shows Bush Indecisive, Paranoid, Delusional

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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:34 PM
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13. It IS Ann Coulter
I recognized the eyes

RCM
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kranich Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:16 PM
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3. I tried
to watch this online but it would not play in Opera so I used Explorer. I went to the ABC site and my firewall immediately identified that 2 spyware prorams were trying to load, then about 6 popup ads opened and after all that it said I had to register for "premium service".

Friggin IE, Frigin ABC and friggin spyware.
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:36 PM
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14. Explorer = Ashcroft's Browser

Never ever ever ever use it. If content won't display in a Mozilla browser, it ain't worth seeing or hearing. Punish companies and sites that don't use web standards. Do not give them traffic.

Explorer is the George W. Bush of browsers.

RCM
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:11 PM
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5. must read...the spinners are in OT: Terrorist alludes to Bush voters
The English-speaking terrorists on a new al-Qaida videotape warning of a huge attack appears to be threatening the U.S. with consequences if President Bush is re-elected.

"People of America, that was the verdict, now for the sentencing: As participants and partners in the crimes of the regime, you too shall pay the price for the blood that has been spilled," the man says on the tape.

ABC News, which obtained the tape in Pakistan Friday, withheld the final 15 minutes of it from the CIA when it was submitted for analysis, the Drudge Report is reporting.

The newssite says a federal official claims the portion withheld mentioned President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

"You are guilty, guilty, guilty. You're as guilty as Bush and Cheney. You're as guilty as Rumsfeld and Ashcroft and Powell. ..," the man states in English with an American accent.

Drudge claims the FBI and CIA last night authenticated the tape, which includes a dire warning about a serious terror attack, but ABC News says officials have not authenticated it.
more :
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41163

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:14 PM
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so how does druge know it was held back??? cuz he already has a copy
these guys are getting desperate
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gavodotcom Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:21 PM
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11. THAT IS THE STORY
No reason for Drudge to know what's on the tape other than what ABC just put on his TV.

Has Drudge been in Pakistan?

He's got a CIA shill.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:26 PM
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12. no, sludge is rove's shill and he knows cuz he is and has been fed
the RNC, GOP, etc..............meme!
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:14 PM
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6. Gee...
"~snip~
A U.S. intelligence official told Reuters on Wednesday that the film appeared to have been released by al Qaeda's media organization and contains the logo of an al Qaeda production group. The official called the tape's content "classic al Qaeda propaganda" but said it appeared to have been edited. "

It's not like ANYBODY could fake those .... </sarcasm>

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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:32 PM
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8. "ABC obtained the tape over the weekend in Pakistan"
But I thought Pakistan liked bu**sh**!
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:32 PM
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9. Did they check Rove's voice
This was my favorite quote from the tape:

"You're as guilty as Bush and Cheney. You're as guilty as Rumsfeld and Ashcroft and Powell. ..," the man states in fluent English with an American accent.

News reports tonight say that the CIA was not able to find a match for the voice on the tape among the voices they have collected of Al Queda. With electronic evesdropping, I am sure the CIA has a very large collection.

Did they check Rove's voice? I bet Rove was mad as hell that ABC didn't release it sooner.

For anyone who did not read "Bush's Brain" or seen the movie, here's a little bit of history. Karl Rove was running the re-election campaign for a Texas Governor. The polls were turning against Rove's candidate, and he was expected to look really bad in a debate against his challenger. However, the newspaper headlines paid little attention to the debate. Instead, the headlines were: Listening device found in Governor's campaign office. Rove had called a long-time buddy in the FBI to show him the evesdropping bug Rove had found in his own office. After the election, it was found that the bug had only be turned on for 15 minutes.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:59 AM
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21. "Acid is cool."
Off the pigs!

This is about as lame as a 60s narc wearing a Beatle wig.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:03 PM
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10. Amen to all those who thought this was a Rove trick.
The guy sounds like he's from the East Coast with a slightly (dare I say it?) yiddish inflected accent.

An American wouldn't talk this way ("America is guilty, guilty, guilty") unless he was reading a script written by a non-native speaker and not even a particularly good script at that.

If you yelled "salam alekum" at this guy, he'd say "what?"

It looked really phony to me . . .
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Dukakis88 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 11:39 PM
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15. It's the hacker "Lord Viper Scorpion" from The Daily Show...
...talking from his mother's basement.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:26 AM
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16. LOL
This is the scary guy? Looks like a frat prank by a Young Republican. He wears his stuff like a Halloween costume, shows his eyes and eyeglasses(Boy he must really be in hiding now!)

This is truly pathetic beyond words.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 12:36 AM
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17. Seriously, who thinks this is real?
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 12:37 AM by gatorboy
I mean, look at it! It looks like they went down to the local K-Mart photo booth and requested the Deep Blue Backdrop.
Is al Qaeda reallllly that worried about the lighting when they film these things?

Not to mention, when you're living in caves, are these Deep Blue Backdrops really that available?
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:10 AM
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18. Tape may mention Maher
Variety.com
Posted: Thurs., Oct. 28, 2004, 7:01pm PT

Tape may mention Maher
'World' news skein shows clip of pundit
By PAMELA MCCLINTOCK


NEW YORK -- Did a new terrorist videotape mention controversial pundit Bill Maher by name? Whether it did or not, ABC News on Thursday night used a fleeting clip of Maher in its report on the tape while noting that the veiled man on the tape talks about American television shows. Maher lost his latenight show on ABC after pronouncing that the 9/11 terrorists were anything but cowards. He's now on HBO.

<snip>

Man on the tape -- warning of another massive terrorist attack in the U.S. -- purports to be a member of Al Qaeda, identifies himself as American and speaks almost perfect English. The portion of the tape referring U.S. television shows wasn't played on "World." Instead, ABC News correspondent Brian Ross mentioned it in narration as a brief clip of Maher was shown. An ABC News rep couldn't immediately answer Thursday night whether Maher was mentioned by the terrorist, or whether his image was used by the news org in a generic way, and if so, why.

Alphabet's news division acquired the tape from a source in Pakistan over the weekend, paying $500 in transportation costs. ABC delayed airing any part of the tape after both the news org and the CIA were unable to confirm its authenticity. The CIA ultimately told ABC that while it still couldn't authenticate it, the tape appears to bear Al Qaeda's markings.

Some news staffers believe the Bush administration leaked the tape's existence earlier in the week as a way to put pressure on the Alphabet to air it in the final days before the election. Bush has made terrorism a chief campaign issue, saying the country won't be safe with John Kerry in the White House.


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117912676?categoryid=14&cs=1
subscription


note: Alphabet=ABC
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:50 AM
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19. I saw it late tonight on TV and first thing that came to mind is
it's Rove! Pretty terrible to actually think that that man would do something like this. But I wouldn't put it past him at all. Or that he'd hire someone to do it. Nah, they'd talk. It's him. :evilgrin:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:03 AM
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20. MDW (Masses of Destructive Weapons) excuses not working
so it's time to bring out the BOOGA-BOOGA

meanwhile - take the poll and guess what the weekend talking head show topic...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2555008
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:48 AM
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22. and they are burying KTSP
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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:53 AM
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23. It's either Dick Cheney from an "undisclosed location"
or Karen Hughes after swallowing some helium to disguise her otherwise manly voice.........
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:09 AM
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24. It came from the bulge on *'s back!
It lives!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:18 AM
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25. I THOUGHT there was something familiar about that guy:
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:18 AM
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26. The eyes look like Grover Norquist's
But I'm not his mamma.
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ogminlo Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:03 AM
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29. Good point!
Look at the similarities! Note the shape of the eyes and glasses!





It's Grover all right!
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:51 AM
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27. I saw a clip last night
I lmao at it. It was a truly pathetic thing to watch.
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ogminlo Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:58 AM
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28. This is the October Surprise!!
This is al they got? Come on, I was expecting at least bin Laden trotted out of his hole. Pathetic. Even more pathetic is how all the news outlets (even overseas) are reporting this as news. The damn thing is such an obvious fake I can't contain my rage!

:grr:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:04 AM
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30. Heard it last nite. Sounds like
Ray Romano.

:shrug:

dp
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