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lockdown Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:15 PM
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BBC: Bin Laden tape to be broadcast at 20:00 GMT
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 02:53 PM by lockdown
Just on BBC, al-Jazeera to broadcast bin-Laden tape in 45 minutes, in which he addresses the American people and gives the reasons for 911!

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041029/ts_nm/security_qaeda_binladen_dc_2

Edit to add link and fix time..
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:16 PM
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1. Will Osama have a Kerry Edwards sticker wrapped around his turbin?
<sarcasm>
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:18 PM
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5. He might shave his head in honor of his good friend Dick.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:17 PM
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2. Bet he tells us
it was because he hates our freedom.
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samwisefoxburr Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:17 PM
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3. Really?...
...The reasons for 9/11? This could get interesting.
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lockdown Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:19 PM
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9. That's what they said
Fat Osama redux? They've got to be fucking joking!
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:17 PM
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4. LOL
Will he say "I know you'll be voting for Kerry because you're SKEERED of me."
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:18 PM
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6. Jeez haven't we heard enough from the Bush administration for the day.
I guess Sleeza Rice didn't help him enough so he is bringing out the big guns to scare all the wittle people.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:18 PM
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7. is this the OCTOBER surprise????
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:25 PM
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17. Jazeera TV Says to Air Bin Laden Video Tape: link
wonder if they're just going to re-play a tape from 3 yrs ago :shrug:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:18 PM
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8. um....didn't "he" give us those reasons like 3years ago?
:shrug:
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NanBo Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:20 PM
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10. this is disconcerting
why now?
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:20 PM
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11. Is the same guy who did the 'terrorist' tape yesterday
playing the part of Osama? /sarcasm.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:21 PM
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12. He'd already given his reasons.
But, of course, the Bush Administration ignored those and made up that whole absurd notion of "freedom hating" terrorists as the only reason for 9/11. Maybe he wants to set the record straight?

Jesus Fucking Christ! I just realized what I typed. I literally have to listen to a broadcast by a despicable man that attacked and killed 3,000 of my countrymen, because I am unable to trust my own President. If I wake up tomorrow, and it's still 1999. . . I'd believe this has all been a nightmare. In a heartbeat.
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:32 PM
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29. You and me both..
Hey and how long has it been since there has been a video tape of OBL?
Is it him or?? memorex?

Do they still have their recording studio set up in Afghanistan?
Where is this audio/visual production studio.. why haven't we at least friggin infiltrated AlJazeera so we can find out how they are getting these tapes to them.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:46 PM
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46. "...a despicable man that attacked and killed 3,000 of my countrymen..."
Do you know something no one else does?

When was it proven that OBL did 9/11? I have read the net almost everyday since September 11, 2001 and I have seen no evidence that he did.

Links?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #46
61. Lynch mobs have never needed evidence.
:puke:
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:11 PM
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64. Bin Laden DID take credit for it. I believe he was involved.
But since everything is being supressed, I don't know who else was involved. I do believe that more happened on 9/11, both in NYC and in DC, than has been admitted.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:40 PM
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71. Was that the Fat or the Skinny Osama
on the bogus tape that you are referring to?

Again, links?
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:07 PM
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75. It was on one of the tapes following 9/11.
He says the attacks went much better than he had anticipated. Although on today's tape, he flat out admits it.

"God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind."

Reference:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20041029/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bin_laden_tape
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Greyhawk Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:44 PM
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77. Look...
On the tape he (OBL) admits it. We don't need to deny that to get rid of *
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:22 PM
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13. But I thought Saddam did 9/11....
:eyes:

I think it's about time to show those "I'm not concerned about him-he's been marginalized" tapes of *!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:23 PM
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14. "Somewhere or other he was still alive and hatching his conspiracies"
"The next moment a hideous, grinding speech, as of some monstrous machine running without oil, burst from the big telescreen at the end of the room. It was a noise that set one's teeth on edge and bristled the hair at the back of one's neck. The Hate had started.

"As usual, the face of Emmanuel Goldstein, the Enemy of the People, had flashed on to the screen. There were hisses here and there among the audience. The little sandy-haired woman gave a squeak of mingled fear and disgust. Goldstein was the renegade and backslider who once, long ago (how long ago, nobody quite remembered), had been one of the leading figures of the Party, almost on a level with Big Brother himself, and then had engaged in counter-revolutionary activities, had been condemned to death, and had mysteriously escaped and disappeared. The programmes of the Two Minutes Hate varied from day to day, but there was none in which Goldstein was not the principal figure. He was the primal traitor, the earliest defiler of the Party's purity. All subsequent crimes against the Party, all treacheries, acts of sabotage, heresies, deviations, sprang directly out of his teaching. Somewhere or other he was still alive and hatching his conspiracies: perhaps somewhere beyond the sea, under the protection of his foreign paymasters, perhaps even -- so it was occasionally rumoured -- in some hiding-place in Oceania itself."
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:00 PM
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57. nail on the head. n/t
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doodlebugs4kerry Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:24 PM
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15. Broadcast?
How?
TV?
Radio?
Internet?
Got link?


:kick: Bush out!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:26 PM
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19. link
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doodlebugs4kerry Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:28 PM
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21. thanks for the link ....
DUBAI (Reuters) - Arab satellite television Al Jazeera said on Friday it would broadcast a video tape from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) addressing the American people.

It said the tape, to be aired at 4 p.m. EDT, would discuss the reasons behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States and their repercussions. It gave no further details.
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lockdown Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:32 PM
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28. Video tape
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 02:33 PM by lockdown
Now saying AFP and Reuters have picked up the story, can't find a link yet.

On edit: thanks for the link maddezmom
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:35 PM
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33. Another link
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:35 PM
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34. Another link
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:42 PM
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42. fox 20 minutes is any other network covering
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:25 PM
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16. But I thought Saddam did 9/11....
:eyes:

I think it's about time to show those "I'm not concerned about him-he's been marginalized" tapes of *!
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #16
74. Well, looks like we got the wrong man, huh Bush?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:26 PM
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18. here's a still shot:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. I can't help but think that's Harold Ramis in disguise.
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neomonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:26 PM
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20. Hahahahahaha
I'm reminded of Eminem's video, the scene where bin Laden is speaking on a television screen and then it turns out his image is really a cardboard cutout, and as if falls off the screen, Karl Rove is exposed in the background! LOL
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:29 PM
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24. LOL...like this sccenario hasn't been predicted a million times on DU
remember when terror alerts go up, so does the * approval. :eyes:
Yesterday's tape didn't work, the Pentagon spinzone was a nightmare, we at the gates of Fallujah for "shock and awe"....only thing left in rove's playbook is an appearance from bin Laden. :shrug:
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:29 PM
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23. Good...
I hope it airs.

It just proves once again that Bush never finished the job in Afghanistan and let Osama escape.
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TheKingfish Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:30 PM
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25. When is 21:00 GMT ? n/t
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NanBo Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:34 PM
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31. 4pm eastern eom
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dqueue Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:38 PM
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38. 5pm EST, methinks...
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:36 PM
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35. 4pm est
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dqueue Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:46 PM
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47. I really suggest it's 5pm...
GMT site

It currently shows:
Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) Friday, 29 October 2004 19:45:35
Your Local Time Friday, 29 October 2004 15:45:35

Thus, Eastern is GMT-4, at this point...

2100-400=1700 == 5pm.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #47
51. i thought it was too from tracking hurricanes on NOAH
but fox said it will air at 4 pm
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lockdown Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. My mistake, it's at 20:00 GMT... 4pm Eastern
Sorry, forgot about British Summertime..
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dqueue Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:57 PM
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55. heheh... 2000 is 4pm EST...
I knew my math skills weren't that far off. *grins*

Thanks for clarifying the GMT time.
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NanBo Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #35
56. ok yes you're right, it's 5 but it's 4
if you follow me :think:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:31 PM
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26. I'm skeptical. "We hate you for your freedom, yankee dogs!" just ain't
gonna wash.

This should be real interesting.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #26
41. It's not meant to wash with YOU. And it will wash quite nicely with

the voting mainstream who count the 100K dead Iraqis as "Good News About Iraq!"
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:31 PM
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27. Gotta wonder
If it's a threatening tape, you really do have to wonder if it could backfire. ALl this talk about the security moms (which could be a myth) -- I think it could send them running wildly from Bush to Kerry. I know some pundits suggest voters could react by saying, "F-You, bin laden. If you try to impact my vote, I'll spite you by voting for Bush!" are already in Bush's corner. And although it may be a stereotype, I tend to think any security moms - if they exist - would switch sides in a flash. Because they're all about protecting their kids, if we believe the media. Which means they're weak supporters of whoever they support. Which leads me to think any new threat will send them packing.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:44 PM
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45. It will backfire
Osama being free does not make anyone safer, and he's free because Bush failed in his duty to capture or kill him.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:32 PM
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30. Who cares what the "reasons" are?
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 02:34 PM by Kimber Scott
There is no reason that would justify the taking of innocent life. Period.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:35 PM
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32. Interesting timing,...as usual. n/t
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:36 PM
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36. It'll be so nice to see the happy, fat Osama, once again.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:36 PM
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37. Bin Laden has a Bush/Cheney 04 sign in front of his cave
I guess they couldn't get Curt Shilling.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:38 PM
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39. Which one will it be this time?
Skinny or fat :shrug:,

Where can we place our bets?
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dqueue Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:41 PM
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40. Are there any webcast links?
Will this be webcast? Anyone know? Al Jazeera's site hasn't moved this from "Breaking News"... thus, there's no link available yet.

Please post any possible webcast links if you find them. I would prefer to see this in entirety.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:43 PM
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43. Will his family members that Bush allowed to fly out of the US on 9/13
be around him eating Turkey?
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:43 PM
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44. time for cheney to head for the cave
i knew they find a way to keep him out of the halliburton scandal!
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #44
53. That's really a scoop
Dick and Osama trading places, who would of thunk it.


http://www.dbr.nu/noin/betaZ.php?city=&date=20021006&keyword=
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:46 PM
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48. What if he says 9/11 happened
Because Bushco paid him a lot of money to ensure his election in 2004?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:47 PM
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49. the only thing I'm concerned about is Franks discussion on Martial Law
before the election. Does anyone have a link??
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #49
67. Tommy Franks in Cigar Aficionado, Nov-Dec. 2003
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Profiles/People_Profile/0,2540,164,00.html

Can't find a free link anymore.

Here's the link to Information Clearing House:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5267.htm

...Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

...But Franks’ scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government.

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:28 PM
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68. thanks
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:48 PM
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50. But..But..Bin Laden is DEAD
He's ash under a pile of rocks in Tora Bora!
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:57 PM
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54. "Yoohoo! America! You invaded the wrong country!"
"Hellloooooo McFly! I'm still alive."
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:01 PM
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58. Freepers cheer the return of bin Laden.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1261781/posts#comment?q=1

To: Principled
This is terrific news for the President.
5 posted on 10/29/2004 12:44:03 PM PDT by hawaiian

To: Portrait of a Lady

Osama,

Thank you for reminding the American people of exactly why we want George Bush as our leader!!!

20 posted on 10/29/2004 12:46:30 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus

To: hawaiian

Well yes, that is terrific.

62 posted on 10/29/2004 12:50:25 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:02 PM
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59. But I thoughts he was done marginalized?
Will freepers make up their damned minds?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:04 PM
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60. Those people are completely insane
just exactly how is this GOOD for shrub?
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kymar57 Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #60
70. I ask the same question BH. Why
Why is this a good thing for shrub? Unless he endorses JK or something how do the thieves in DC profit from it?
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Insomnicole Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:04 PM
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62. Are these people high?
"Thank you for reminding the American people of exactly why we want George Bush as our leader!!!"

Why would we want that? So he can let Bin Laden run around for another four years? God, people -- use your brains for once!

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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:07 PM
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63. Bin Laden Tape
He will say 911 happened because of those liberal Democrats and Clinton's zipper problem.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:14 PM
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65. Watching FOX
Some asshat from the Dole campaign says this is GOOD for Bush?!? WTF?!?! Are people really that stupid?
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found object Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:26 PM
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66. "They already have him on ice"
If this is true then the video will be the result of part negotiation, part coercion. Should look obvious and will most likely be a plus for the emporor.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:38 PM
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69. Al Jazeera English saying tape will be viewable soon...
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 03:38 PM by tlcandie
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

with English captioning, btw.
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:49 PM
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72. Add to this topic of Kerry quotes on Bin Laden:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:57 PM
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73. Randi: "Compliments W's speech: "remember 911?" and changes
subject from explosives
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:09 PM
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76. I still believe...
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 04:10 PM by Dangerman
bin Laden AND Bush were responsible for 9/11. Bush should have foiled bin Laden's plan at the first place, but noooooo! He is nothing more than a stooge for PNAC! That makes Bush as evil as bin Laden!
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