Bin Laden Tape Could Help Bush - Analysts

[NewYorkerfromMass]

So where's the alternate headline for Kerry?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=7&u=/nm/campaign_binladen_dc

[BayStateBoy]

1. OBL Tape Endorses Bush as Weak on Terrorism

who gave aid to the enemy.

But a damn good reader of children's books.

[olddem43]

6. Yeah, the fact that OBL is still at large really helps the idiot -

that should have had him killed within 6 months. This is an even bigger failure than 9/11 because there is no valid excuse for OBL to still be breathing, much less thumbing his nose at Bush and the rest of us. If anyone else were president, OBL would be long dead. I sure hope the sheeple see it that way.

[Sequoia]

8. In that case it's Karl Rove in his Osama Halloween costume.

What a crappy spin.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

2. Oh, puh-leaze

Anyone who watches that tape and has a better impression of * afterwards, has probably been labotimized. He mentions Kerry once (that I noticed) and the rest of the time condemns shrub and everything he has done.

[BayStateBoy]

4. OBL Taunts America for having such a Turd in Power

No way does this benefit Bush.

[spotbird]

28. America is safer.

We invaded Iraq and that made us safer.

[RobinA]

47. Sooooo....

By this reasoning Mr. Undecided Voter looks at this tape and says, "Hey, Osama hates Bush, that means Bush must be REALLY bad, I'll just go vote for Kerry."

I agree with the thinking that this helps Bush. It reminds Mr. Undecided that Osama is still out there and could be moments away from releasing a suitcase nuke in Manhattan. Better vote Bush, who we KNOW will go bomb some Arabs in retaliation, unlike that French girly-man, Kerry.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

52. It should also remind Mr Undecided

That Bush had Bin Laden cornered then took his eyes off the prize and invaded Iraq

[Mike Niendorff]

15. "and the rest of the time condemsn shrub and everything he has done."

Which is, of course, precisely the point : OBL puts out a videotape *four days before the U.S. election* on which he (1) admits attacking the U.S., (2) reminds Americans to vote ("your security is in your hands"), and then (3) goes into a rant about why Bush is bad (stealing directly from many of Bush's legitimate domestic critics, which effectively turns their *legitimate* complaints into "Osama said that!" political kryptonite). How this could *not* be seen as a blatant ploy to push the election in Bush's direction is a mystery to me.


MDN

[ElectroPrincess]

3. They're desperate ...

Move On should cut a commercial of * claiming that he didn't spend time worrying about Bin Laden. People better wake up, * won't keep us safe, he hasn't the intelligence nor motivation to enhance anything but his and his corporate friends' pocketbooks.

[Jon8503]

5. Osamba Wants Bush Reelected

Why would'nt he want Bush reselected? Bush is totally ignorant of any history, any understanding of world affairs, any understanding of the Muslim religion or culture.

This would be the best thing to happen to Osamba if Bush was reselected or elected for once by the people.

No world support for Bush. Probably total world support for Kerry plus support for Kerry to help end the Iraq debacle.

That is who Osamba is hoping gets into the White House and he doesn't care if he goes back in by the Supreme Court.

I just hope the American People can see it.

[BayStateBoy]

7. Reuters: Bin Laden Condemns Bush

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20041029/ts_nm/security_binladen_dc



Bush gave aid to the enemy by sitting with children instead of doing his job properly

[maddezmom]

10. thanks for the link

[Democat]

9. This is an editorial supporting Bush

Stupid fucking Reuters whoring for Bush.

[melody]

57. Exactly

Where in the hell did "Bin Laden, taunting the man who has vowed to take him "dead or alive" for the past three years" come from? Bush said he doesn't CARE!

Do these morons realize that they are fanning the flames of Civil War in their own country? Or do they think they can hide behind their desks?

[MADem]

11. If the press goes that way, it tells us what we already know

The corporations, which own the media outlets, control the White House. If that is the only spin we see, we'll know that they prefer an easily controlled retard propped up in that office. And that is ALL it means.

I would like to be so bold as to make an activist suggestion. If you see an article or news report that suggests this tape will somehow benefit the weecowboy, take a minute to fire off an email and vehemently disagree. Tell the author of the piece that it is a sad goddamn day in America when the guy who GOT AWAY benefits the IDIOT WHO LET HIM GET AWAY.

The old timers here are better with the media lists than I am, but I do strongly urge everyone to spend five or ten minutes giving these assholes some feedback.

I'm outraged at the suggestion that this makes 'smokim outta there holes' 'dead or alive' ...er 'not a priority' stumblebum a more viable option. It's egregious!!

[Goldmund]

12. I'm afraid they may be right -- Osama has given his buddy a nice gift

Or at least that was his intention.

Maybe I underestimate the American people, and maybe both these and Osama's analysts may be wrong. Maybe the American people will rise above the idiocy. But we shall see.

[RobinA]

48. I Agree

I don't know what Osama's intention was, since they are about as good at understanding us as we are at understanding them, but this is a freeby for Bush. "Hey, Osama hates me, I must be doing something right."

[gavodotcom]

13. It fits their pre-conceived notion that the terrorism issue helps Bush.

Much the same way they seem to think that a terrorist attack would "help" Bush. Because America isn't Spain, I guess?

If one believes the Bush line that Kerry is somehow 'soft' on terrorism, that's one thing. Bush is obviously shoving that down everyone's throats, which is truly the only reason he's even competitive in this election.

However, I honestly don't see how reminding America that Osama's still happy and healthy helps make the case that Bush's repsonse to terrorism has been the correct approach.

My hope is that the debate will shift to; "Why is Osama still alive?" If this shift happens, we win this issue.

[tommyleef]

14. The Kerry Headline is Bush Failed on 9/11 Vow

The headline is simple-- Bush Failed to Track Down 9/11 Attackers. Kerry's initial comments on the tape were much more 'Presidential' than the irritated and eye batting expression and response of Bush.

[0007]

16. I don't get how this can help junior one bit!

junior has been put down big time. Only a junior fan could see this is another form of light, whatever that may be!

"It appeared to him (Bush) that a little girl's talk about her goat and its butting was more important than the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers. That gave us three times the required time to carry out the operations, thank God," he said."

[Cha]

17. Well, this analyist says NO it won't

help bush. bush blew it! And this is an ungodly reminder!

Fuck bush!

[DeadManInc]

18. Tape

This tape just restates what we already know, shrub was caught spanking the monkey instead of protecting our country. I fail to see how this could help dumb/dumber.

[guinness4strength]

19. Osama endorsed Kerry

and said: stop helping Israel and we won't kill more civilians

we should send Israel a couple f-16s every time someone uses terror to affect anti-semetic political change

[Nikepallas]

20. From what I understand

OBL said Kerry couldn't protect US either. If anything it seems he has placed doubt in the minds of both candidates supporters

[Rochambeau]

21. Uhmm I smell a nice tomb stone coming....

with something written on it, something that is finishing with this word "...poorly" :p

[cubsfan forever]

59. Yes, there is the distinct fishy odor

of SOMETHING in here.And it's emanating from some gop talking points.

Professor 2

[w4rma]

23. Osama better hope for Bush. Bush says Osama isn't a priority

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Kerry says he'll hunt Osama down.

[Emboldened Chimp]

24. Kerry will be a much better friend to Israel than *

I don't think OBL would support Kerry...

[snippy]

25. Only the ignorant and misinformed would think that. And they vote Bush

precisely because they are so ignorant and misinformed. We need a president who wants bin Laden dead or caught.

[RoyGBiv]

55. Sniff, sniff ...

Ummm, what's the odor?

Karl, is that you!?!?!?!?

[grumpy old fart]

22. OBL is right

provocative title, I know, but he's right in the sense that Bush's continuation, and acceleration, of the same policies of Empire, violence and arrogance we've followed for decades has only fueled the fire underlying the terrorists rage. Terrorism is wrong, but we need to get at the root causes of such extremism. Perpetual war solves nothing, but that is the bankrupt plan of the Chimp cabal, which cares not a whit about solving anything. They LOVE war.

[liveoaktx]

26. Uh... only ONE analyst thinks that, the others quoted do NOT

so why is the headline slanted that way?

[suegeo]

27. Joel Goldstein is a boob

"My visceral reaction is that it could hurt Kerry. I don't think the American people will take kindly to Osama bin Laden stepping into our election," said St. Louis University political scientist Joel Goldstein.

"It's an unfortunate 11th hour diversion but it reminds people of the terrorist threat and that's Bush's strong point," Goldstein said.

THE TERRORIST THREAT IS BUSH'S STRONG POINT? WTF color is the sky in Mr. Goldsteins world? In Sept. 01 there are 3000 people dead on Jr's watch, the pentagon is up in flames, and millions of New Yorkers are running through the streets for their lives, while buildings and body parts rain down on them.

The terrorists threat is Bush's strong point. That sentiment about the junta always just floors me.

[Gyre]

29. more BLATHER!!!

Pullleeezzzzzzzz! Can journalists get any more inane? Note the "..Could.." part of the heading. Pure tripe posing as pseudo-tripe speculation. zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Gyre

[olddad56]

30. for what it is worth, here is my take on this..

Since we live in the twilight zone, Imagine if you will ....
That Bin Laden is actually an operative of the corporate fascist regime that currently rules our once great nation. He was originally trained by the CIA. His family has prospered greatly from this war as has the Bush family, as has Cheney. Chaos in the middle east is money in the bank and power for the chosen few. Having George's man Osama come out with any message this close to election is a boost for the dumb man. If will inflame every American who still believes 911 was legit. It will help solidify Bush's base. It might even scare a few people away from voting for Kerry.

My personal opinion. Kerry will win the popular vote by a large margin and lose the electoral vote because of shenanigans in the battleground states. Lawsuits will follow and eventually George will retain his crown. It will be like a Don King fight.

[Bo]

56. I'm beginning to believe your theory

It really makes perfect sense

[Geek_Girl]

31. Will see how this plays out in the Media

If the Media plays by White House Rules then this is clearly a gift to Bush. But if we start seeing clips of what Bush said about not giving Bin Laden much thought (which I doubt will happen) then this could be the nail in his coffin. Whatever the outcome you have to remember that this killed the explosives story and now turns it back to 9/11 and the war on terror which is clearly Bush's strength according to the polls.

[FreakinDJ]

32. The only thing Osama didn't say was

Na na na na na you can't cath me.......................


Ali ali oxen free...............

The tape proves Bush is such a loser. Osama is staying at the Islamabad Hilton enjoying the good life.

Now how can this tape play well for Bush. It just proves every thing JK is saying

[olddad56]

33. He is probably hiding on the ranch in Crawford Texas.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

34. Osama NOT Caught Because Bush* Sidetracked to Iraq!

[GalleryGod]

35. PRETTY FRIGGIN' DEPRESSING!

:nuke: :hi:

[Beetwasher]

36. Many Media Whores Will Get There Comeuppance OVER THIS TAPE

I guarantee you people are reading this shit and going :wtf:

Kerry anticipated something like this. He's been harping for weeks about Chimpy letting OBL go and now here's evidence of that failure. People will have his criticisms in mind when hearing about this and know he was right.

People are going to hold Chimpy accountable and ask themselves why media whores are telling them they should think differently. A big reckoning is coming.

[susanna]

50. God, I hope so.

I hope they remember his admonitions.

I just saw on Hardball (repeat) that Kerry was NEVER informed of the existence of the tape during today's stump speeches, but Bush knew about it since early this morning.

Easy to take the high road when you know where it is...

edited for typo

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

37. Boy, that Osama has some sense of timing, don't he?

For being in hiding and all, he sure shows up right at the moment * needs him.

Hmmmmmmm.

[shaz]

38. Hurts bush, Helps republicans

Kerry will win, but after the election the Republicans will say bush lost because the Americans caved to OBL, not because he was the worst president in American history. That gets them off the hook for supporting bush.

Spain all over again. They lost 'cuz they lied about who attacked, but the right wing radio nuts say they lost 'cuz the Spanish caved to terrorist.

[despairing optimist]

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[pinniped]

40. Well if that's the case then the POS * people made it.

Come to think of it, that OBL actor is the same guy as the one on the tape found in AFG a couple years ago.

[eridani]

53. Not a chance

The Afghanistan video had a guy with very chubby cheeks, and it was pretty amateurish. The current video looks much more like the videos OBL used to send out.

[The Backlash Cometh]

41. bin Laden looked good. Too good. I wouldn't be surprised if

some of the members of his family in Saudi Arabia are sending money. So how is voting for a president who is buddy, buddy with Ossama's family going to be a smart thing to do?

[Geek_Girl]

43. Most people don't know that

or don't want to believe The Bush's and the Bin Laddens are friends. It's something main stream media won't even touch.

[leQ]

42. are we being set up again?

now that he's made himself 'known' and in the spotlight again, just suppose the grand effect it would have if he suddenly somehow got busted on sunday.

[Geek_Girl]

44. Honestly I would Jump for Joy

If Bin Laden got busted. But today my worst fear has come closer to being a reality and that is there may be a partnership of some sort between this mass murderer and the white house.

:tinfoilhat:

[PATRICK]

45. Bush didn't look happy

He practically had one foot on the plane to Nebraska. His little speech reminded me of his swift plane flight on 9/11.

Or too many prunes.

[Carolab]

46. I don't trust this thing

"Any state that does not mess with our security has naturally guaranteed its own security."

Osama says "mess with"? Is that Muslim slang?

Do these guys talk that way?

This tape stinks. I don't believe that the "U.S. tried to stop it". Disinformation. If they wanted to stop it, they would have. I think they cooked it up as a possible way to help Shrub.

[mom cat]

49. This story has bombded in the ratings..Add more weights.

[The Magistrate]

51. Mere Moonshine, That View

All this does is re-emphasize the failures of the criminals of the '00 Coup in prosecuting the war against the Islamic fundamentalist radicals who atacked our country. It gives new edge and further sustains the line that the criminals missed a golden opportunity to catch this wretch by "outsourcing" the job at Tora Bora, and to the colossal distraction from this vital effort the invasion of Iraq reoresents. It drives home to the people that for all the bluster of the Andover cheerleader, all his "Dead or alive" and "We'll smoke 'em out" and his "You can run but you can't hide" posturings, the fact is that Bin Ladin has indeed evaded the might of the United States, as this has been directed by this criminally incompetent administration, and is still in operation and doing quite well for himself. It is an excellent and sovereign reminder of the failures of this administration in what most people consider a vital matter, and gives the lie entirely to the Andover cheerleader's pretense that he is up to the job of protecting the nation. For that, better to turn to someone who has actually closed with an armed enemy, and shot him dead....

"If you repeat a lie often enough, you are a Republican."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Bo]

54. He pisses in a shrub

[Carolab]

58. I just sent a mass e-mail to the media

about how this is so NOT helping Bush except for the spin the GD media is putting on it. He LAMBASTED BUSH and Poppy, for chrissake!